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post Nov 18 2016, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 18 2016, 12:06 PM)
What's ToS?
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ToS = Think or swim (TD Ameritrade)
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post Nov 18 2016, 01:50 PM

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Agree with AVFAN, every investor uses each platform differently.

The only real way to make an informed decision is to write down a few months of trades and do the calculations based on that.

If one is buying regularly, then the options which are now out of reach because of min deposits etc they should be within reach not too long in the future
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post Dec 8 2016, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(lch78 @ Dec 8 2016, 09:17 PM)
Tested TDAA platform. Very confusing.
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TOS (Think or swim)?

If I'm honest since I transferred my TDAM holdings to TDAA I've logged in once and never put a trade through. I assumed the platform is the same
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post Dec 9 2016, 02:23 AM

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In case anyone is interested - looks like another way to deposit without charges to IB can be through Citibank.

As USD funding is done to Citibank USA, if you have a Citibank USD account in Malaysia you should be able to transfer USD instantly without any charges.

Limits seem to be $12500 for normal account holders and $25000 for Citigold customers, can do it online too and not necessary to go to the branch.

Will give this a go and report back next week!

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post Dec 9 2016, 02:38 AM

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According to what I found on other forums Citi global transfer service doesn't work to institutional accounts.

Anyway, no harm in trying!
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post Dec 9 2016, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Dec 9 2016, 09:12 AM)
its for personal account only.
How to open citibank usd account?
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You can just go to one of their branches and open - same as any other bank.

There's a fee though if your balance is under a certain amount.
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post Dec 27 2016, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(asimov82 @ Dec 27 2016, 10:37 AM)
boss, hows ur experience with citi??
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Confirmed with RM - it isn't available for deposits to institutional accounts.

So you can still TT from Citi USD auto IB but normal TT charges apply. At least they have a decent limit ($25K I think) and can be done online unlike Maybank where I need to visit the branch
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post Dec 27 2016, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(asimov82 @ Dec 27 2016, 09:24 PM)
so it means as individual we can online transfer between the MYR/USD account as normal payment and transfer,
isnt it is free for these? y still consider as TT and charge TT? how much is the charge?

as stated in website:
https://www.citibank.com.my/english/deposit...alMoneyTransfer
"No additional fees or charges required."  hmm.gif
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I'm talking about transferring from Citibank Malaysia to Interactive Brokers Citibank account in US, not between own accounts.

Transferring between own accounts (USD to MYR) has better rates than Maybank too.
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post Dec 27 2016, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(asimov82 @ Dec 27 2016, 10:15 PM)
ic, so the cheapest way is from own MYR citi account to own USD citi account, then to IB account.
last one is not us local bank transfer?
thanks.
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From MYR yes, although probably same if you transfer from MYR directly to USA

Citibank USD account will be held in Malaysia so that part would still be a foreign TT.

Cheapest (free) is actually if you have an account overseas where IB also has an account e.g. GBP in UK or SGD in SG
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QUOTE(asimov82 @ Dec 27 2016, 10:33 PM)
Oh, I think I get it wrongly, the USD account mentioned here is the foreign currency account, that's is held in Malaysia.

I am mistaken it as US account, which we do fund transfer as in "Citibank Global Transfer".
thus, I am surprise and want to know how to open citi account in US locally.

same idea for open actual SG citi account and do "Citibank Global Transfer" to it.

thanks anyway thumbup.gif
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Opening Citi account in Singapore should be possible I think, although then you'd still need to change form USD to SGD with them as IB SG account only takes SGD incoming transfer.

US is difficult I believe - I looked into it before briefly and there doesn't seem to be a way without having SSN (social security number)

I have OCBC in SG and can deposit SGD without charges - but their exchange rates aren't good so don't use that option as I don't have any income in SGD.


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post Dec 28 2016, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(KAZIWO @ Dec 28 2016, 05:43 PM)
Hi , how do you cash out the money into ringgit ??
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Withdrawal would be in USD (not sure if SGD available?) if you transfer to an RM account then it'll be converted at your banks rate.

I'd only withdraw to USD account, can convert back to RM from there if needed.
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post Dec 29 2016, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Dec 29 2016, 11:06 PM)
Been reading all 19 pages on ETF, funding etc...what an eye opener.

Been reading up on DriveWealth broker as well. seems like a relatively new fintech company that is a member of FINRA and SIPC, so i guess it's legal.

From the practice account, there are pros and cons:

Pros:
1. multiple funding options: TT only incur the cost at the bank and no charges from their side, funding using credit card etc
2. commission USD2.99/trade
3. can buy a fraction of share
4. min deposit USD50-60 (including misc fees)
5. web site seems very simple and graphical, probably good for beginners

Cons:
1. only limited stocks available to trade
2. less common compare to big boys. can last long term?
3. no GTD functionality. So order last for 1 trading day only
4. withdrawal USD45 each time
5. security concern?

Cant seem to find much info about this broker but seems to attract retail customers (claim to have >100k retail customers). Worth the risk?
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They do seem legit, looking at few bits of information. Although I've never heard of them until now, if they're part of SIPC your investments are protected
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post Jan 1 2017, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Jan 1 2017, 09:00 AM)
What is the different listing of etf at Arca , bat, nasdaq ?
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Just different exchanges, end result is the same
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post Jan 1 2017, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 1 2017, 09:44 AM)
rjb123, AVFAN said it's getting harder to open IB. Is that true?
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I've had my account open for a while now so wouldn't really be able to comment on the opening of new accounts.
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post Jan 10 2017, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 10 2017, 08:02 PM)
rjb123 sorry for borthering you. I would like to ask how do you fund your IB?

1. SGD > IB
2. USD/GBP > IB
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Only Nr 2 at present.

My income is in USD or GBP so I can either deposit GBP from a UK account (fee free) or from USD which costs around $50 as a round trip.

SGD is an option but I'd have to buy SGD first so not really convenient at the moment!
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jan 10 2017, 10:23 PM)
Right,... so rjb123 deposits GBP notes into IB from his UK Account which is free, since that account is based in the UK (whose natural currency is the GBP), but if he deposits USD into that account, he will have to pay USD50 fee, because the USD would then be foreign currency in the UK,... Is my understanding correct ?
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 10 2017, 10:40 PM)
Well he did said it's cheaper to fund account using SGD than using RM. Let's wait for his reply.
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As long as IB has a local account where you're depositing funds you can avoid the bank charges - with USD it isn't avoidable unless you have a bank account in the US which should allow you to do I think it's called ACH deposit.

Ie. GBP account in UK to IB UK Account = Free, SGD account in SG to IB SGD Account = Free

As SGD is freely tradeable, you can convert from SGD to USD with pretty much no spread inside IB. Of course you have to get SGD first .. converting from RM is never great as you have to change from RM in Malaysia before anything else!
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post Jan 11 2017, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jan 11 2017, 07:32 AM)
Tq rjb123,....

Pertaining to the above, I would understand you would be able to transfer over funds from a Sgp bank acct in SGD into the IB SGD Acct,...

But my question is : are you able to give SGD cash by hand to the IB employees at the IB Office in Sgp to be deposited into your IB SGD trading acct ?
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I haven't tried this but I'm 99.99% sure that no broker would accept a direct cash deposit. They don't even accept transfers from accounts in a different name.


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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jan 11 2017, 06:42 PM)
YES,... bro,... all my doubts are cleared. Your second sentence : They don't even accept transfers from accounts in a different name, happened after the 1MDB case started blowing-up,... yes, my private banker warned me of this !!!

In some past postings when a forummer said to me,... capital controls has been in existence even before 1MDB started, yes, I would agree,.. but back then,...before the 1MDB fiasco started, your second sentence has not been enforced yet !

After that 1MDB case blew up, MORE enforcements were put in place,... and more restrictions against capital movement were enforced,... That's why I said,... thanks to 1MDB. Now I/we am/are heavily inconvenienced.
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I meant the deposits to IB - IB won't accept deposits from any account not in your own name - this has been in place for everyone, not just accounts / individuals in Malaysia.
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QUOTE(asimov82 @ Jan 11 2017, 06:54 PM)
I am thinking of the Citibank approach:

1. open MY Citibank account
2. open SG Citibank account
3. move fund around using the "global fund transfer"

anyone try this before?
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Same approach as using HSBC Premier Global View really - but still at mercy of the bank exchange rates.

Not sure how difficult / easy it is to open Citibank SG account, never tried.

If MYR was openly traded life would be much easier (ie. more competitive exchange rates!)
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Wow, this thread's been busy today!

I think the easiest way to make a decision is just to list down the few different scenarios (ie. local, TDAA/IB, SG Broker) taking into account all the different costs and what the end result is.

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