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tinarhian
post Nov 7 2014, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(TankerGadget Store @ Nov 7 2014, 12:19 AM)
erm .... u mean iphone or accessories ?
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Do you sell iPad and Macbook Pro?
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post Nov 7 2014, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Nov 7 2014, 10:16 AM)
Tinarhian blunt question: how voluptuous you are ? how curvaceous and sexually attractive you are ?

why related my body and my dress ? oh yes; for a normal guy  drool.gif like me yes related.

consider this gravure model:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoko_Matsugane

If yoko wears dress the shirt, i can confirm slut's dress. because i can see the boops printed on the nylon shirts... i mean look at the bra size... sculptured and molded nizeee  brows.gif ... sorry slut's dress.

if you are "sorry to say" fat, cubby and old aunty2x body style, lagging, not firm, not fit ... fat here and there... yeah.... not slut's dress.

if you are in between then how ?.... ask HS  biggrin.gif ... seriously with love and kindness .. ask HS
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Uhm, I think this is really inappropriate. You remind me of the guy that keep staring at me in church.

I just pretended to smile back, but actually I was like this.

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I am definitely not skinny and chubby. So, I settled for "in between".

QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Nov 7 2014, 10:26 AM)
I actually don't see anything wrong with girls dress nice on a Sunday church. The church workers don't have to say directly if they felt the people aren't dress right. If they see that as a problem, they could blast the air cond at full power so everyone would be forced to wear a few layers.
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They can blast the aircon at full power, hehe, I'm used to cold weather, its the Malaysian weather that I cannot stand.



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post Nov 7 2014, 10:44 PM

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I want to know more about fasting while praying. Is it necessary to fast and pray?


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post Nov 7 2014, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Nov 7 2014, 11:08 PM)
exactly... when a guy look at woman and "keep staring", most likely he entertain porn thoughts in his mind... it's reality, like it or not, most guy does fantasizing. perhaps only general fahmy n UW immune to this diseases...  brows.gif

so what tinaarhian should do ? nothing. who cares about the guy... it's the guy problem with his mind, not tinaarhian problem... but if tina go to "old-school church", too bad tina got lambast cuz of inappropriate dressing.

what's the purpose of my message:
1. i know my message is vulgar and may sound inappropriate
2. tina it is true that man can entertain porn thoughts buy "keep staring" at tinahartian. I am sorry you are not comfortable. But i hope other sister here can have more understanding about guy and guy's weakness points.
3. decky "curvaceous" facilitate pornography... except for blind people, blinded since born.
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Well, girls look at guys too, without the "pornographic thoughts".

I don't think all guys are immune, they just know how to suppress their (lustful) thoughts into something positive.

I understand a guy's POV. Its hard to control the flow of blood for two of the most vital organs in the male body. Its either up or down. You can't have both ways. Simple science. laugh.gif

But 1 Corinthians 6:18 said, "18Flee immorality. Every other sin that a man commits is outside the body, but the immoral man sins against his own body. 19Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own? 20For you have been bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body".

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post Nov 7 2014, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Nov 7 2014, 11:38 PM)
Thanks for understanding the guys  smile.gif

take it to the next level, when you get married, i understand you know the importance to please your husband in the bed, which is good for a healthy family.

when you are looking for a soul mate, make sure the guy is mature enough to discuss about this pornographic issues.... meaning if the guy say: aiyoo... nonsense lah such thing... i just run from problem ... then you know lah whether he is hypocrites or he simply don't have the knowledge.

yeah.. i am not so worry about you  notworthy.gif ... but the guy you gonna married..  wink.gif yes
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Sure no prob. Oh, I'm not worried bout that either. rolleyes.gif

A women cannot stop men from staring. Facts of life. I don't believe in running away from a problem or a difficult situation. He just need to submit his will to Holy Spirit.

I think this prayer helps too.

"Dear Heavenly Father, I can't deal with lust apart from you. Please forgive me and cleanse me from my sin. And please replace my lustful desires with Your desires for my life, so that I can glorify You in everything I do. Thank You. In Jesus' name, Amen"




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post Nov 8 2014, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Nov 8 2014, 12:08 AM)
tqvm.. i appreciate your input.

Now we can discuss other things: family.

As devil attackes family through pornography, are you aware that devil attack family through financial stability as well ?

look at economic stability in malaysia ? this year is difficult compared to last year
look at house price ? go up
look how fresh graduate can buy house ? more difficult than previous generation
look at consumer goods price ? always up + GST next year.

I know GOD is protecting us, Hallelujah !
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I'm blessed that God have provided enough for me. I'm grateful that I don't have any financial debts or worries.

This is a good article to read. http://www.gotquestions.org/managing-finances.html

Romans 13:1-7

Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience.

I think this verse for me, honestly, is hard to accept given the current situation. But who are we to judge God's sovereignty and purpose in life? We really need God's strength to overcome all this heavy burden.


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post Nov 8 2014, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Nov 8 2014, 08:05 AM)
Galatian 5 say when you are free, you are free indeed. But need to be balance with obedience, to the right person. How do you know the right person ? before answering your question, let see the website below.

http://fourtemperaments.com/Description.htm

my question, which profile you are ?

mine: i am choleric melancholic type personality, so i easily blend and conect with phlegmatic leader.

I have been with choleric leader and i just put distance and leave him. Me and him destroying each other, he cursed me with disobedience, i blur... so i just leave. simple.

but as the church bigger, people mixed and campor campor.. like it or not, it's not personality the issues, but how you handle different people.

Same knowledge above, gives you enough tool to handle different person. At the end, you can be free, as galatian 5 say when you are free, you are free indeed.

is the question: how do you know the right person still relevant ? i don't think so.

last but not least: check with HS. HS will give you advise when to silent, and when to express your emotion.
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I would say that I'm between Choleric and Sanguine.

The Choleric does not require as much sleep as the other temperaments so their activity seems endless But I do need minimum 8 hours sleep! lel.

Sanguines usually dress according to current fashion - I totally agree. lel.

Campor campor? What's that?

Oh I think I will know if the person is right or not.

QUOTE(pehkay @ Nov 8 2014, 08:15 AM)
Hey tina,

Fasting is a spontaneous expression as man receives a great responsibility before God. At such a time, man will spontaneously fast. The experiences in our human life also substantiate this point. Often when we encounter an important matter (e.g. child hospitalized etc.) in the course of our human living, we become unable to eat. True, some matters can make us happy and cause us to eat more, but other matters may press us to a point that we simply cannot eat. Because the matter which we encounter is so great and the responsibility so heavy, we spontaneously lose our appetite for food. However, when the matter is taken care of and the responsibility discharged, we feel relieved and our appetite returns for normal eating. Likewise, as we receive a great matter from God, we are so burdened within that we fast without purposing to do so.

Yet, biggrin.gif we cannot find in the Gospels that the Lord Jesus frequently fasted. So, fasting is NOT a trifling matter. Only the hypocritical Pharisees would say that they fasted twice a week. They considered fasting very common. In the Old Testament, the prophet Isaiah severely rebuked such fasting. Fasting is not a religious form, nor a superstitious requirement. The fasting in prayer which God accepts occurs when one receives a commission from God which is very great. Because he loves God and cares so much for His purpose, he is willing to give up his right to legitimate enjoyment. In that instance, such a person would spontaneously fast.

On the one hand, a Christian should not fast lightly, but on the other hand, he should have some experiences of fasting in his or her lifetime. If a Christian has never fasted, there is certainly something wrong with him. Either God has never committed any matter to him, or he has refused God’s commission. If you have never sensed that there is a great responsibility coming from God to you, it simply means that you have never indicated to God with a firm attitude that you want His will and want to stand on His side. You regard the things of God as unimportant. Whether the gospel is preached or not, and whether or not sinners are saved are of no consequence to you. After all, you have already prayed for them. So after your prayer, you are still able to eat and drink in merriment.

Hope this short [there are still other points] help you biggrin.gif

In gist, real fasting in prayer is this: because a person loves God, lives before God, and touches God’s heart, the Spirit of God will heavily burden him with one thing that God desires to do. He will become burdened to such an extent that he can neither eat nor drink. Then he will spontaneously fast and go before God to pray.
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That helps a lot. Thanks.
Yeah, I have fasted before but that's only during my Uni days when I was preparing for my major exams.

QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Nov 8 2014, 10:04 AM)
You sure? I saw them did that at a melbourne church in winter. Blast air cond at full strength, even japanese guy (one of my brother housemate) cannot stand it.
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You should go to Europe in December, where the temperature drops to minus 2 degrees. If the temperature is 10 degrees and below, I cannot stand it. I would become a popsicle.



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post Nov 9 2014, 01:41 PM

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God is a respector of no one. - So it mean that God love every one of us irrespective of our race and background? That he respect all of us and respect nobody?

So God is also not bias and is not racially prejudice because He loves all of us.
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post Nov 11 2014, 10:58 PM

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I got tattoo on my shoulder and ankle. Not so obvious unless you are staring close enough to see it. lel.
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post Nov 11 2014, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Nov 11 2014, 09:36 PM)
by right it is forbidden........there is a scripture in the bible that stated that piercing something on our body is sin
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Where in the Bible? Please show. Anyway, I'm planning to remove it in December. Laser tattoo removal. hehe..
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post Nov 12 2014, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Nov 11 2014, 11:55 PM)
If wearing wool and cotton weaved together is a sin, that means eating dairy and meat together is a sin too.

Piercings and tattoos had heavy connections to pagan rituals. Same are with eating rats and pork and offerings.
Tattooing ritualistic patterns is of course not advised.
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In the Old Testament book of Leviticus did say that eating pork is unclean. I can't remember where but its there. blush.gif

But in the New Testament, when Jesus Christ died on the cross to pay for our sins, some of the Old laws are not carried over. So, its ok to eat pork.

1 Timothy 4:1-5 New International Version (NIV)

4 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 2 Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. 3 They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth. 4 For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5 because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer.


I mean, Bak Kut Teh is such an amazing culinary invention. So tender and yummy..

QUOTE(pehkay @ Nov 12 2014, 05:34 PM)
hmm.gif I don't know .... <thinking> maybe I didn't made it clear enough. So I will "sacrifice" you biggrin.gif on the altar lar (forgive me).  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

Most of the questions asked ... is in the principle of the law or the Old Testament way. Can I wear "mixed" clothing? Can I have tattoo? Should I smoke? Should I practice Sabbath or not? Etc.

The principle of the law is you want someone human or something to tell you what to do steps by steps. Man likes to have clear instructions from the Bible concerning everything he does. If the Bible tells us what to do step by step, all we have to do is to act accordingly in a simple way. This is keeping the law.

By walking according to these hundreds and thousands of items of the law, a man becomes clear what is right and what is wrong, what is good and what is evil. He also becomes clear concerning the way he should take. This is the law. It is lifeless. Once a man begins to walk according to this dead law, he can put God aside and ignore Him.

However, God wants direct fellowship with us. He wants us to receive His revelation and then act according to His revelation. If we do not fellowship with Him, the Spirit will have no outlet for His work.

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In the Old Testament, people put on earrings in order to beautify themselves. So, spiritually, earring signifies self-beautification according to this age. Today’s culture promotes self-beautification. Men and women spend a great deal of money on items used to beautify themselves. Self-beautification leads to idolatry.

Paul says we need to "put on Christ". To put on Christ is to clothe ourselves with Christ. Whenever we clothe ourselves in a certain way, we indicate that we intend to live in that way. In like manner, to put on Christ means that we live by Christ, in Christ, and with Christ. In particular, it means that we live out Christ. Christ becomes the expression of our living. Immediately after we have been put into Christ and have entered into an organic union with Him, we need to live Christ, to put Christ on in our living. Day by day, we need to be clothed with Christ and express Him as we live in Him, by Him, and with Him.

Experientially, we are experiencing Christ in every aspect of our daily life, for example, in the clothes we wear, in the way we cut our hair, and in our attitudes. In everything, great or small, we need to experience Christ. In wearing shoes, in cutting our hair, and even in expressing our attitudes, we should have Christ.

So, the question you will be asking, does the Lord within you as you fellowship with Him, wear the earring with you? Do you have peace within? Is He one with you in this matter?
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I think its alright for women (and men) to wear nice clothes, make-up, etc. As long as we wear modestly and do not spend too much time and money on self beautification, is fine with me.

1 Timothy 2:9-10

9 I also want the women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, adorning themselves, not with elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, 10 but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God.


There goes my LV, Dior and Kate Spade.. sad.gif


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post Nov 12 2014, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Nov 12 2014, 10:13 PM)
You rich young lady  laugh.gif
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Not that rich, some kind guys "donated" it to me. Once I had so many shoes, I forgotten that some are still brand new and unopened. So, I gave away some. hehe.
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post Nov 12 2014, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Nov 12 2014, 10:21 PM)
donation or love gift to pursue you?  laugh.gif
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Why not both? hehe..


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post Nov 12 2014, 10:42 PM

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Ok ok enough of me.

Today I lost my best friend for 10 years because she don't like me being a Christian. I'm devastated. How could she do this to me?

She's my tattoo and clubbing buddy. Of course now, I, er, stop frequenting clubs anymore. hehe...
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Nov 12 2014, 10:49 PM)
I actually face almost the exact thing when I become christian about 16 years ago. I have this best friend during form 4 and form 5. But after form 5, we are still keep some friendship although not as close but when i become christian during diploma and 'argue' with him in email related to religion, the good old friendship gone just like that. Now already 16 years later, actually I still miss my old friendship with him. I try to message him in facebook but seem like no response.
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Sorry to hear that. I guess in our predicament, we can't choose between unbelieving friends and God. Wah, at least you still can message you friend in FB, my best friend block me in FB. sad.gif

I mean, its not like I ask my friend to become a Christian too.

I told her that being a Christian mean I cannot hang out with her going to pubs / clubs anymore. No more of those hedonistic lifestyle. So she can't accept that.

No more tattoo, piercing, etc...Told her my body is sacred. Now belong to Jesus.

She said I'm just faking it. Uh, that really hurt my feelings. I'm praying and reading bible verses everyday, why would I fake that? shakehead.gif


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post Nov 13 2014, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Nov 13 2014, 12:47 AM)
doh.gif No, that's not what it means. Read 1 Peter 3:3.

You can use your LV, or Dior or whatever.
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QUOTE(de1929 @ Nov 13 2014, 07:53 AM)
Hi Tina, there are many truth i would like to share:
1. You pay the price for declaring you are christian. there is a reward for that.
2. You don't know the freedom like me or UW, therefore based on your best knowledge, best intention, genuine faith, you say something that make your frenship gone.
3. If carl lenz hillonsg nyc open church in KL, pretty much you and your fren can go to carl lenz church. your reason: hey, may pastor has tatoo... well it's only imagination: unless you stay in New York. Here is malaysia.
4. GOD's in control. GOD know what best for you.
5. Just pray, and better ask your cell group to pray for your fren so soon or later she can be like you. Actually somebody pray for you in the past. You probably don't know. It is impossible somebody like you can be saved simply because you google... there is a load of spiritual warfare that prevent somebody to know Christ, and somebody intercede for you. They won, you receive Christ. Now you can continue the legacy.
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Its a miracle that someone actually prayed for me. Wow, God's grace is really unlimited!

The battle is not over yet. Its still a long journey for me. I need HS to guide me.

QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Nov 13 2014, 11:08 AM)
I am rather the opposite. Most of my friends are unbelievers except one special person I know who is a christian.

Reason being? I felt betrayed by my christian peers. Like the church I am currently attending for 6 blasting years not even one friend I can trust. My previous church of 6 years, not even one person kept in touch. When I moved from one cg to another, because the cg leader moved his cg to wednesday which was inconvenient to me, the previous cg leader don't even bother to say hi when he see me at church. Some of the church people are so fake, I know them for so many years, invite them for some stuff, they just ffk me. Its not even to decline my invitation ! Instead they say, i will come lah, but when i go there, i kena ffk. After i confront these people why you do this to me? Then they start to reveal a long laundry list at me, about why they have problem with me.

Not like my unbeliever friends. If they have open house, they will invite right away. I have 20 years since childhood/kindergarden friendship with some of my unbeliever best friends. They got YEE HEI, when they say they do this, they will do it. Not like the christians at my church, they just promise me something, and then next day, they pull out their promise and give me a long laundry list of complains.

Some of my unbelieving friends even invite me to their house, share with me their food stuff, even give me gift bags of expensive food stuff to bring back to my family. Not like the hospitality i get from my church peers. Like my youth church, they play so much politics at me. Then last time when they don't have enough quorom, they invite me to their christmas party, and ask me to pay RM60 fee. Then when I paid, go there, sit there like statue, they totally ignored me. When they got their quorom, they just treat you like you are nothing. Neh, that Cheras Tmn Billion church. Crap church.
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Wow, that's really bad! What's ffk? I only know fck. Oopps!

That's really how some people are. I met Christians like that too but I just ignored them.

Well, not everybody is perfect. We are bound to have all kind of characters in church.

QUOTE(de1929 @ Nov 13 2014, 11:23 AM)
wanna drink beer with me ? beer factory at setia walk is ok2x price... Tina ur welcome to come too...
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post Nov 13 2014, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Nov 13 2014, 01:27 PM)
I have unbeliever friends that are triad gangsters, yet they have more loyalty and integrity than those whom i met at church. At least they are forthright honest about who they are. Unlike those at church who profess righteosness but I see before my eyes, they bully other weak minded christians and socially outcast them. Some of these joker christians are born into christian families.
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Sometimes I think unbeliever friends are more dependable compared to those Christians fellows. They do not judge and back stab you as well. Well, then again, I'm just saying from my experience. Of course not all Christians are like that.

I was told by someone that there's a local church in PJ / Damansara that practices double standard on its members and non-members. Don't ask me the name coz I don't want any trouble. lel.



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post Nov 14 2014, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Nov 14 2014, 07:27 AM)
tina surprise ? are you concern i am not christian enuf for you  brows.gif
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I thought Christians guy are decent and don't drink. rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 14 2014, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Nov 14 2014, 08:40 PM)
mine and other people may have different mindset. This issue are sensitive fyi

i am more les like carl lentz
tatoo ok, but i don't have tatoo to be honest. but if i want to do tatoo, i know GOD will not condemn me
ear rings ok, same reason like above
going pub ok, same reason like above
drink beer / liquor ok, same reason like above
listen to worldly music ok, watch movie ok, same reason like above
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I'm just kidding. hehe..

So you are saying that you are a liberal thinker, yes?

I'm sure some pastors frowned upon its church goers who do all of the above. So, when we are in church, do we pretend to be somebody that we are not so that people won't misjudge us?

I sure don't want to be like that coz I want to portray my true self and at the same time be wary of others lest they judge me for a harlot. sweat.gif
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So today I attended a cell group, it was ok, a lot of seniors around. I was the youngest person there. lel.

Majority are married, only a few are not. So, we mingled and shared the Gospel. They seem to be quite friendly and so far very receptive to a newcomer. hehe..

I didn't notice any bald pastor / guy like "The General" mentioned here, so I'm safe. thumbup.gif

The awkward part was I was too dress-up for the occasion. But its ok, they are not going to condemn me. (yet) laugh.gif

The food was so nice! We got fried rice, sticky noodles, some roti canai and triple layer pumpkin spice pie for dessert. drool.gif

So far so good, I'm happy with that.



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