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de1929
post Jan 23 2015, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(kernan.rio @ Jan 23 2015, 02:11 PM)
All those who say knowledge is inferior need to read Hosea 4:6 and Romans 10:1-3

Faith without knowledge is blind.  biggrin.gif
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wait... inferior yes... but i never say without ...

toyota is inferior to lexus, but without toyota i have to walk not a good idea ok... need some sort of discernment here pliz biggrin.gif
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post Jan 23 2015, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jan 23 2015, 02:12 PM)
What is the word of God to you?
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anything that comes out from GOD's mouth. and sure enuf... it's not only bible.

sometimes information as well. e.g. GOD can tell me buy stock AAA cuz tomorrow it will go up.

therefore the information classified as word of GOD.
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post Jan 23 2015, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jan 23 2015, 02:19 PM)
How do you know that was from God's mouth?
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first: let's limit the case just to buy stock AAA. don't mixed up with something like bribing, prosperity... nehhhh.. .that's too wide to contain.

honest answer, it's signature; John 10:27.

why signature important: as i can't explain how is my wife voice, therefore i can't explain to you how is GOD's voice looks like.

-- how can other people know like i know ? --
1. Trust in bible. It's written: My sheeps knows my voice. if you say you cannot hear GOD, i don't believe that because i trust bible more than i trust you biggrin.gif
2. is there any practical approach or simple guideline... yes. the link is below:

http://www.cwgministries.org/Four-Keys-to-Hearing-Gods-Voice

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post Jan 23 2015, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jan 23 2015, 02:41 PM)
My dishonesty was due to my brain switching off. I was cross country biking and parked it at my friend's house to wash it as he has a water jet. Then I took a photo with my smart phone, watsapp to her, saying "I am outside my house cleaning my bike"...the picture was my bike in front of my friend's house gate. Then when I took her to my house, she saw my gate was different. She instinctively became quiet and not happy after that. Later she said to me that I am not 100% honest with her. I thought back, I am puzzled and hit my head as to why I did that??? She is very careful girl, when I dated her, the first few months, she refused to let me pick her up from her house. We had to meet at a petrol station near her house.

When she said no chemistry, it could be a range of reasons. I really dunno. It could be that I could not satisfy her requirements? She wants me to be the provider and pay all the bills if we were to marry next time.  cry.gif I think I am capable of doing that, just that i have no money for my own hobbies. She also complain that I can be calculative - something that I didn't realise about myself. She complain that I am always late for a date..but I time my arrivals, I am only 5 min late. If she really means she has no feelings for me, then well, that can't be help. But i thought we really got a thing going, we call each other pet names.

I suppose i want to try winning her back. No guarantees though. It be easier for me to move on, at least I get no regrets if it doesn't work out.

Greet her morning every day? Some of my friends tell me to give her space...wait a week or so...I really dunno. I am thinking of 3 day gap.

At this stage, its too early to tell if I am able to visit her for CNY. I guess its highly unlikely. I have offered her numerous times to pick her from airport but she refused. She say her co got airport limo to send her. But since she's on a permanent contract now, she probably go on her own expense. The thing about her, is she got a lot of boundaries...it takes time before she can say yes and many rounds before she get comfortable.

On the contrary, who knows, anything can happen, she could have someone else. But then again, i try not to make it not relevant because I am trying to do the best I can, and I know i don't control my externals. I also don't want to think about that...if it is so, so be it, I got to be matured and be happy for her.

About visiting her. Its a country that is quite close to Malaysia, so the time zone is same. Just that the exchange rate really hurts a lot. However, she is in the process of moving..so she be staying at a hotel which i have no idea where it is. to go there to surprise her would be like almost amount to nothing. What if I go there, and wastapp her, hey i am in so and so...then no answer, then i fly or take a bus back. Golly, the exchange rate almost RM3 to 1 on that country.

But sometimes I think its a bit scary. Like she said she doesnt want to have kids, then I managed to talk it over with her, she relented.
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girls need security...

how difficult for you to have let say a big salary. RM10k to RM15k enuf ?
is that good enuf for her ?

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post Jan 23 2015, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jan 23 2015, 02:58 PM)
Doesn't matter. In country she's living in - the exchange rate is RM3 to 1 of that currency. Whatever my pay is, sure die.

Unless I go to that country to work...but she is not sure about us. thats the thing. She doesn't want me to go over there.
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it does matter... are you a girl expert ?
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post Jan 23 2015, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jan 23 2015, 03:41 PM)
Methinks the scriptures vers there is not referring to your stock AAA.

CONTEXT is Salvation y the Messiah
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Tell me which verse prohibits GOD to use different context that what bible scholar already defined. Bible is complete. Everybody agree.

Who are we to limit GOD's word by CONTEXT ?

QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jan 23 2015, 03:41 PM)
Will you go do likewise after Mat27:5  ?    laugh.gif
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this one i don't understand. sorry biggrin.gif

QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jan 23 2015, 03:41 PM)
OTOH how do you know its not from the devil?
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There is no empirical evidence to differentiate GOD's voice and devil's one.

You just have to trust GOD more. sorry don't have best answer than this.

But again, i am not the first one that walk by faith, not by sight... so sure there is one to be role model unless u wanna choose me hehehe...
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post Jan 23 2015, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jan 23 2015, 04:34 PM)
well then maybe I am goner.
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no you are not a goner... you are just down... still have 2 hands and 2 legs right ? nick vujivic has wife... sure you will have one too wub.gif
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post Jan 23 2015, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jan 23 2015, 05:39 PM)
First of all, its not bible scholar who wrote the revelations.  biggrin.gif

CONTEXT is not limiting God.

CONTEXT is understanding what God was trying to reveal in the first place. Otherwise you may get people who do likewise to mat27:5! 

Walking by faith does not mean walking BLINDly. It means walking according to God's revealed promises and totally trusting in Him.
Its not doing something and hoping its God. Thats blind.
Do not put the Lord your God to the test.  Thats what Jesus told the devil when its not the will of God.

Paying bribes is NOT in accordance to the will of God. THAT is from the devil.
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sorry lah like that... i don't abide to context... same like what i told UW... context is not king... GOD is... and then the word of GOD is where i based my faith...

JESUS is the king of the context. That's what i believe... so HIS WORD will overruled any context as necessary for HIS kingdom to be established.

again, ppl like me are not alone... soon or latter the peer pressure will win against whatever CONTEXT everybody put on top of GOD's word

why peer pressure ? cuz the strong one wins... it's the basic law after all...

if CHRIST abide to context then i lost lahh... i gave up and will learn from you all
if CHRIST do anything HE likes, then i win lah... then everybody just have to understand CHRIST the way i think...

we'll see lah in near future... JESUS is KING of kings.
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post Jan 23 2015, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(pehkay @ Jan 23 2015, 06:15 PM)
But what is your point of reference that Jesus is the king of the context?
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well, what i know is JESUS is GOD.

GOD creates everything, including; he creates context.

Therefore i imply that JESUS is the king of the context.
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post Jan 23 2015, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(pehkay @ Jan 23 2015, 06:29 PM)
That I can continue that logic that the Jesus is the Spirit.

The Spirit is also the king of context. Then, based on this:

"Knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of one’s own interpretation; for no prophecy was ever borne by the will of man, but men spoke from God, being borne by the Holy Spirit.” 2 Peter 1:20-21

The Spirit borned man to write the Bible with its context.

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sometimes smart people always gives problem instead of solutions. exactly like this post... this only produce confusion right ?

put these 2 simple rules:

GOD is king,.
HE can say anything he wants.


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post Jan 23 2015, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 23 2015, 06:53 PM)
Do you know what is the meaning of context?
You talk like this because you don't understanding, not because smart people always give problem.
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fine.. suit your self... again the strong one wins... it's not my law, it's just how it works in this world.

There is a hope for christian to be strong is not to be lawyers / teachers ... but to have faith...

bring it on teacher / lawyer.. see who is strong...

aren't we all tired our Christianity does not work as expected ? look at kron_ka...
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post Jan 23 2015, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 23 2015, 07:09 PM)
If a person not qualified to be doctor but try to act as a doctor "try" to give advise base on his own assumption, do you think He will endanger the patient life?

If a person who is not a mechanic try to fix mechanical problem, do you think it will cause the situation to be better or worse?

You understand or not?

This is not a competition to see who is stronger. This is about being responsible with the things you say, Don't simply say things you don't really understand.  shakehead.gif
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GOD's in control. why worry too much.

Why don't you give thanks and pray like this: I thank GOD there is guy that think GOD is able to say anything GOD wants.
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post Jan 23 2015, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 23 2015, 07:40 PM)

Yes God is in control but you don't seem to agree with what God says in the Bible.

Yes God can say anything He wants but you don't seem to understand, He won't contradict his own words in the Bible.
Please google the meaning of contradict. And please do yourself a favour, google also the meaning of context, I suspect you didn't understand what it means.

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don't pattern GOD's word.

GOD reserves right to pick up which verses HE would like to established HIS kingdom in his earth.

about bill wilson case: there is a new bible verse for you teachers: I am that I am... (I is JESUS okay) who are you to contain ME (ME is JESUS okay) ?
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post Jan 23 2015, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 23 2015, 08:48 PM)
Donkeys and mules have been associated with stubbornness since before Christ after being labelled as 'stupid, servile and stubborn' by Ancient Greek writers Homer and Aesop.

de is really stubborn. I know he's not stupid. I don't know why he's offended by the term "Donkey."

He's just stubborn as a donkey.
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You don't need to know. I told you i don't like it.

address me de1929, not donkey, not das eisel whatever stupid language you use.

Help me LORD JESUS, people bullies me here by calling me donkey / das eisel whatever... I believe you will defend me and remove this bullies in JESUS NAME ! ... Tina, in the name of JESUS, don't call me donkey / das eisel, i don't like it and if you insist, my GOD will break you. Amen !

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I don't like donkey cuz it's the one JESUS use to enter jerusalem, fyi.
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jan 23 2015, 09:46 PM)
Which Jesus?

Since you say context is not important and in your own deluded mind, which Jesus?

The mormon Jesus, the JW Jesus, Hollywood Jesus or your own deluded Jesus?
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This one simple... i think yaokb already qualify me on who is my GOD.
Jesus the one died in the cross... and all details already written earlier posts.
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post Jan 23 2015, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 23 2015, 09:16 PM)
Jesus says The Word was God (John 1:1). So it means God does not contradict his words in the Bible because the Bible is his words.
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can you and all lawyers here confirm that you know 100% of GOD's knowledge ? answer is no.

the conclusion is, you know only partial truth... partial truth is not truth at all

therefore use faith for grey areas... because, what else you can propose ?


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post Jan 24 2015, 07:39 AM

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Good morning malaysia !

Go spread the gospel icon_rolleyes.gif ... build churches thumbup.gif

please ask HS approval first. remember HS can say yes for your case, but no for their case. Because GOD always see bigger picture.

Good intention without HS approval is not a blessed journey.

The problem is, 99% of our ministry requires blessing from GOD, especially during spiritual warfare.

Therefore go... join me in the warfare... battle is already going on and there is casualties... of course be realistic lah... but the important reality is JESUS is leading the spiritual warfare... so wanna find JESUS ? find him in the spiritual warfare... HE and his churches are busy.. come..come..come..
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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 23 2015, 11:36 PM)
can you and all lawyers here confirm that you know 100% of GOD's knowledge ? answer is no.

the conclusion is, you know only partial truth... partial truth is not truth at all

therefore use faith for grey areas... because, what else you can propose ?
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 24 2015, 08:06 AM)
Lawyers?  laugh.gif Then you are what? Self claim winner?

The Bible is 100% God's knowledge. I can rest and trust in it. There's no partial truth. Either it's the truth or it's not.

Gray areas? Give example then we talk. Bribe does not fall under gray area. It's written very clear, God is against Bribing.
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read carefully.

You, not bible.
lawyers not bible.

The devils are tricking you all, thinking you know bible = you know GOD... it's wrong... knowing GOD never hit 100%...

there are new knowledge of GOD every morning.

This is the basic spiritual warfare, that is, our bible knowledge never hit 100%, because nobody measures GOD in the labs before.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 24 2015, 08:14 AM)
Why don't you read carefully? I'm not a lawyer.

Whatever new "knowledge" cannot replace or contradict the Bible.
That is something that nobody can dispute.
*The devil is also tricking you, making you think this is about competition about who is better. Using your pride to motivate you.
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when anybody put moral law to hindrance spreading of gospel, you became lawyer.
take it further about bribing. If you became dogmatic bribing is wrong, you became lawyer.

then you are not in rest with calvary church leadership when they procure permit to build bukit jalil church (feel free to convince me bukit jalil is bribe free)
then you are not in rest with all the minister here that bribes authority to minister to anywhere in this earth

it's fine... you stay with your conviction,

me, calvary church leadership, and all minister that do bribing for gospel we have CHRIST that defends us... while all the lawyers washed their hand telling we don't have faith...

in CHRIST there are exceptions, and we called it GOD's grace.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 24 2015, 08:36 AM)
This has nothing to do with hindering the spread of the gospel but acknowledging in your heart and mind that sin is wrong.

God's Grace does not change that.

The purpose of God's grace is to lead people out of sin, not cause anyone to remain in it or to say never mind or even to love sin.
It's there for people who don't know how or don't have the strenght.

Not for people like you to turn it into license to do whatever you want as you so believe when you say "everything is permissible"
If that is the case then killing is also no longer wrong.

Don't talk about what is small sin or big sin, they are all sin.
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David kills right ?



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