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ChaChaZero
post Jun 2 2016, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jun 2 2016, 11:07 AM)
also this character got collision or not? eg in TF2, allies classes can pass through bodies, but enemy cannot. that is the way to spot spy class that time
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Yes to the collisions. Applies to both enemy and allies. Most evidently when a tank is blocking a tiny door and everyone is scrambling to get the health pack behind him before he gets it.

When you run into someone, you will push them slightly to move around them.
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post Jun 2 2016, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(yokoloco @ Jun 2 2016, 01:59 PM)
nerf mccree, buff dva
Reaper tele smoke become blue if he in your team, so dont get confused.
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I didn't realize D.Va had so many problems until this update came out. I rarely visit the Blizzard forums but everyone is kicking up a storm about how much D.Va sucks.

Link: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/t...44914371?page=1

I guess I shouldn't main D.Va so often, no wonder kept getting rekt. I didn't even realise she has the biggest headshot box in the game laugh.gif
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post Jun 2 2016, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(tytons @ Jun 2 2016, 02:34 PM)
i find this ranking thing as bad as the KDR comparison...those that want to rank up a certain characters often do not always contribute to the team as they dont change character when needed..maybe not so much for reinhart since hes needed most times..imagine u get some hanzo or genji that always dont push cos he wants to have less death and kill more and often taking the last hits more than pushing/flanking

i play alot of defence..so my medals are most times less and POTG as well wont be much unless i do a quad kill or something. what are ur opinions?
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The ranking thing is just accumulated score for playing a character based on all the stats that are accumulated. I don't know much about that but if you had no life/work you can easily reach the top ranking even if you truly suck at the game.

What I don't agree with is the importance of the KDR. I always think it is better to maintain a higher kill than death. A dead player is useless to the team and it is especially damaging to this game in escort modes. The 10 secs it takes to respawn and the 10 more secs it takes to get back into position is so damaging that if at any point the opponent is able to take out >2 people, you practically lose half the zone.

Also when I see someone with a D>K ratio, I can safely assume this guy is a kamikaze freak who chases those low HP guys all round the map and gets trapped in the middle of a massive firefight with 2.1hp left. I can understand the low kills for the tanks but when I see an attack character with a 1:1 KDR, I know he's not going to be much help in a prolonged fight which you always see at the end of escort maps.

Knowing when to die and dying for no reason are 2 different things.
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post Jun 2 2016, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(tytons @ Jun 2 2016, 02:57 PM)
@chachazero what if this dude is a 100% full time support hero user? im pretty sure mercy dont always go on a killing spree n probably have very much higher deaths than kill.

the problem is these stats are situational...i have low kills low obj low medals..cos i spend most time far from payload or outside caps defending..yes i die a hell lot too but i take down 1 or 2 with me along the way..so the stats itself wouldnt show such thing.

comparing to some front liner whos capping or tanking..they would have higher kills/objective medals n etc. plus support is usually behind them..so less deaths too.
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The stats also show how much you heal and your objective time. If you're majoring in those 2, I sure hope the person looking at your stats know how to switch to the relevant hero's stats.

It's pretty easy to get a medal for staying with the objective/healing. I myself am pretty bad at killing too but I like to stick close to the objective cause it heals and the enemy comes on their own so I can try to pick them off and have a little survivability.

But yeah, if they only see your base stats and determine how good/bad you are at the game then they're doing it wrong. I always look at the highest stat then switch to the relevant hero to see how good that player is with his chosen character.
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post Jun 3 2016, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jun 3 2016, 10:34 AM)
another question is engineer and turret (torbjorn) after i play a while in test map
does turret need refilling ammo like tf2 does?
does turret building stage you can rotate like tf2 does?
how fast the turret lock down enemy? in TF2 it is a bit slow so you can trick sentries actually. (this does affect where i put my turret like corner or something)
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You can't really compare this game to TF2. It's a totally different animal altogether. Granted I don't have much experience in TF2 due to my slow ass Streamyx last time but with the amount of time I spent with it, the only similarities that I can see are the game modes.

Character wise, none of them plays like TF2. If you try to play this game with the same mindset of TF2, I think you'll be a little more than disappointed.
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post Jun 3 2016, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jun 3 2016, 12:07 PM)
of course i know that is different with TF2, just certain class is kinda same and i read the wiki they does not state those turret thingy, so i ask la before make any mistake.

you know TF2 got trick can make turret cannot hit you? you have to circle the sentry fast enough, valve purposely make it track enemy slower a bit


so back to overwatch turret, is the turret (both type) tracking is same or not.
a) if fast enough i normally leave it
b) not fast enough i normally go out and act as decoy.
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The turret in Overwatch is so fast I can't even get a few hits off it using Tracer without taking a shot. Its almost instantaneous when it rotates to the target.

The only visual cue you get is a line showing where it is aiming at. If you see this line, its probably you. Your best bet is to get a tough character to distract it while you whack it from the back.

Usually D.Va is good for this as she can get in close with little or no damage and shoot it at point blank range.
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post Jun 3 2016, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(darrenwks @ Jun 3 2016, 03:00 PM)
Anyone happened to be stucked as death spectator after dead? Happened to me once and can only back into games after mercy revived me o.O
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No but I have something weirder. Sometimes when I eject from the Meka, the screen turns black and stays that way. When it comes back i'm already dead.

And there are times when the game ends, it goes to a black screen and stays that way permanently. I can't even leave the match. Have to restart the game.
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post Jun 3 2016, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(Frostlord @ Jun 3 2016, 04:15 PM)
i saw some ppl add me but couldnt find anyone online?

how to check for friend list in overwatch?
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The friend list is in the "Social" option in the game. Make sure you are launching the game in the Americas server. Most of the players here are in Americas.

QUOTE(Rextor @ Jun 3 2016, 04:26 PM)
playing without friends gave me cancer ..anyone else experiencing the same ?
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I got cancer too but was healed by playing with people here. After playing with LYN group, joining rando's really give me cancer. Chance of winning is damn near 0%.
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post Jun 3 2016, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(sakrayguy @ Jun 3 2016, 05:05 PM)
Now can play 24/7 till monday  bruce.gif
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Anyone going to try for the 36 win streak?
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post Jun 3 2016, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(e_mc_square @ Jun 3 2016, 05:17 PM)
So LYN Chemo works ya?!  brows.gif
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Don't underestimate the LYN team. They're pretty good when compared to the random teams I've played with so far. Sometimes it's messy but when they're in the zone, you know you got a good team with you.

Sign me up for another session doctor.
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post Jun 3 2016, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(Likesh @ Jun 3 2016, 08:16 PM)
40GB? mine only 6 GB @@
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QUOTE(NoctisLucis @ Jun 3 2016, 08:19 PM)
Can anyone pls tell me the download size for the PC version?
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6GB. You must be referring to the system requirements in the Blizzard site. The game is not that big.
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post Jun 6 2016, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(wyyam @ Jun 6 2016, 11:36 AM)
Can i know what different btw overwatch and overwatch origin edition?
Wanna buy now n play..
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Go to this link and scroll down to the Origin's Edition portion of the page:
https://us.battle.net/shop/en/product/overwatch-origins

You get all those additional stuff from the Origins edition, mostly in game things for other Blizzard games.

The standard version does not come with those.
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QUOTE(Crazee187 @ Jun 6 2016, 01:58 PM)
Hahahaha..  Hmmm Roadhog chain is hitscan or bullet travel?  Same as Zenyatta I never know whether I should leading my targets or aim at them..  It seem like the orb move slow.. Most of the time I just spam it..
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Roadhog's chain is unbelievably hit scan. Thats why it's so damn effective.

Zenyatta's orbs and main attack are bullet travel.
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post Jun 6 2016, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(Crazee187 @ Jun 6 2016, 03:26 PM)
what travel bullet????  bullet travel la we say... hihhihi

the thing about "projectiles" every gun is projectiles.... everything is base on how the server decided a particular weapon hit is register example.

Widowmaker sniper is hitscan.

Hanzo Bow and arrow is bullet travel.

both weapons is projectile. am I right??
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laugh.gif Yes you're correct about the projectile thing. Actually the term projectile is used to describe a game bullet that does not immediately hit a target.

More accurately, the term projectile used for this purpose is wrong. There is no exact opposite of hit scan so the word projectile is used. Back in the old days, projectiles referred to anything that comes out of a gun that can be seen.

It's around the Unreal Tournament time when the term projectile was first used to describe a non hitscan weapon. When TF2 came out, this term exploded and has been in use ever since. It's one of those things that is wrong but because everyone says it, it becomes correct.

Thats why I just kept using the term bullet travel. I've been trying to avoid using the word projectile because technically, everything is a projectile.
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QUOTE(justnits @ Jun 6 2016, 03:39 PM)
while the term projectiles is correct from what crazee has mentioned, bullets are projectiles, but in terms of Overwatch context, projectiles here would mean "bullet travel" or "travel bullet" whichever lah LOL!

btw, is there any place where they describe which is hitscan which is projectiles?
i mean, genji's main attack is supposed to be hitscan or projectiles?
mei's right click is supposed to be hitscan or projectiles?
mercy's deadly pea shooter?
zenyatta's wrecking balls?
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I've been looking for one too but I have not found a specific video/doc/link/etc that states all the types as of yet.

Those that I have found out so far are from videos and Blizzard forums. Some of the videos on Youtube have Blizzard executives talking about the gameplay mechanics and they do mention a little of some characters.

Some of them are from professional gaming competitions where the commentator says it sometimes. You can watch the recent one where Cloud9 vs Luminosity. Thats where I found out Roadhog's stupid hook is actually hit scan.

In Genji/Mercy/Zenyatta's case, I saw a video from Overwatch Central stating that it is indeed bullet travel type.
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QUOTE(justnits @ Jun 6 2016, 05:10 PM)
i just tried a bit googling for it, seems like Mei's right click is indeed projectile and it has damage falloff.
genji's shuriken is also projectile but no damage fall-off.
mercy's deadly pea shooter is projectile as well.
zenyatta's balls is projectile too.

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post Jun 6 2016, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(finalmakers @ Jun 6 2016, 11:13 PM)
anyone playing on american?

i have tried the command for sg and got the server but at some map ping are like 30(streamyx) and some maps ping are like 200-250(cant play)

idk about streamyx but my friend got solid 60ping using celcom broadband at the 200-250ping maps that i got sad.gif
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Same shit connection today. Lowest ping I got is 200 ms. Left and rejoined so many games until I got the leavers penalty. Not even once I got a good connection.
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post Jun 7 2016, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(darrenwks @ Jun 7 2016, 09:01 AM)
so if i joined a losing game like in the last few seconds, does it counts as a lose on my winrate or something?
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Yes it's counted as a loss in your statistics.
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post Jun 7 2016, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Jun 7 2016, 12:39 PM)
the servers are inconsistent, USA, Aussie and SEA servers are covered under 1 region. in order words if SG servers are down you may connect to Aussie (100++ ping) and if both servers are full you may connect to USA (200++)

hence why you see wild ping, one game can be as high as 500, another 200, then another 100 and last but not least the fabled 15.

personally i find playing a game like this, is absolutely silly hence i play in asian servers that get about 60 ping

this is before unifi gets mad occasionally, their lines are somewhat throttled and in consistent, occasionally if the line goes sour your ping can shoot up to 500- 300 and stay there

considering that OW doesnt tell you where you are in, it creates a lot of confusion cause sometimes it maybe unifi, then other times its the server
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About this, I am not sure if that's how the Blizzard servers work. Yesterday I played a game with someone in JB in a group.

Both of us are using Unifi and since we're in the same group, I would assume that we are joining to the same server. Strangely enough, my ping was around 198 and his was around 20.

Unless this game is absolutely bonkers about joining multiple servers to load up one session, I am not sure how can this even happen.

I think I'll switch to the Asian servers too if this keeps up. Lucky Odin Sphere Leifthrasir is coming out tomorrow. I really feel like abandoning this game now.
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QUOTE(RasWong @ Jun 7 2016, 12:59 PM)
Just be calm.  actually this should be TM issue as so far everyday i play with friend only those using steamyx and Unifi have issue with the ping in some matches. not 100% they kena at the same time.  For me and few using TIME having no issue with the ping in consistent 15~17ms.

So please go complain to TM about the issue.  maybe reset port can help? not sure.  remember that got see TM having connection article last week. 

Just continue to enjoy the game without playing agent that need to have projectiles fire if the lag happen  laugh.gif
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Not sure if Unifi is the one causing the problem. I actually did test it out using tethering from uMobile. It gives the same results as Unifi. What pisses me off is I am able to get low ping for some games then when the game is over and we are transitioning to the next map, suddenly the ping shoots up to 200+ for some of us while another few still have low ping. It's so weird.

There is a reason on the OW forums by some tech guy that supposedly goes, there is not enough players of the same rank to match with so it searches for players in other regions. Something to do with the match making but its still weird when we're in a group.

Happens on both Unifi and uMobile. The only similarities I see from both is that the name starts with U. eh...

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