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post Nov 5 2014, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(wayne84 @ Nov 5 2014, 07:13 PM)
Boon, since I already hold some unit on hand, yes...further buying some today, already average down to 3.28 today. I still have 3 chances to average down....am looking for around 3.00 to go in again, then will stop average down if drop below 2.80. Maybe I foresee the oil price is political factor driving the price lower....its a factor that control by some country. So, oil price up and down....is controllable....u know what i trying to mean ? No harm to collect and wait
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What I am really trying to suggest to you is that you can easily improve your buying.

I am a trader and let me say this....
there are ways to actually improve one's buying....
it's not that difficult....
and the very first step is be patient....

For a CLEAR FALLING SHARE.....
it does one no good by trying to be early in buying...
be patient....

For now...
Ask yourself.....
What if you didn't start buying at 3.80?




So your initial buy was at 3.80.
Yesterday you bought more....
and you bought more today.....
( Gee.... how much more did you buy? I guess you must have put in a lot of money into this stock already. wink.gif )

and now your cost is only 3.28.

Compare to the other alternative (which I do not agree cos I feel the downside risk is very great), one who waited could use the support line as a buying guide.... ie one could bought the share at 3.16 today.

See how much lower the alternative cost compared to your 3.28?





Well, do take these as the alternative opinions..... smile.gif

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post Nov 5 2014, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(wayne84 @ Nov 5 2014, 08:22 PM)
Yes, admit that. Less patient. i am improving...slowly
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If you want to be good in the share market (ie you want to make some serious money)....

1. No harm to collect and wait - sorry but I feel this does not help and in fact, in my humble opinion, I think it does more harm actually....... sweat.gif

When one say no harm to collect and wait...
one isn't sure what the stock will do....
which means...
one is unsure...

Now if unsure... why buy?

2. Buying correctly makes a whole lot of difference.

It makes trading profitable and it's much easier to sell when the buying part is done correctly.

3. Paste this again (from this morning....)

Sadly, everyone is programmed to think that all plunging stocks means bargain hunting....

The danger/RISK in that thinking is........

THERE'S NO WRITTEN GUARANTEE THAT ONE WILL MAKE MONEY 100% WHEN THEY BARGAIN HUNT!!!!

Yup, if one buys a stock whose earnings is deteriorating rapidly.........
one could get whiplash by investors cashing their chips out of that stock....
and what used to be a bargain.... could get a whole lot cheaper !!!!



Hope those comment will help you. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 6 2014, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Nov 5 2014, 09:01 PM)
Some positive news for Petrobras so there may be a small rebound for SKPETRO I think. Especially since everything is likely to be green tomorrow after the Republican win in the US. But overall still depends on oil prices.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-11-04/p...ine-prices.html
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Well profits reports from these two companies is not going to help the OnG sector....

First the big shocker...

One of the companies touted by many as a potential star in the sector (not me tongue.gif never liked the name! LOL! ) ....Perisai

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/p...0-rm223-million

and then somewhat related......

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/b...e-348-rm104-mil

The other day.... Petdag reported terrible earnings (but not PetGas)


My say?

Most of these stocks has had a very good run the past few years.
I WOULD take into consideration that the extremely good times could be over....
NO BOOM last forever...
and right, I think perhaps it's best we DO NOT anchor any OnG stocks with their previous highs.....


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post Nov 7 2014, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(Le Don @ Nov 6 2014, 09:19 AM)
Construction stocks doing well lately  hmm.gif

Bjauto rebounding from 3.40  thumbup.gif

Anyone taking a look at BP plastics? The company came to my attention today while reading the edge online.  PE=14, DY=6.5, and EPS rising since 2012. Also, falling oil prices will lower the cost of raw materials (resin) to make plastics, and could benefit companies like Scientex and Bp plastics.
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There are also other choices.

Scientex one is complicated. Although its plastics division is one of the bigger plastic firms but then the earnings is greatly boosted by its property division.
And property is property. Market tends to discount more......

Other choices include SKPRes, SLP, Thong Guan, VS ....... (might miss out some.....)


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post Nov 7 2014, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(Suicidal Guy @ Nov 7 2014, 12:48 AM)
hi boon, what's your take on esceram? possible turnover company?
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Probably a company which is improving might be a better description.

However, having said that.....
do remember that companies with smallish profit numbers, they tend to be unpredictable.
as you can see the unpredictability in Esceram.

Smallish profit numbers = companies with annual profits less than 10 million.

Yes, the past 3 years, have seen Esceram profits improve/grow at a good pace.
But as good as it is, the total profits is only 2.6 million.
Smallish laaaa.....

when times get bad, as in 2011 (if you compare 2010 with 2011), we see profits swing from 1.9 million to a loss of 5 million....

.... and valuations certainly not cheap....
for a company earning profits of around 2.6 million, should the company be worth (ie market cap) 48+ million? wink.gif

But then it's an ACE stock.
LOL!
They say aces go places.... rolleyes.gif

and with the company trading around 26 sen....
many other people will just whack and hantam the stock only.................. laugh.gif


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post Nov 7 2014, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(Suicidal Guy @ Nov 7 2014, 03:29 PM)
Hi boon.. Thanks for the reply..

The profit for fy14 could be 2.6m. But for fy15, it could be up to 4.xm considering that the first q the profit is already 1.1m.

I also think that the smallish profit is risky.I actually look into this stock before the last q report came out but didn't click the buy button.

Looking at the charts and movement, do you think this is a good stock to trade?
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Most important is that you understand the risks involved.

Current movement?
Wait and see T+ for clues direction....
Stock had a nice pump up the other day...
See how the stock digest that movement................
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post Nov 10 2014, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ Nov 9 2014, 09:54 PM)

hi boon, any good news lately??? brows.gif been very busy with work, no time to dig some hidden gem sad.gif
Good news?

Err..stocks not falling.

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post Nov 10 2014, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(Suicidal Guy @ Nov 10 2014, 10:04 AM)
Hi boon,

Mind to share what clues are you looking at? What's a good or bad movement in your opinion?
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For this example, we saw the stock jumped up on good volume.
Stock now consolidating at around 0.26.
If this holds, one of the suggestion/implications is that those buyers who purchased the stock recently, believes in the stock enough that they are willing to hold on to those positions despite them sitting on handsome gains.

ps: this is not 100% fool proof. Nothing is. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Nov 10 2014, 10:12 AM)
plan to read their QTR report then apply chartis.

mine catchment smewhere +-.6x sen. But my net didnt catch any fish...

CPO future show bull.
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How bull can it get la.....tongue.gif




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post Nov 10 2014, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Nov 10 2014, 10:56 AM)
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Not for me......tongue.gif
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post Nov 12 2014, 07:39 AM

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QUOTE(Suicidal Guy @ Nov 11 2014, 11:01 PM)
Hi boon.. Today is t+4.. The stock went down about 10% but with low volume.. This suggests that the buyers are still holding on to their position but with profits heavily reduced.. What's the next thing you would observe?
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Next thing?

I dunno maybe just wait and observe....

As it is, the lack of follow thru buying isn't there......... yet.

Consider the options.....

1. Do you want to wait for the follow thru buying before you jump in?
2. Do you want to be smart and jump the gun by jumping into the stock?

Consider both options and the risks involved....

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This suggests that the buyers are still holding on to their position but with profits heavily reduced..


Well what if that big push was done mainly by daytraders who go in and out the very same day? wink.gif



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post Nov 17 2014, 10:28 AM

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Case again? laugh.gif


Chase the falling stock? whistling.gif


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For a CLEAR FALLING SHARE.....
it does one no good by trying to be early in buying...
be patient....
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Sometimes people cannot see the irony of it....

If the stock was shooting UP instead of down.....
would they chase to sell the stock SHORT at every resistance point? wink.gif

But when the stock is falling.....
they always think cheap is good.......
and they WILL chase to buy....
at every possible 'support' points.....

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It's a strange, strange world....................................

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post Nov 17 2014, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(Le Don @ Nov 17 2014, 11:01 AM)
BTFD  whistling.gif
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LOL!

NCAFS!
WICNCGMC!

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post Nov 17 2014, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Nov 17 2014, 11:31 AM)
NCAFS!
WICNCGMC!

BTFD
all short form i dont understand  cry.gif
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post Nov 17 2014, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(Le Don @ Nov 17 2014, 11:41 AM)
Stock tips?  drool.gif

U mean NCAFS = IFCA? and not Nursing Child Assessment of Feeding Scale  or Net Cost to Avert a FatalityS biggrin.gif
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post Nov 17 2014, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(johnnyzai89 @ Nov 17 2014, 11:46 AM)
I also don't understand T___T
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M2WTF!

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post Nov 17 2014, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(Le Don @ Nov 17 2014, 12:49 PM)
We should talk more about rising stock here  tongue.gif

Anymore upside for the stocks below?  thumbup.gif

or STFR  whistling.gif
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WOW !!!!

Veggie list !!!

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Which one can ah? tongue.gif


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post Nov 17 2014, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(johnnyzai89 @ Nov 17 2014, 01:34 PM)
BBPlas
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Not keen on this one.
If I have to choose in this sector, my blind pick would be SLP. tongue.gif


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post Nov 19 2014, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(Le Don @ Nov 18 2014, 10:57 PM)
Only Digi from my recent veggie list doing well today  sweat.gif

Oil price still going down, may be bad for Msia economy since we are the biggest exporter in Asia. Shipping companies, airlines and plastic companies could profit from this trend  brows.gif

Anyone looking at CPO price? Demand could go up because of B7 biodiesel program. If price rebounds, can buy some plantation stocks later.  whistling.gif

Btw IFCA graph also looks nice too this year  wink.gif
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It's not that straight forward for airlines or rather AirAsia.

For one, they hedge (BET) on stuff like jet fuel and forex. (suggest you read thru their profit reports).
The USD hedge is more important because the bulk of Airasia current debts of over 10 BILLION (yes 10 BILLION) is mostly denominated in USD!!

Sometimes, their hedges go horribly wrong (do google) to the extent that Tony was forced to calm the public and shareholders down by promising no more such bets (... ironically they still HEDGE! LOL! ) (you could also google airline jet fuel hedging and practices)

Anyway, here's why it's not so straight forward...

1. Need to know their hedging positions. ( Me is too lazy to check their latest)

2. Jet fuel. (not same as Brent crude oil)
Yes, jet fuel prices has gone down quite a lot the past few months.
Last month alone, jet fuel lost some 9%!!!!
Anyway jet fuel used to be around 2.80-2.90 per gallon.
Yesterday, it's around 2.36+.
The drop is a lot, no doubt.

However, what's important for traders now is the next profit report for AirAsia is for the period July-Sep.
For this period, jet fuel went from 2.82 to 2.73.
Drop is not that big.

3. USD/MYR for this period, went from 3.20 in July to a low of 3.13 in Aug
Now this period is very important since Tony is a hedger, this is where it's complicated. what did Tony do? Did he get greedy and started hedging that the USD will go down somemore? tongue.gif
And since hitting that low in mid Aug, the USD dramatically made an extremely strong U-turn and closed out Sep around 3.27!!!

Also.... currently...... I think general market/economy sentiments is not that bull.... my thinking and I could be wrong.
So if people not that bull, they might not travel as much.......
Hence the cheaper jet fuel 'might'/'could' be offset by drop in air travelers.............

Not that easy bet.


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post Nov 19 2014, 08:58 AM

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p/s: IFCAMSC.

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I was wrong to be skeptical about it when it was wrong 50 sen +

Yup...

one of them things...... laugh.gif

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