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post Apr 25 2015, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Apr 25 2015, 02:51 PM)
I mean convert.

From IB, u need to convert to EU if you wan  buy EU stock
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Yes, for buying in EUR/GBP etc. you can either deposit those currencies directly or convert (I've deposited both EUR and GBP before, no problems)

If you don't convert they do let you purchase on margin and corresponding balance goes negative.
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post Apr 25 2015, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Apr 25 2015, 05:11 PM)
i think this means IB will take instructions to TT the amt requested in USD. The local bank will then convert to RM at prevailing rate on that day.
hmm... that means for frequent intraday trading, will need >usd25k as deposit.


once or max twice a week, 10k shuld be ok, i suppose...?
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Correct, or you can open USD account with Maybank or whoever you use, then convert between RM when you want smile.gif

If you're only doing a few transactions a week you won't fall under PDT and won't require the $25K minimum smile.gif

Anyway that's a US rule, not broker specific. Others like TD Ameritrade would also require the same.
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post Apr 25 2015, 10:44 PM

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Good time to change ... I need to change in the other direction soon - should have done it earlier doh.gif
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post Apr 26 2015, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(ferox @ Apr 26 2015, 06:19 PM)
We're still waiting...
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Will do it soon ... got sidetracked making another spdreadsheet for keeping track of my own portfolio, never realised there were so mantly google finance features built into Sheets biggrin.gif
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post Apr 27 2015, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(ferox @ Apr 26 2015, 06:19 PM)
We're still waiting...
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/142S...dit?usp=sharing

Hopefully that's correct, need to double check through the formulas.

There seems to be some issues with the GOOGLEFINANCE features, sometimes a few of them don't load up but work after refresh.


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post Apr 27 2015, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(ferox @ Apr 27 2015, 02:14 PM)
Formula looks okay except:
1. Withholding tax for VUSD is 15% not 0% I believe.
2. IB's cost for US denominated stocks on LSE is 0.05% trade value / min. order $5 ($10,000 value). So it should be Qty (-5) & cost (+5) in the formulas.
3. For those who have not build up to $100k, the trading cost on this platform is exactly $10 every month.

I re-did the calculations using criteria (1) & (3) above, my results are:
VUSD 9.68% vs VOO 8.83% (0.85% difference)
VUSD $342.71 extra
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1. VUSD Witholding taxes are already settled in the ETF, not deducted after payout. So there's no extra 15% to be deducted
2. You're right, I was going with £6 / trade which I put at $9, so it's actually $4 / less per trade.
3. I didn't include the platform fee
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post Apr 27 2015, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(ferox @ Apr 27 2015, 02:33 PM)
A quick recalculation:
ROI VUSD 9.74% vs VOO 8.83% (0.91% difference)
VUSD $363.64 extra

So.. IB buying LSE stocks it is?  brows.gif
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For buy and hold they're a better option - of course if amounts are smaller the trading costs become more of a factor.

For active trading not so much - less liquid and higher spreads!

I mostly buy and hold, hardly actively trade at all.
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post Apr 27 2015, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Apr 27 2015, 03:05 PM)
You are correct about this, but dividends will still be taxed.
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Taxed at 15% rather than 30%, the reported dividends already account for the 15% deduction as far as I'm aware.

Double checked last VUSD payout

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CASH Dividend 0.16905300 USD per Share (Ordinary Dividend)


No additional WT, the 15% is already withheld in the ETF - same as if you were holding feeder fund through FSM as example

This post has been edited by rjb123: Apr 27 2015, 03:18 PM
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post Apr 27 2015, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Apr 27 2015, 03:27 PM)
Ok so you buy the VUSD on the LSE.. so you only get charged 15%.. cool yea let us know smile.gif
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Yup, edited previous post already and confirmed with last dividend payout in March thumbup.gif
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post May 2 2015, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ May 2 2015, 06:33 PM)
bloomberg now showing usd/rm 3.6132.
last week 3.55-3.56 wud be nice!
i m late too! laugh.gif
almost there. smile.gif
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As of Friday Maybank are only giving 3.5100 shocking.gif but I've got bills to pay unfortunately doh.gif
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post May 2 2015, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ May 2 2015, 09:39 PM)
maybank sell 3.61....
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3.615... But I'm talking about USD to MYR, other way around.
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post May 3 2015, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ May 2 2015, 09:59 PM)
what u got, 3.51 usd->myr, is about right on fri.

maybe mbb spread a little worse but when i checked cimb on thu, i was told 3.53.

3.6132 myr->usd is probably a derived rate at this time since rm is not traded during the holidays.
http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/currencies/asia-pacific/
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It's the rate from Thursday

Last Update : 30 Apr 2015 at 17:55:01
Disclaimer : Rates displayed are indicative for the day and subject to change without prior notice. For the latest Currency notes and Remittance rates, please refer to your nearest Maybank branch.
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post May 5 2015, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ May 5 2015, 04:50 PM)
thanks to you and rjb, my ib account has just turned active. thumbup.gif
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Already funded?
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post May 5 2015, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ May 5 2015, 05:50 PM)
wired at 10.30am, ib email acknowledgement at 3pm. thumbup.gif

rate at cimb was 3.6310.

kinda high to me since cash rate and normal rate should be about 3.61 today.

tt rates always higher? hmm.gif
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Normally TT rates are better than Cash rates iirc, with Maybank at least. Although I transfer from FCA so don't pay attention as not converting any currency

Looking at CIMB website their rates seem better than Maybank though.
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QUOTE(dragonfire88 @ Aug 12 2015, 12:30 AM)
Good day to all =) I am interested in opening account with Interactive Broker ( IB ), however there's a few things that I would like to clarify before I proceed

Under application form, I have reached W-8BEN form, this is needed as I am Malaysian and that's for tax purposes right? And may I know what are the methods of transfering money that is safe? Normally how you guys transfer the minimum 10k USD over for opening account? I have read the instructions on IB but still abit puzzled over it, plan to get into emailing them or chat but get a few guidance from sifu here

Thanks for all the help
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W8-BEN form exempts you from CGT (Capital Gains Tax) on US stocks. Withholding taxes on dividends still apply (30%)

Deposit just wire from Maybank FCA to their Citibank account in USA. Always arrived on the same day so far - no problems smile.gif
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QUOTE(dragonfire88 @ Aug 12 2015, 05:00 PM)
Seems like a lot useful info and tips in opening IB as i needed from forummers,great helps,thanks, rjb123 ,is it okay if i used CIMB to transfer instead of Maybank as you suggested?

So, money transferred from my bank will converted according to that day rate right? So now it needs to be around 40++k tongue.gif
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CIMB is fine, I just mentioned Maybank as I have FCA there and don't have an account with CIMB.

If transferring from RM account money will be converted at the day's TT rate - looking at CIMB website that's 4.0810 today. I hold USD accounts at Maybank so no conversion takes place.


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QUOTE(wodenus @ Aug 12 2015, 05:33 PM)
Wire charges are kind of high aren't they?
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Full trip including sending and receiving is around $40-50

If you're transferring $1k that's a lot, on $10K+ not such a big deal.

Actually there's ways to deposit avoiding any charges depending where you hold bank accounts :

1. IB SGD account in Singapore, from Singapore account - 0 charge
2. IB GBP account in UK, from UK GBP account - 0 charge

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QUOTE(dragonfire88 @ Aug 12 2015, 05:39 PM)
It's kinda troublesome to purposely went down to Singapore to open an account just for this purpose isn't it? Might as well spend that $40 - 50  tongue.gif
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Yeah - I mean if you have an account there anyway it's an option smile.gif
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QUOTE(toiletwater @ Mar 23 2016, 10:37 PM)
Hi guys,

I am planning to open up a foreign share trading account (e.g, CIMB Itrade), purchase some ETFs in HK (e.g, S&P500 ETF Vanguard). What fees will I be looking at per transaction?
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How much are you looking to be trading with ? International brokers like Interactive Brokers have far more attractive fees compared to local share trading accounts.
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QUOTE(ronho @ Mar 24 2016, 10:09 PM)
7.75% charges  ???
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That's the interest on margin trading (ie borrowing from the broker)

IBs margin rates are far lower by the way.

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