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 Aircon Discussion v2, Continuing on from previous AC topics

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post Mar 3 2015, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(alvin2912 @ Mar 3 2015, 05:10 PM)
I saw yesterday at TBL a model by Electrolux...pretty and compact but plasticky as hell! Felt so flimsy when i tried carrying it.          whistling.gif
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I don't know if Electrolux makes their aircond themselves. I heard from a friend that for their water heater, Pensonic is their OEM
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post Mar 4 2015, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Mar 4 2015, 09:23 PM)
The contractor forget pump in gas is it?
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What I thought too. The last step should be the turning of the valve at the outdoor unit to let the gas into the system
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post Mar 4 2015, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(aztechx @ Mar 4 2015, 07:44 PM)
Using the diagnostic function it states error code f91. Googling that up i came up with:

Abnormality / Protection control = Refrigerantion cycle abnormality
Abnormality Judgement = 2 times occurance within 20 minutes
Emergency operation =
Primary location to verify = • No refrigerant (3-way valve is closed)
Well it was blowing out air. Noticed it wasnt cold but the contractor said it will take some time for the compressor to work and its a hot day. Turned out it didnt change until night time when i turned it on again.
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Yes it takes a while but not that long. You can feel the cold air blowing mere seconds after switching on even on a hot day
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post Mar 4 2015, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(soonlee33 @ Mar 4 2015, 10:58 PM)
Aren't both of them still Mitsubishi ?
Given the affordable price is it worth it if im seeking for non inverter unit
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Depends on your usage. If switch on for a long time get an inverter
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post Mar 4 2015, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(soonlee33 @ Mar 4 2015, 11:04 PM)
Working outstation so going to use vr seldom
Bro can rekemen a non inverter model where the gas won't be obsolete lol
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Panasonic Non Inverter already uses the new gas, R410A now if you want to continue using it long into the future, but the price is at RM1k, so more expensive than the Mitsu. But don't worry too much about using the old R22 gas lah Considering the gazillion aircond units still using it here, rest assured that the supply will still be around for quite a while
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post Mar 5 2015, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(steventan85 @ Mar 5 2015, 09:25 AM)
but non-inverter air con is so yester-year... about RM200+ diff... so why still go for non-inverter nowadays?
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Some might not benefit from the inverter function. As an example,tthose who regularly set their aircond to ice cold, (Below 20c) will not benefit from using inverter as the compressor will run at full power all the time trying to achieve the set temp. For these people they are better off buying non inverters
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post Mar 5 2015, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(steventan85 @ Mar 5 2015, 02:46 PM)
the electricity bill sure sky high if everyday set below 20c... definitely cost more than 150+ just for the aircon...
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Well. My parents (specifically,my mother) likes it cold like that. The aircond in her room is the correct size and provides good cooling. Personally for me i think 23 to 24 c is enough already to feel comfortable. But she likes it to be under 20c. Only then she feels comfy enough. So what to do...
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post Mar 5 2015, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Mar 5 2015, 08:44 PM)
Not really, the key point for inverter work better over non inverter is :
1. duration of usage a day
2. setting of temperature
3. room setup
4. paint used
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True that. But I would say the key points are the temp and duration. Main advantage of inverter is the variable speed compressor. Once it reaches ur set temp it will slow down. So if you set the temp too low,it will take longer to reach that temp, hence the compressor will take longer to slow down. Inverter starts to save electricity once it has slowed down the compressor. For example like me, on average my room temp is about 29c. (I have a clock with temp and humidity reading) I set my aircond at 24c. It can reach that temp in about half an hour. So from that point onwards I save electricity already.
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Mar 5 2015, 09:10 PM)
Seriously inside of non-inverter really empty one
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compare with this, very compact inside of the PCB on top of compressor.
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That is one of the weaknesses of an inverter unit. The printed circuit board (PCB) if not sealed properly can be damaged by moisture or insects,whereas a conventional unit is not prone to that problem. That is why the emptiness of a conventional unit that u mentioned is kinda an added advantage

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post Mar 26 2015, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(anima01 @ Mar 26 2015, 02:07 PM)
i recently installed panasonic inverter S10 & S13RKH..would like to ask expert here..does it suppose to be white gas coming out from vacuum pump during installation process? just wondering does my installer want to waste the refrigerant gas so i need more regular service
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There should not be any gas coming out of the vacuum pump. Coz the function is to vacuum all the air inside the piping prior to getting the gas inside the system
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post Mar 27 2015, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(anima01 @ Mar 26 2015, 08:55 PM)
thank you for your prompt response..as expected they purposedly released the refrigerant..i had an argument with the shop owner because she send the the S13PKH instead of S13RKH..so i guess she did it on purpose..if the air cond run on reduced amount of refrigerant, will it damage my compressor?do u recommend me to top up refrigerant now or wait till the air cond no longer cold?
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If just a bit leaked out don't worry. Coz they have extra gas in the system. Enough for 15m piping

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