After reading Bear Bear reply, i can only deduce he belongs to one of the 2 categories :

1. The Ultimate Troll, just to provide an entertainment to this forum. He is truly a legend in this , a Legendary Icon here, who will be remembered forever.

2. The Ultimate Loser, who somehow wishes to get at least a Volkswagen quality yet yearning to pay only a Perodua price .

If he belongs to category number 2, I feel sad for him .

This post has been edited by cunt: Nov 15 2014, 07:58 PM

My advice to you is to get a property within your means as soon as possible especially as your 1st house ( not for investment purpose ) . I do agree market is slowing now but if you sincerely hope there is a property bubble in the future in Malaysia, I would say you are quite naive . You are hoping for a miracle to happen only.

To share with you, most of my friends who are working 1 to 3 years only after degree graduation already bought a property . Most of them are only earning in the range of RM3k to RM5k . At that moment , they could not get the loans with the salary they have , most of them borrowed the loan using 2 peoples name. They can easily get a RM400k to RM500k of property.

On the other hand, there is 1 type of friends that I have right now who are still searching for house. Whatever type of property he also say something bad , be it location , price and bla bla . Even though he has at least Rm100k at hand for only 3 years plus working, still searching for house .

One more thing, BBW, you have absolutely no idea there are plenty of young malaysians (late twenties) who have tons of cash at hand have yet to purchase a house . When the price is corrected , you have to compete with these guys.

I already said " buy with your means". I somehow agreed property price has been speculated . As long as you buy with your means, whether the property price has been speculated or not , its pretty much irrelevant. Let say you buy a house now, whatever price you can afford . Then in 2017 , the value is down for 20 % . Till the day you retire , you still keep the house .
People goreng other properties till RM 100 million , so what ? Related to you ?

Deep down . you want a BMW with a Proton Price .
Deep down, you are just a human, who wish the property is always in the upward thrend after you have bought . This simply because you cant afford now . you wish bubble to happen.

This is because the holding power of the majority owners is very strong, thus reducing the price is a big no no . Same goes to the cash rich developers .

To bear bear, the price is already speculated, should not buy or cannot afford to buy . we dont know, only he knows.

This is because the holding power of the majority owners is very strong, thus reducing the price is a big no no . Same goes to the cash rich developers .

To bear bear, the price is already speculated, should not buy or cannot afford to buy . we dont know, only he knows.

This is because the holding power of the majority owners is very strong, thus reducing the price is a big no no . Same goes to the cash rich developers .

To bear bear, the price is already speculated, should not buy or cannot afford to buy . we dont know, only he knows.

Even Sa Prop said the same thing . Buy within your means .
Buy for own stay, price up , price down, its no difference for you. Till the day you retire, the house still belongs to you .
40 years later, people wanna goreng till RM 100 million also unrelated to you .

Next year , Bear bear wont buy one, thrust me on this .

this bear bear very stubborn one, He basically has no understanding of what is

1. Buy within your means.
2. Buy small then change to big one later when financially stable
3. Property flippers are not the biggest culprit here, but his own. a.k.a want a prime area with 20 years ago punya price tag. what the hell?

This post has been edited by cunt: Nov 15 2014, 09:23 PM

I am not new, joined 2011 , much more senior than you in lowyat , late twenties, not dupe, just cannot tahan already after reading so much about you .

1. Bubble or property crash does not good to Malaysia, Government is trying to stable the market. Once its stable, the price is only gonna be upward .

2. as I have said , you have no idea how many cash others have . The ones that I know of, are still not even owning property yet . They are the one who is gonna push the price to even a high level in few years time .

In bear bears mind, majority property owners are flippers, then cannot hold for long . Must faz faz sell within 5 years to gain huge profit .

Like it or not, your "definition" of high/inflated price is here to stay. You are contracting yourself , you admit our income is increasing and plus the fact that Ringgit value is getting lesser, then no way to go back to 20 years ago. Yet why no buy one for ( buy within your means ) ?

Lets say you save RM500k at the age of 40 year ( with no house ) and have kids, will your fork out the money for you kids to buy a house ? or burn the money ? Price again is going to increase again . You are indirectly helping the price to be pushed up .

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I am not new, joined 2011 , much more senior than you in lowyat , late twenties, not dupe, just cannot tahan already after reading so much about you .

got wrong or not? want i said? why you address about the other BBb forumers trolling one?

1. Bubble or property crash does not good to Malaysia, Government is trying to stable the market. Once its stable, the price is only gonna be upward .

then the government measures are to deter speculators which are many in the market WHICH ARE MADE OUT OF WORKERS CLASS LIKE YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS right?

with the slow down, you expect price to go up and demonstrate to us that you many speculators have high holding power? most of the time, you potential buyers have more holding power than you, especially those who bought ur units, they taking the who of your house price, the cost of the same and your expected profit..(the other dumb BBB, dont assume it include bros like Zuiko and Manu and etc)

2. as I have said , you have no idea how many cash others have . The ones that I know of, are still not even owning property yet . They are the one who is gonna push the price to even a high level in few years time .

the cash buyers are going to buy the inflated market meh? if there are such cahs buyers, why do we still will slow down in price? vacant units for more than 1 year? Singapore, CHina , USA proeprty burst and correction?

our Malaysia different one? we malaysia proeprty all increase price only? no drop? negroes area drop what?

ehh.. i consider ok or not? to comment as a guy who never buy properties? the BBB not doing a good job right? cant rebut, troll only.. and personal attack, TS worse, no backbone one, knn saw some few fella rich ppl backbone also gone....

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Malaysia Gov already planned PRIMA for you, just that you don't want . deep down, say no class, harder to re-sell later . You always mentioned RM400k to RM700k. You yearn this range of properties yet cant afford to buy .

This is your biggest flaw in your mentality . There are plenty of RM100k till RM300k which I think you can buy easily . You will then accuse "the non-exist flippers" to "let" you stay in such house. You want the RM400K till RM700K

If you are smart like them who bought years ago. you already owned one when it was 200k when launched.

Your biggest problem is cannot comprehend what "buy within your means" is . Thus blaming others as property flippers .

One day, this bear bear sure regret and become a property goreng-er one . Haters-turn-to-flippers . Confirmed .

You cant beat them, please join them . Always true .

He cant, still dreaming buying at Rm400K now which was RM200k year ago, because all the old properties are not for human to stay one .

Bear Bear is aiming for the relatively new properties . Feel sad for him actually . Mindset problem .

yaya, people cannot afford to buy 10 houses. You cannot buy 10 houses, does not mean others cant .

You cannot be an entrepreneur like Tony of Air Asia , but he can. He is Tony , a billionaire .

You gotta thrust me on this . Even if one day the price dropped 10% to 20 % . I GUARANTEE YOU WONT BUY .

You will think, since already dropped . why no drop further ? This is basic human nature , greedy . You are the most greedy person here. Now i agree with the others , you are not better than the real flippers . At best, equally bad .

He is the Bear Bear here, most (in)famous person here .



100k property - no class, no prime area bla bla bla
200k property - when launched , say expensive , now missed the boat . wish to buy at this price .
300k property - same as above.
400k property - same as above.
500k property - same as above.
600k property - same as above.
700k property - Now aim for this property, hoping to get a reduction of 10% till 20 % , blaming all owners being flippers thus making his life so difficult .

Mindset problem .

Bear bear wont buy one . He always say buy in 2015 . Guarantee he will postpone after GST implentation . Then come here and rant like no body again .

I really feel sorry for you . your comprehension level close to zero . Since when I am preaching of owning lots of property at the same time ? You really have serious comprehension problem.

Deep down, you are jealous of SaProp of owning 10 properties just because you cant. Wake up please. with your 400K budget , go get one with that. Stop dreaming of 700k property . you missed that boat