liberal thinker sounds like atheism to me hahaha... but i prefered you called me joseph prince follower lah, simpler. i do learn from joel osteen and many preacher that show same values.

when you go to church, try to go to church that you have insider contact, so you will not be alienated.

if you "shopping" for churches, it's better to pretend to be somebody. same like entering new office, keep it low profile. It's only temporary.

maybe the guy patched up his hair cuz pretty lady is coming....       

ooo you talked a lot ? that's why u lost ur clubbing fren rite imho... yes this church is new environment, better brush up some church vocabs first before speaking. cuz usually once you earned "a label", it's hard to remove...

find ally ? my suggestion... analyze for 3 months up to 1 year. no need to rush.

Ha I did mention Jean.

Just remember if anyone give you the unapproved look, Jesus is still on your side. 

cuz you didn't tell her you like Carl Lenz ? play chess little bit lah sister... use carl lenz as excuse 

Sometimes, It's good to know old worship songs like hymns. To have varieties.

I've come to the point, I think I know most of the contemporary Songs and many older Worship Songs.

In fact I've left the secular songs industry for many years because I find Christian contemporary music is so much better if not in par in terms of quality in sound and lyrics.

Here's are 2 examples, which I'm currently listening to.



You should have told her, you just came out and repented from triad female gangsters and see the look of expression on her face, lol. 

true lah... just say o..o... ya..ya.. ya.. and ignore it... next time he ask keep doing it o..oo.. yaya thing... then maybe one day you can share 2 things:
1. german laser is expensive (1st bullet)
2. carl lenz (final bullet)

i believe u can manage this issue... simple lah..

last not least sorry for being mean  typing takes time, talking faster... that time was sleepy already (excuse maaaAaaa...........)

relax lah dude... that's what happen if you study / grow in military / dictatorship christian. it's a good virtue, but simply not for everybody, not for you either. so relax...

God say thou shall not judge, if they judge you because you had a tattoo, then you might want to look for another church?

cheerleader ? aiyoo... i am the spy lahh... not cheerleader     
Is the CG belong to a big church ?
did the guys / uncles keep staring at you ?

Kinda sad, these type of leaders lack patience. Still very much under the law of the OT.
They're not free sons and daughter but bondage again to fear like servants.

Not all Christian leaders are like that.

God looks look first at the heart of the person not at what tattoo you have. These external things matters very little.

I use to attend a smaller Church, one of my good friend, Worship leader had tattoo on upper half of his body. He's from East Malaysia.

That was because of his younger day I think he was involve in gangsters, didn't remove it but God used Him and today He's sort of like a leader of leaders of worship leader.

IMO, Whenever Christians lives a powerless Salvation life, they have nothing much but to depend on God's law as way to guide and that produces legalism.

Because If He knew Jesus, Jesus would never condemn even the ungodly.

Glad you have a higher perspective. We go to Church to meet God, not lookup to Man who has flaws.

what church CG is this?

this CG elder seems harsh and legalistic ya. But why don't to meet up and discuss first since u also plan to get it remove?

CG leader sure jeles 

I see. IMO the issue could be not just about the tattoo. I might not fully understand and know in details the conversation between you and elder but I think the way you responded to that talk invitation by saying so ("stop judging me and leave me alone") is not the way it should be.  

Perhaps the fear make you afraid to meet the elder?

ya. for him, he should have talk about it and explain to you face to face in the first place also. Surely not via texting.

If it's PBC or PJEFC, I'd recommend bringing it up to the pastors. If you've presented what happened accurately, I don't see any reason as to why they should've treated you like that.
Personally, I have no problems with tattoos and I don't think scripture says anything against it; it's simply a Malaysian cultural thing that found its way into Christianity. Same like drinking (although the bible forbids being drunk), when I told my friend from UK about how we Malaysians see drinking as taboo among Christians, he was surprised because in the UK, even the great theologians of old had no issue going to bars.

Smoking as well. I believe it's bad and unhealthy, but to say that God forbids it by his word requires strong scriptural proof, which I think no one offers.
Of course, it gets more complicated IF you're a leader...

As a future healthcare professional, yes smoking is terrible. But then again, so is eating a big mac. Both also shortening lifespan. One's worst than the other though.

So don't smoke; but if you have a brother who's a smoker, accept him as he is.

still a recipe for atherosclerosis