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Hansel
post Aug 29 2017, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 28 2017, 05:59 PM)
FATCA only affect US citizen/pseudo US citiizen (those born in the US) but not those working in the US.
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I recalled there was a question inside FATCA asking if you are a US Resident and if you have a US ITIN,... I have not checked,... I did not pay much attention to it but again, I've not signed a FATCA form for a few years already,...

If I am not mistaken,... FATCA is a form to sieve out the US Tax Residents,... if answering YES to any question in the FATCA does me no harm when opening any accounts in the world,... actually I don't mind applying for a US ITIN,...

Please comment/reply/query,...
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post Aug 29 2017, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 29 2017, 09:40 AM)
1. Why do you want to apply for US ITIN? Do you get any benefits? CPT? We as foreigners don't have. DWT? 30%. Cannot run unless Malaysia suddenly have tax treaty.
2. By answering even one yes, require more scrutiny on you and most likely the financial institution will deny you. (more work for them so they just deny you to make their life easier)
3. Opening a US ITIN means opening yourself up to IRS and IRS have wide arms. Better I keep myself out of IRS way and pay the full 30% when they have wide reaching arms.

Now tell me again why do you need a US ITIN again? Too much free time tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Tq bro,... you replied,... thumbsup.gif

I will answer 2. first,.... sl said there are no prbs opening accts everywhere even after he answered YES. That's the encouraging point.

For 1., yeah,... I don't deny this, but if we can follow their rules and if somewhere their rules have exemptions, then we may stand to be able to recover part of that 30%. We never know,... IF we follow their rules closely,... shld not fear IRS. But we must read their rules closely,... I have gone through this process in North America,.. I think I can handle it,...

This answers your 3. above too. I would love to earn USD divvies legally, just like from Manulife US REIT.
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post Oct 20 2017, 12:33 PM

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I heard brokers may be thinking of charging dividend and maintenance fees too for SG stocks soon since foreign nationals are not allowed to open bank accounts so easily for CDP Access anymore. The time is coming,...

Still in the works, I guessed,.....
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post Jun 3 2018, 02:30 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 1 2018, 11:56 PM)
The US 10k can be use for investing. Keep in mind the monthly USD10 fee if you don't have asset worth USD100k with them. 

IB only good if
1) you trade a lot until your commission >USD10 which means don't need to pay the fees.
2) if you have USD100k with them.

Otherwise go for broker like
1) 8 securities
2) Exante
3) OptiomXpress
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Some discussions about '8 Securities' here. See link added at last line here. The last posting says it's not really 'that foc' for foreigners outside of HK.

For 'OptionsExpress', in Singapore, Charles Schwab Singapore Pte Ltd imposes this : All amounts are in US dollars. Minimum to open an Individual/Joint account: US$25,000.

Brokerage is cheap, only USD4.95 per transaction. But I can't find what the upper limit is for the transactional amount that qualifies for this cheap brokerage. MY feeling is,.....I think the only cost that matters is the TT-ing into and out of funds from out trading account inside Charles Schwab.

Edited to add this link below about '8 Securities'. Forgot to attach this link earlier !

https://apenquotes.wordpress.com/2017/10/10...e-8-securities/



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post Jun 3 2018, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 3 2018, 04:48 AM)
I am the one who left the comment. Obviously that's bank wire charges.  To get best rate,  don't keep bringing money back to Malaysia.

Get a holiday open a HK bank account and you can trade for super cheap price
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For myself,... I will be TT'ing over USDs. There will be no currency conversion. Hence, what that I need to worry about is only the inward TT charges and outward TT charges charged by 8 Securities.

Would you happen to know offhand how much is each of the above with respect to 8 Securities ?

Great net interactions you have there,... thumbsup.gif
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post Jun 22 2018, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(spiderwick @ Jun 22 2018, 10:37 AM)
Hi guys,

I tried to TT over the counter in Maybank (convert from MYR to USD) to TD ameritrades but I was informed by Maybank personnels that we cannot TT for investment purpose...

have u all faced such problem before? or should I use CIMB, Hong leong or other banks?

Or I shouldn't put investment as the reason? But it's obvious right when it is TD ameritrade ...

Tolong guys...

Thank you.
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This is news to me, bro,.... shocking.gif ,... you need to declare that you have no debts in Msia before you can TT a certain sum out,.. that was the rule, I recall,.... BUT not outright telling you that you CAN'T TT OUT for investment purpose...

Let's see others' experience here too,...
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post Jan 8 2019, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 7 2019, 08:35 AM)
Open overseas bank,  use instarem and pay into overseas bank account.
Pay IB using overseas bank account in that country local currency.
Use IB own exchange to exchange to the currency you want since their currency exchange rate is way better than any fintech (cheaper)
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So easy to open overseas bank acct ????
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post May 13 2019, 01:31 PM

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Hmm,... looks like not too many positive things abt using KWSP to invest into ETFs here. Tq for the feedback, bros,...
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post May 26 2019, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(roarus @ May 25 2019, 11:45 PM)
Interactive Brokers = No min funding, first 3 months waiver on min fee. After that, subject to min $10/month or min $20/month if total asset under $2000. Can choose between fixed or tiered rates for commission based on trading size and volume.

TradeStation/CapTrader/other whitelabels = Introducing broker to Interactive Brokers (think buying a MAS ticket but flight is Cathay's), has their own min funding (0 or more), monthly fee (0 or more) and commission charge (marked up from what Interactive Brokers charges them). Behind the scene is all using Interactive Brokers.

I assume you want to open TradeStation for the friendlier commission rates? What do you plan to do with your holdings in CapTrader? Leave it there? Sell and buy again in TradeStation?

Instead of going through the whole min funding process again with TradeStation why not transfer your over holdings from CapTrader? That way you can keep whatever SXR8 you bought in CapTrader (without paying sell and buy commissions again) and accumulate CSPX USD/GBP from now on in TradeStation.

You could hit TradeStation support regarding moving over from CapTrader. Their rep will be happy to give you a call from London. I imagine it'll be an easy process since both are piggybacking on Interactive Brokers.
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While doing pleasure reading on these whitelabel brokerages, I noticed another great attribute of Captrader :-

https://www.captrader.com/en/payments/tax-information/

This is the important point : Withholding Tax

Our customers enjoy the great advantage that the withholding tax is not automatically retained and you can benefit from your entire capital including income and profits. Since your account agreement is concluded with an American company, our customers have this comfortable lead.


So,.. there is not going to be any WHT imposed against the US dividends paid-out from US companies. I am wondering how does Captrader then qualify as an intermediary, as well as as a Withholding Agent for US shares ?

Tradestation has no mention of WHTs.
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post May 26 2019, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(roarus @ May 26 2019, 01:55 AM)
The German translated version adds more detail and confusion at the same time - it appears 30% WHT is still applicable (0% for interest = 0% for capital?), there's some paperwork filing required for reduction. Still, I don't see how one can just buy AAPL and file for tax reduction on the basis of broker/custodian domicile.

In any case, Irish domiciled funds like CSPX and IWDA would already handle the withholding of taxes automatically.

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Tq roarus,... I referred to the above bolded paragraph from the German translation.

That means ALMOST ALL of our capital is credited back to us upon payout,.. EXCEPT for dividend payouts under *Exception.

Then upon filing for personal tax returns in the following year, we will declare the withheld taxes as accrued capital income. But will this accrued capital income be refunded to us ??

What does this mean : ...the custody compound is not located in Germany.
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post Jul 25 2019, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(kimjiwon @ Jul 24 2019, 08:48 AM)
Nothing is safe, common sense high risk high return
is your so-called common ETF low risk high return?
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 24 2019, 01:16 PM)
I am not talking about common sense ETF. I am talking a out common ETF and not exotic ETFs (reverse ETF,  leverage ETF)
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I salute people like kimjiwon who are willing to take risks investing into ETFs. At least he is not the type of investor who will wait till the prices reach near zero before investing. NO need for hard words.... look t the other side of things always. Why say uncommon ETFs ???

I don't invest into ETFs, but I have knowledge of Inverse ETFs and Leverage ETFs,... what is so uncommon abt them ?
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post Jul 25 2019, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 25 2019, 10:02 AM)
Agreed. Do not buy US stocks or ETF via FSM. Only use FSM for parking,  buying SG stocks and HK stocks.

That's only true if you do a TT. That's TT fees. If you exchange via FSM internally no charged.
For TT into FSM USS bank account and for them to TT money back to you.
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It is exactly words like the above in bold that make brokerages start to charge Platform Fees. mad.gif

Sure, then you say, if they charge, then I change to another brokerage,... so, how many times do you want to run away ??? Wait till all brokerages blacklist your name, and all don't allow you to open accounts anymore.

I would rather let my brokerage earn something,... you have never experienced what the clients of SCB SG experienced few years go when SCB were toying abt closing down their equity trading business.

Let people earn something-lar,... especially if the service is good and the people have quality and attitude for work. Otherwise,... don't invest in that country if you have negative thinking abt the brokerages earning something.

Edited by adding this : you see,... now the SG brokerages are starting to toy with charging dividend-handling fees,...the pattern is there,...becuse if investors like you,.... mad.gif

An International Financial Centre that welcomes most worldwide investors. Facility is there, currency keeps strengthening, continuously-improving regulation for the investing public to protect their interest,... what more do you want ? You don't pay tax on your investment returns, you know ???

Let people earn a bit-lar,.... It's worth it,....

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post Jul 25 2019, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 25 2019, 04:53 PM)

No point I pay them if their service no good right? Why pay them for them to charge me more fees (in dividend fees,  quarterly management fees,  higher commision)  if they cannot even provide me service for US, UK, Canada market at cheap price?  Is business. Does the broker give me anything in return for the money I paid them? No right? May the best broker wins. They want my money simple only. Make change. Be on par with interactive broker. They are no where at that level. Spot exchange rate, multiple market access at cheap price

Short story: SG brokers do not have quality features and yet they wish to get away with charging more than what they deserve. Is like TV vs Maxis FIBRE.  Why pay more for Streamyx 1mbps (RM110) when you can get Maxis fibre (RM89) 30mbps? That's exactly how SG brokers are.

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Then I will ask you a simple question : why did you not close ALL your SG bank and brokerage accts and go with IB only ? Why stay and complain ?

In your world, best broker is IB, right ?
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post Jul 25 2019, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 25 2019, 06:00 PM)
I have no issue with closing my brokerage account if they don't serve any purpose. With the maybank fiasco I told my trade representative to send me account transferred form and closure form. At the end of the day is just a tool to achieve your end goal. Why so touchy I spoke the truth about SG brokers?  They are a leech. It's cold hard truth.

For now yes. Have not found a replacement for it yet. Like I said where on earth can retail investors like me without priority banking have access to spot exchange rate,  more or less worldwide market at such low peice? Is like a wish come true. They make everything cheap and possible. Investing doesn't need expensive fancy looking Relationship management. Is like now everyone can invest.  Something like air asia. Now everyone can fly. Sorry I have a peasant mentally so additional cost is a very sensitive issue to me especially if the additional cost does not being any added benefits.
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Good. Don't forget to close all SG accts,.. Don't comment abt them anymore. smile.gif

One more thing : close the DBS bank acct too. Don't talk abt brokers only.
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post Jul 26 2019, 04:20 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 25 2019, 07:11 PM)
I am thinking more about it like AirAsia. Ugly interface, cheap but practical. Gets you from point A to B  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
And why should I close? I close only what is not relevant and not useful. If is still useful why close? Wondering why are you so touchy when come to brokers? Remember they are not family members which deserve our kindness.

If you like to support them by paying them extra, by all means go ahead. I got no issue. I just wished that they will buck up and give cheaper options to retail investors. Why the need to charge so high cost? It's true as one Singaporean said, investment in Singapore is a costly affair with ETF costing an arm and leg with what they cost in the US.
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Don't deviate from the main theme by using words like touchy. Shows your immaturity towards a strong debate. Grow up.

So, you still think this SG bank is GOOD. Then talk abt the good side more, don't insult the bad side only. Remember to close all the SG broker accts. Do not hesitate, YOU carry the conscience if you leave any SG brokerage acct open.

And don't comment abt the SG brokerages anymore. Your whinings are uncalled for, if you don't like it, then leave. Why whine and bark everyday and night ? biggrin.gif

Grow up.

By the way, you call it an ugly interface because you do not know how to use it, and your mind is not accustomed to it.
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post Jul 26 2019, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 26 2019, 07:37 AM)
Actually is true. I touched about SG brokers being outdated,  pricey, and you straight jump. If that's not touchy,  I don't know what is. Reality and truth is harsh to swallow. I know. I think is fair if we comment about the negative part of brokers?  No?  Recently we commented on difference in IB Whitelabels.

Like I said different brokerage for different purpose. Got nothing to do with conscience.

We are talking about brokerage here. Not bank.

The only good thing about SG custodian brokers Maybank KE Prefunded and FSM is the no fee for keeping an account with them until recently with Maybank actions. Able to participate in rights and placement as an international investor without a SG address. FSM have good parking place for money. That's the only benefit. Period.

I was comparing with POEMS, DBS V and FSM interface. Interface is of no importance to me.
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Looks like you are still not confident abt closing your brokerage accts in SG. You keep saying this and that, trying to create reasons to yourself, and to readers here in order to maintain your SG brokerage accts.

Look at me - I have full confidence in my SG accts. I don't apply IB or White Labels though I know and have read abt them. What are you afraid of ? Scared that one day IB or the White Labels will dissapoint you in some way ?

You're WRONG abt DBS being a bank only. YOU enter through the DBS site for the cheaper cash upfront acct. NOT through DBSV. Pls get your facts straight before commenting.

You are also wrong abt the SG address thing. But since you are talking so much here abt how bad the SG brokerages are, and need to close your accts soon, I won't teach you further.

I'll stop whining here, otherwise, I'll turn out to be like you... biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Jul 26 2019, 08:37 AM)
Actually I am also thankful there are ppl like you around..u keep the brokers in check.. ur biz might not be much but brokers do not like to lose market share both in terms of volume and client base ...i , for one , is not so price sensitive ...if everyone is like me or even Hansel , I think brokerage rates around the world will still be sky high.. actually the main reason was also the competitiveness of IB... but u also don’t see IB getting all the share ... in fact they are not even Top 5 biggest in US.. see? Not everyone is so price sensitive ... there are other factors to consider
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Bro,... his comments are giving reasons and ideas to the SG brokers to create more fees and costs for us ! MKE did the acid test and tried to impose those charges, and would have been successful if not for some investors who raised concerns to the regulators,...

Secondly, IB is not very cheap for buying US shares. My brokerage is even cheaper.

Don't listen wholly to him.

...added : If ever one day, the fees become too high in SG,... then it's thanks to him.....

Frankly,... I did my best to introduse a good jurisdiction for us in Msia and elsewhere to invest into,... I have nothing personal to gain from it. He bought my idea too and invested there. He opened accts there. He was lucky, he moved fast.

Today,... he is trying to damage this effort.

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Aug 9 2019, 10:43 PM)
this thread is getting more interesting when Bro Hansel met Ramjade.

please be chill.
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post Aug 17 2019, 08:04 PM

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Bros, you need the help of a tax agent, at least for the first year. After that, I believe you can do it yourself,... but well,... just a theory only...

Let me try !!!!!!
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 17 2019, 03:06 PM)
Never try. Not going to try. If you try maybe can share here.
Having a tax no with US govt means it's very difficult for you to open account anywhere in the world as most places once they know you have some connection to US govt straight will reject any of your application to open account. Hard to close account also. Good eg is London major spend so much just to renounce US citizenship. His only mistake was being born in the US. Costly and troublesome for business so they choose not do business with you.

Perks of being a US citizen (FATCA) where you can't escape the long arms of the IRS. I rather pay the 30% tax then involve with IRS of the US govt and make my life difficult in the futurre.
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If you are a Non-Resident, your file will begin with the letters - 'NRA' followed by a line of digits. Having an NRA file is okay, for this clearly states that you are not a resident, nor a PR nor a citizen of The United States of America.

Having a 'NRA' type of tax file is equivalent to filling-in the W8-BEN form. In North America - Non-Resident Tax Files are of NRF or NRA types,...

There is NO problem here, and when you fill-in your FATCA and your CRS forms in future, there is no difference compared to what you are doing now.

If not too sure, don't simply comment-lar, bro... I know you are trying to be a know-all,... that's up to you,..

Anyway,... I chose to counter-comment here because WHTs are starting to bite me here and there,...

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