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de1929
post Jan 24 2015, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 24 2015, 11:22 AM)
No you don't get me, you say you use faith to confirm that Calvary uses Bribe, even saying evidence is not important. Common sense and your faith prevail over evidence.

I now say by my faith you're really a donkey in nature.

It's okay when you use Faith to accuse but it's not okay for you when other people use faith to accuse. Do you see how flipflop you are?

See this is the thing you don't understand, we are trying to guide and teach you, but you think we're trying to fight you.

You cannot teach or guide. You have problem understanding people's sentences, you make too many assumptions in the wrong context.

Spiritual warfare is not against people. How to have spiritual warfare with you? Punch you in the spirit? Do you know what is spiritual warfare?  doh.gif
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sorry miscommunication. i think u know my value lah...

When you reply in post: 2521 i tot the "concept" meaning the whole conversation not only the bribing part.
I already fixed 2522...

my mistake to understand post 2521...

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post Jan 24 2015, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 24 2015, 11:12 AM)
I am not contradict. Jesus teaches a lot of things. not only love your enemies... but also remove your enemies. OT describes it well.

i don't have to kill myself... i can hire hitman e.g.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 24 2015, 11:22 AM)
Jesus teach to remove your enemies?  doh.gif Really? lol.
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Jesus teach to remove your enemy... no
Jesus teach to love your enemy...yes
bible is complete... yes
david kills in OT... yes
obama ordered US troops to kill ISIS... yes.

what' to conclude ? can i kill people... read my whole post earlier lah... still the same value, still the same mindset
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post Jan 24 2015, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 24 2015, 01:02 PM)
Sorry to say there's no exception in defining bribery is a sin and wrong. You created your own concept that it's an exception.
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You live yours, i live my conviction. The strong one rules... hehehe... thumbup.gif

QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 24 2015, 01:02 PM)
ust now you said Yes, now you say No?
Always changing your mind?

So how to trust what you say since you seem to change your mind the moment it doesn't favor you?
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only typo sorry biggrin.gif

Jesus in NT teaches exatcly like you teach.
Jesus in OT (i called it GOD) told David to kill philistines.

ended up same lahh... same GOD anyway...

You live yours, i live my conviction. The strong one rules... hehehe... thumbup.gif

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post Jan 25 2015, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 24 2015, 04:03 PM)
In other words you admitted you've created your own version of Christianity.
You have nothing to based on, not even the Bible as you adamantly refuse to accept that context in the Bible is important.
How many typos you want to apologize before you stumble other Christian brothers/sisters with your baseless teaching?

You have walked beyond dangerous ground when you admit you will even kill a person IF God's voice tells you to (I don't know if you're trolling or not)
I am very convinced you are lost & confused.

There is no such thing as the strong one rules, therefore his conviction is the truth. That is childish.
If you think that The Strong one rules, this verse will apply against you.

Zechariah 4:6

Now you are going against the principal of God with your own might & power (strong one rule). (2 Corinthians 12:9)

May God have mercy on you before your pride becomes your downfall.
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are you telling me JESUS CHRIST does not have rights to ask me to kill our neighbors ?
are you telling me JESUS CHRIST will not to ask me to kill our neighbors, because bible say love your neighbors ?


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post Jan 25 2015, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jan 25 2015, 09:19 AM)
I sincerely think you are missing UW's point, by asserting your own opinions that isn't necessarily accurate in the biblical sense.

You cannot convince people that your opinions are correct until you are able to completely discredit the importance of using the bible as a point of reference to Christianity in the first place. That is unless you are actually trying to prove that Jesus Christ himself has just recently spoken to you to deliberately discredit something, or everything that was ever written in the Bible.

And most of all, remain calm and composed over yourself.
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Thx Deadlocks... i will try to remain calm biggrin.gif

Jesus understand bible 100%, but lawyers does not understand bible 100%. Therefore sure there are something that we don't know. If we say "bible is very clear about this and that"... be very careful... ask Jesus, because only HE understand bible 100%.... My term is: Ask HS...

Many christian are powerless, because their biblical filter is a set of "yes / no", then after that they ask GOD for blessing.
My Christianity is acknowledge GOD is righteous / sovereign over "yes / no", and ask for exception if i need to break the law.... Ask HS that is my short.

1. can christian lie ?
2. can christian salesman convince client by hiding some truth ?

I think we both know lah ya... what is my answers biggrin.gif
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post Jan 25 2015, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jan 25 2015, 03:02 PM)
Yeap, reading the bible. But I sometimes feel like an injured animal still limping.

I am still in a state of shock. In just a matter of 2 weeks everything changed. No even an indication or early signs of what happened.
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here...here... eat some food biggrin.gif I speak comfort in JESUS name ... Amen icon_rolleyes.gif


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post Jan 25 2015, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 25 2015, 05:36 PM)
You are seriously out of your mind if you think, Today God is going to tell you kill anyone.
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Ah improvements... Yes, GOD can tell me to kill anyone...

but today somehow i was thiking the word euthanasia ?

Can Christian doctor do euthanasia ? is that perhaps the question ?
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post Jan 25 2015, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 25 2015, 09:06 PM)
You don't give much reason for people to doubt you're a lunatic, do you?

Sigh.

God Told Woman to kill sons.

God told me to kill my baby

God told me to stone someone.

I think you potentially could be one of them. Since you say If the HS tells you to kill someone you will do it.
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essentially correct ... thanks for helping the users here to clarify. much appreciated.

now let's take to next level... intercede...

where are you church ? why don't you intercede the woman when GOD told her to kill her sons ?

let me share you 1 reason that was revealed:
GOD does not want that sons, to be ISIS or whatever bad plan that devil has provided, and church (like usual in the past) are not ready to stand in gap. so... between 2 bad choice... better to kill him.

Well GOD always sovereign isn't it ?


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post Jan 25 2015, 09:55 PM

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So i assumed everybody understand devils bad plan for all children in this earth, and GOD's reserve rights to cancel devils bad plan anything / anyway GOD thing best.

If the churches are not ready to stand in the gap. The killing will continue.


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post Jan 25 2015, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 25 2015, 10:22 PM)
Well, its up for God to decide. Not you, me, and the rest of Christianity to decide whether any killing is justified.

Besides why would you want to kill? So if God tells you to kill your wife, sons and daughters, would you still do it?
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correct... its up for God to decide

-- now i gonna answer your questions --

I believe GOD sees things that i don't see and who can i not to trust in HIM ?

economy going bad, pornography went rampart, prices goes up like s*it, morality out, love getting cold ?

actually my prayer is JESUS second coming came soon so bye2x everybody... me & my family goes to heaven and enjoy our reward.

--- answer for Tina ---

It's hard and I will ask a lot confirmation and condition from GOD.... few of the confirmations are:
1. I will tell my family daddy will have to kill you all... want it or not ? and if my family say YES, cuz they also got conviction from GOD that their daddy, has to end their live.
2. If my family start to run away from me... then it's sign it's not from GOD.
3. ---
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a lot of confirmation that i cannot shared....

what if all confirmation answered ?
then YES.
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post Jan 25 2015, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 25 2015, 10:44 PM)
shakehead.gif  rclxub.gif  doh.gif

May God have mercy upon you. You are a lost little lamb.
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you are relatively rich girl right ? has engineering degree... EU passport, not malaysian citizen,
I believe german / chinese mix is pretty... easy to get boyfren...

i think you don't know what is living in poverty lah sister.... no money, no skill, not pretty, no degree... can feel their misery ?

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 25 2015, 10:56 PM)
I'm not that super rich la. I still need to work.

Bf? Easy yes, but to find a good Christian bf is hard.

I know about being poor. I went to Indonesia and Philippines before. I visited the slum area. Not a pretty sight if you ask me.

Dude, we just want you to not kill anybody ok? Understand? God NEVER permit us to kill one another.
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oh you know... good..good... yes not pretty sight...

thx for being nice to me... i get your warmth feeling... of course i am not a killer...

About God never permit ? depends... OT (old testament) has recorded it. NT not. This is where all bible scholar argued.


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post Jan 25 2015, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 25 2015, 11:10 PM)
Are you sure?

Matthew 5:21 English Standard Version (ESV)

21 “You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not murder; and whoever murders will be liable to judgment.’
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As i said: OT has recorded it, NT don't have.

matthew is NT (new testament)...

1 Samuel 15: 2 - 3 is OT (old testament).

"Thus says the LORD of hosts, 'I will punish Amalek for what he did to Israel, how he set himself against him on the way while he was coming up from Egypt. 3'Now go and strike Amalek and utterly destroy all that he has, and do not spare him; but put to death both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.'"
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post Jan 25 2015, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jan 25 2015, 11:10 PM)
de, i think seriously you need to get some consultation from a professional psychiatrist or psychologist
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They will call me lunitic / crazy.

I also know the risk of following GOD 100% may look lunitic / crazy.

Thanks ngai, i am not crazy lah...
good news biggrin.gif GOD never told me to kill somebody ok...
i am not a killer, i am a father.

don't reply UW questions okay biggrin.gif ... the answer will be the same...
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post Jan 25 2015, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 25 2015, 11:35 PM)
Oh now you say God never told you to kill.  shakehead.gif

Can you please make up your mind?

Please go visit a mental hospital. For all of our sake.
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jan 25 2015, 11:40 PM)
Usually those with this disorder won't admit it. But , no harm to have a session with the specialist although it can be expensive.

Those gone crazy won't be crazy over night. It is actually a progressive thing. The thing is the deeper it goes, the more difficult to climb up from it. Not sure you understand or not.
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never means, until today i don't have a historical track of neither killing anybody nor GOD told me to kill...
but tomorrow not belong to me... if tomorrow GOD told me to kill... my previous post answers stays

that 2 sentences are very long... so i paraphrases it... sorry lah yaaaaa... perhaps you can propose better sentence ?
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post Jan 25 2015, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 25 2015, 11:30 PM)
1 John 3:12 ESV

We should not be like Cain, who was of the evil one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his own deeds were evil and his brother's righteous.

Why do you insist that killing is allowed? You like to do the opposite aren't you?

You are really losing your marbles.
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same answers lah tinaaaaa.... have you read my reply to UW ?

killing, bribing, lying all same... Ask HS first before doing it... still same principle...
if i typo please correct me...

until today my convictions stays... if i do change... i will update...
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post Jan 25 2015, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 25 2015, 11:51 PM)
Gue cabut dulu ya pak, ngantuk nih..

Gue ngak mau ngomong sama orang gila.
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Good night Tina... sleep well
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post Jan 26 2015, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jan 25 2015, 11:40 PM)
Usually those with this disorder won't admit it. But , no harm to have a session with the specialist although it can be expensive.

Those gone crazy won't be crazy over night. It is actually a progressive thing. The thing is the deeper it goes, the more difficult to climb up from it. Not sure you understand or not.

Some even totally normal when you meet him or talk to him from the outside but actually in the inside, that person is another person. For example those with split personality. I have read a book on this which written by doctors. This has to do with some brain chemical imbalances.

But of course the initial solution is not to rely on drug because although drug help, drug will have side-effect and have dependency on it.
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jan 25 2015, 11:55 PM)
de, sometimes I wish to rebuke that person who wrongly teach you on all the wrong stuff which it has become so in grain in your head.
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thx ngai for ur kindness..

do you mind i asked you question biggrin.gif ... do you believe in levitation spell like below ?

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what i try to say, if i explain this levitation spell to psychologist / psychiatrist... yes, sure i ended up in hospital.
Same also if i explain all conversation with UW about killing to psychologist / psychiatrist.

those spiritual things are better not with psychologist / psychiatrist...

the above spell for me is real ... let's wait what others opinion are also fine... cuz i don't think many christian are familiar with levitation spell, cuz it's forbidden in bible...

forbidden and does not exist are 2 different things, and many Christian are unable to deal with advanced sorcery like above.

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post Jan 26 2015, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jan 26 2015, 11:23 AM)
... I can't believe I accidentaly made a white lie ...
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think about this... Judge 14: 4

4 (His parents did not know that this was from the Lord, who was seeking an occasion to confront the Philistines; for at that time they were ruling over Israel.)

-- conclusion ? --
Our GOD is in control. HE can use anything to accomplish anything. In Judge 14:4 HE let Samson to follow his lust / flesh so Samson can confront Philistines.

You are not blundered so badly without realizing...
There are a lot of people that has common sense and does not act like your ex-gf.
Your ex-gf is very paranoid and it is not normal.

The LORD seeks occasion to separate you and your girlfren. I believe it's for your own good and her good as well biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(pehkay @ Jan 26 2015, 09:13 AM)

I did try to tell him that it is nothing new that I haven't seen before in the earlier histories of Pentecostal especially in China. These group of young people do genuinely believe they are free of lust/flesh (according to Spirit)  and stayed together (it is permissible). And ... what a damage it was.
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There are Presbyterian churches that allow gay minister...
Church of Scotland voted to allow LGBT

those what happen when lawyers think "yes / no" - "yes / no" - "yes / no"- "yes / no"- "yes / no"



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