Hey guys, need your opinion and advise here,

i start using LP (china) since 2009. feel comfortable to me since i play more octave, simple muting, normal power chords (emo, punk, rock music). on 2013, got LP Studio for my metalcore band, play major breakdown all time, simple riff, octave, still OK to me, but recently, i want to try more on riffing, crazy palm muting, technical breakdown, drop tuning but i finds the sharp edge where you have to lay your right arm extremely uncomfortable. Now i start wonder am i not suite that type of guitar? or my technique is so wrong? or LP is not right for that kind of playing? This problem sometimes make me like almost give up to keep practising.

However, now i start thinking to try a thin neck guitar (i have such a normal finger, not long nor short) such an Ibanez or LTD, or other that u can recommend to me. I know every person has their own opinion and might not suite me. No worries, i need you suggest to me and i try to find it on local stores and test it. Im not much know guitar model for Ibanez or else.

(prefer fix bridge)

Kindly, please share your advise.






my previous post on Stompboxes/Distortion and Schecter vs Ibanez

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2410998&hl=
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2212057/+20

This post has been edited by ecitenoid: Nov 12 2014, 02:35 PM

i dont understand, are you putting your palm on the bridge? cause by right you are not supposed to.you just put near only, unless the strings are cutting you la.

budget, frankly tho, fixed bridge i would recommend a schecter or ltd eclipse. the former would be a super strat but wont be thin neck and the latter just a hotter lp

also if I'm not mistaken recent LPs do have thin necks, they are not ibanez thin la but on average most guitars are not ibanez thin

haha, i also not too sure. that is why i wonder if my technique is wrong or what. but frankly speak, i still need to youtube more and learn. LoL. budget around rm3k and below. but just now youtube the LTD EC-1000 looks pretty thin. any comment?

Suggest for you to have a try on any Ibanez Prestige (used). ESP Japan are hard to come by and far better than Prestiges (provided its from Kiso) and have medium thin necks, super comfy.

Like myself, owning guitars with various necks - it limits me from playing all styles in one guitar

1. Not to comfortable slamming heavy riffs on a thin neck, if equipped with heavy strings then its good to go
2. Not to comfortable running leads on a 'baseball bat' neck
3. The guitar having medium neck is all good though lol

I'll have one for each style

can help explain this part a bit... i hv a hard time understanding that..

Most probably the body part or the contour ?
Stay away from the RG's and flat tops then

Ltd's are ok, but then they dont really have thin necks, comfy but not thin. then again an EC is just a hotter LP soo erm yea unless u like hte LP shape and stuff...............also if im not mistaken the LP Studio has a 60s slim taper neck, they are quite thin on most counts

id say the super thin ones are the ibz , but if you have been playing LP style it might need some adapting to go
that being said, if you restrict yourself to thin necks then you lose out on a lot of nice guitars in your budget

second hand Jackson Jpn
Charvel
Fender/Squiers

i thought the non-contour guitars are those that make it painful, but doesnt make sense unless TS puts it high like a jazz guitarist

This post has been edited by +3kk!: Nov 12 2014, 10:41 PM

i dun hv an LP but body-wise the studio should be no different right...

what i mean is this (picture below). This is current height im playing. So what im into now, song like in the video. I guest my problem is about the body contour or the LP fat body. And im want to try play a little bit higher position than now.

owh that, why not maintain the old posistioni if it works. another way is you slant your guitar slightly forwards and rest your arm on its face.

generally avoid guitars that dont have the contour if it concerns you

This post has been edited by +3kk!: Nov 13 2014, 08:37 AM

thats such an uncomfortable angle and height to get any decent speed when palm muting, unless your name is james hetfield.
for most mere mortals, playing it higher would guarantee some form of palm muting speed.
of cos if all ur gonna do is regular power chords, then doesnt really matter...just angle ur wrist differently so the forearm isnt resting too much.

anyway, what u need is...




This post has been edited by Everdying: Nov 13 2014, 08:51 AM

yeah, your right. sometimes i need to bend my shoulder forward to avoid this. I think my belly + LP fat body may be the cause.
but i guess it is time i explore other type of guitar. that is why i need all guitarist here share what is in your mind now. Cause i just know the major guitar brand but dont know the guitar model. Been playing to C type of neck for 5 years. Looking for D type to test.


I will look like this then if i bend my shoulder forward.



This post has been edited by ecitenoid: Nov 13 2014, 09:16 AM

forget C or D.
the neck thats best of both worlds is either a V or asymmetrical neck...V takes getting used to but its really good once u get used to it.
one of the most popular guitar with V neck is dimebag's.
and the cheapest model i know with asymmetrical neck is epiphone.

wow.! asymmetrical neck. this is new to me. Thanks sifu.! learn something today.

cause before this i just now the alphabet. haha

will do some research (google).

This post has been edited by ecitenoid: Nov 13 2014, 09:32 AM

what you can do is well put it slightly lower, or put it a bit higher so that your arm can hang over it. another thing is angle your guitar a bit more or less, as long its comfy

i used to have this issue, and i liked it low for rhythm but high for lead. headache really, but after a while got a comfy spot and i kinda stuck with it. somewhere near yours, but i angle my guitar more so the rhythm hand is lower. diff people are a bit diff on it so some self experimentation is needed.

on the topic of necks tho, a good guitar should play well irregardless of what neck it has. you can find a guitar that has C neck, that plays like cow dung, then pickup another that has C and plays as smooth as silk. likewise the same of thickness it does not guarantee a good feel, hence why you can have 2 ibanez one can play wonderfully another plays like crap.

being a "lalang" as everdying would say , the guitars i own come with a large variety of neck shapes and sizes. they all play wonderfully

This post has been edited by +3kk!: Nov 13 2014, 10:20 AM

Try those 80s style superstrats (Charvels, Jacksons, or may favourite Fender Strat with HH) they should solve all the issue you're having.

If you want something fatter sounding try PRS

year end sale + GAS = poor.

haha, i get your point there. i will keep in mind.

now i need keep on adjusting my strap to find the right spot.

i still need a long journey to explore this and gain knowledge. current now i more use to LP curve neck. But on metal stuff, want to try the variety neck out there and find that suits me. hehee..

for Ibanez and PRS, time to lepak Bentley half day this weekend.

may ichibashi, soft, and ebanex be your friend,

if they let you, try ask them let you try a fender CS nocaster. it would give you a benchmark on what a thick baseball bat neck is really like

cause these days most guitars are medium/medium thin, the whole thin neck argument is kinda obsolete. only guitars i know that still has this baseball bat neck is, nocaster, R8 and orca.

Yeah, find the right amp and test them kaukau.. back to back. even better standing with a strap!

im pretty sure u know i would never recommend crappy guitars...
so on that point, say if u have 2 guitars that are built the same except for the necks.
one with a V or heck a slim taper, and another with say a fat C.

true u can still play on them, as they're both made equally well...
but im sure u can say one is built more for speed.

and asymmetrical / V necks, once u try one, u would be asking urself why u still use regular necks

but of cos it still comes down to whats most comfortable for u.
some can still shred on thick necks, but the generalization still applies.

This post has been edited by Everdying: Nov 13 2014, 06:38 PM