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 Property Bubble & Its Social Impact V13, LYN famous DDD Vs UUU Thread

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post Nov 6 2014, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 6 2014, 05:26 PM)
that time nvm, we alwayls have you who are higher debt to be with.. why worry..

wait the first 20% drop first..

country sure can get new loans, dun so worry about EPF, maybe a god idea for you and me, they will choose to borrow from aisa country like CHina, Japan, and etc... with theior debt on top of the head, policy will be in their favour..

who knows maybe new populations coming in..
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bearbear, can we do a personal prediction for 2015 ? As in you start a new thread so we can put in our prediction. In the thread, you specify this is not a discussion thread. it is a no reply thread. Just a thread we put in our prediction, and our reasoning for our prediction.

Something like

"Showtime747 predicted the property market will increase by 5%-10% from Nov 2014 - Nov 2015. Super bull run is over. Now back to the normal "inflationary" increase just like previous years before 2008. With the exception that if malaysian economy face some major crisis due to certain reason, when many lose their jobs, then it could trigger a property crash"....something like this

Then you put your own prediction like the above eg "bearbearwong predicted the property market will decrease by 10%-20% from Nov 2014-Nov 2015. Because the demand in 2014 is very low and government's curbing measure is working".....something like this

Anyone who want to participate can join in. Hopefully iceman, huichyr, dern also join in

Then 1 year later, we bump the thread up and laugh at the person who is wrong tongue.gif

If you OK, I let you have the honour to start the thread. You are the most qualified here...
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post Nov 6 2014, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 6 2014, 05:43 PM)
kv property may be is the only investment option for the herd but not for others.

And don't forget what you said "gasap buyer cukup2".
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Why you think the UUU only invest in KL property ? Many of us here invest in stock market all over the world too. I also invest in unit trust, forex, some in FD, PNB products, etc. And my main income is actually from my business

Is that because your imagination all property investors are flippers who borrow up to their nose level only your dream of property market crash will come true ? tongue.gif
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post Nov 6 2014, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 6 2014, 06:00 PM)
Since kv property appreciate tripled in the last 6 years, why still keep your money in unit trust, forex, some in FD, PNB products? Lack of self confidence?
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Student....it is called risk and diversification. This is investment 101 you don't even know doh.gif

Don't put all eggs into 1 basket. Every investment has its risk. I am happy with some high risk products. And some low risk products. And guess what ? My property investment is considered low risk because my MOF is very low. Most have already fully paid.

Of course you wish me all in KV property market. Because you want to see the UUU die. Does my way of investment disappoint you ? brows.gif
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post Nov 6 2014, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(Jagalat @ Nov 6 2014, 06:04 PM)
Great suggestion!!
Looking forward to reading that thread...
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Got to wait for bearbear to start the thread. Without him, no fun
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post Nov 6 2014, 07:21 PM

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bearbearwong

Disappointment for you.....

You cannot fight UMXO lah. Their rice bowl...


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post Nov 6 2014, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(party @ Nov 6 2014, 07:15 PM)
Why you two explain so much to a person who quote and unquote "Keeping cash is a form of investment."  laugh.gif
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Ya I feel very stupid. I was talking to some newbie who don't know anything about investment tongue.gif
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post Nov 6 2014, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 6 2014, 09:11 PM)

admit you keep cash as part of your investment?

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You keep your cash in milo tin mah. No meh ? tongue.gif
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post Nov 6 2014, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Nov 6 2014, 10:05 PM)
Studnt, tell u a sikelat. Onli share dis sikelat v u. I keep cash as investmnt. No risk of prop crash. U dun think onli u know keep cash as investmnt.
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I keep collectible notes and coins. Worth 100 times the value icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 6 2014, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Nov 6 2014, 08:33 PM)
Why bear bear suddenly so emotional even weekend not yet arrive?

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1 reason I can think of is the govt move to put those ptptn borrower who didn't pay their loans into ccris. Guess bbw n student kena ini kali lar....

bbw may be hutang ptptn n now if put in ccris, sure affecting his plan to buy next year....

bbw, it is a dosa if u borrow n not pay back....u in legal line, u should know very well....
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Ya he is very proud of his Ccris. That explain his unusual behaviour during weekdays
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post Nov 6 2014, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(bcpbeancounter @ Nov 6 2014, 11:24 PM)
my son also has clean ccris! rclxms.gif
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Wah ! Can sapu when market crash !
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post Nov 7 2014, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Nov 6 2014, 05:39 PM)
bearbear, can we do a personal prediction for 2015 ? As in you start a new thread so we can put in our prediction. In the thread, you specify this is not a discussion thread. it is a no reply thread. Just a thread we put in our prediction, and our reasoning for our prediction.

Something like

"Showtime747 predicted the property market will increase by 5%-10% from Nov 2014 - Nov 2015. Super bull run is over. Now back to the normal "inflationary" increase just like previous years before 2008. With the exception that if malaysian economy face some major crisis due to certain reason, when many lose their jobs, then it could trigger a property crash"....something like this

Then you put your own prediction like the above eg "bearbearwong predicted the property market will decrease by 10%-20% from Nov 2014-Nov 2015. Because the demand in 2014 is very low and government's curbing measure is working".....something like this

Anyone who want to participate can join in. Hopefully iceman, huichyr, dern also join in

Then 1 year later, we bump the thread up and laugh at the person who is wrong  tongue.gif

If you OK, I let you have the honour to start the thread. You are the most qualified here...
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bearbear, see the above. Start the thread lah. I let you laugh at me 1 year later when market crash 20%. You don't dare meh ?
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post Nov 7 2014, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 7 2014, 12:03 AM)
bro showtime u tension ah? till this level... based on 5-6 years past experience will property dip in prices on risky areas?

what are the optimum market price for subsales now?

higrise? outskirt and mature
landed? outskirt and mature
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bearbear, with current economic environment, no sign of dropping one lah.

Don't shift attention lah tongue.gif

You pick 5 projects. In Seri Kembangan, Kajang, Cheras, Semenyih and KL or anywhere in KV. We get the market price now.

Then you predict how many % these 5 project will decrease. I say increase +5% to +10%. You say -20% ?

Then 1 year later we come back and see who laugh at who

You don't dare meh ? tongue.gif
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post Nov 7 2014, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 7 2014, 12:16 AM)
not bad idea... but increasing as in posted in i property ? and not transacted?

Seri Kembangan - One south, sanderson, univ 360, sk one residence
Kajang- TTDI, puncak saujana , current landed new ones
KL - Mont kiara & KLCC price you know...
Semenyih- those jokers goreng there sure post I property high one 750k, but ghost town lor..
Cheras- GT208, CHeras heights, Altitude 236, Sky vista residency, you city
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You decide the market price from wherever as long as it is reasonable. Like Goodview is RM729k. Green Terrain RM550k. Up to you to decide price from where

You pick the project. Don't need so many. 1 each from the area enough

Then you start the thread. Remember to put in instruction : Thread not for discussion. Only those who want to predict post their prediction. Please don't reply or comment on other people's post etc
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post Nov 7 2014, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 7 2014, 12:27 AM)
what is this...?????? damage control?
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No. If you let people comment, it will be another DDD UUU thread. We keep it clean for prediction only

You put a link to this thread asking them to comment here instead of the prediction thread. Then the prediction thread will be easy to see everyone's prediction. And easy to laugh at them 1 year later tongue.gif
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post Nov 7 2014, 12:32 AM

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We choose

Sri Kembangan - 1 South
Kajang - Goodview
Semenyih - EcoHill
Cheras - Green Terrain
KL - Robertson

You OK ?

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post Nov 7 2014, 12:34 AM

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bearbear, i sleep first. Talk to you tomorrow
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post Nov 7 2014, 06:49 AM

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bearbear, you can start something like this :

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Title : Prediction of Property Market In 2015


THIS IS A NON-REPLY, NON-DISCUSSION THREAD. Please post only your prediction here. Please do not reply, comment, discuss other forummers' posting. WE KEEP THIS THREAD CLEAN AS A REFERENCE ONLY

The thread is an extension of the Property Bubble thread. If you wish to comment, please post all your comments here <--- (give link)

The purpose of this thread is to record down the prediction of the DDD and UUU so that we can revisit our prediction 1 year later in November 2015

Anybody is welcome to post their prediction here. ONLY YOUR PREDICTION !!!! NOT YOUR COMMENT !!!!

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We have randomly chosen 5 projects in Klang Valley as our target project. And we have given a rough market value to these 5 projects. They are

1. Sri Kembangan - 1 South (RMxxx,xxx)
2. Kajang - Goodview Heights (RMxxx,xxx)
3. Semenyih - EcoHill (RMxxx,xxx)
4. Cheras - Green Terrain (RMxxx,xxx)
5. KL Centre - ???  (RMxxx,xxx)

Please change any project you like. I am just suggesting. You decide the final project. And you put in the market price



Then you post your comments

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bearbearwong predicts that in November 2015

Average Price : -20%
Reasons : demand in 2014 is low. Government curbing measure are working.
Then I post after you....

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showtime747 predicts that in November 2015

Average Price : +7.5%
Reasons : super bull run is over. Market back to normal inflation like before. Bubble only will burst if serious economic crisis happens where people lose jobs
Ok boh bearbear ?

Hopefully everyone will give their prediction. Like iceman, Huichyr, dern. But I think iceman have no balls to post lah tongue.gif
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 7 2014, 11:20 AM)
How many times do i need to reiterate? property price will takes years to bottom.
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Yaloh it will take time. The crash will start somewhere. Like in 2015 decrease say -x%, then 2016 -x%, 2017 -x% reach bottom

If you have balls, you could predict in 2015 how many -x% reduction.

But as expected, DDD all talk only. Don't dare to commit a figure. Very simple, because DDD no confidence of what they preach. Deep inside, you all know crash is not going to happen tongue.gif
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post Nov 7 2014, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 7 2014, 03:46 PM)
you the most grow up here, we all can see that...
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Grow up ? Be a man ? How to be a man if you don't even dare to commit a figure how much property price will drop in 2015 ? No balls like iceman ? tongue.gif
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post Nov 7 2014, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 7 2014, 04:07 PM)
Showtime and jolokia keep cash/fd/forex as investment also, it is unfair to them if you omit them from the hall of fame, investment bible.
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Let me teach you my strategy about cash lah.....

I keep only small % cash in FD temporarily to buy dead chicken and for emergency. Most cash is parked inside flexi loan a/c to make the loan to zero. Can withdraw when got investment opportunity

You keep cash for years in milo tin to wait for market crash rclxms.gif How many years have you waited already ? If you still waiting, very soon your cash will be worthless

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