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 Faulty Takata Airbags Killing People, Instead of Saving Lives

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jayraptor
post Oct 30 2014, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Oct 27 2014, 09:50 AM)
Dont u guys worry.. Umw will announce not affected malaysian car.. As usual

As for anti proton fans.. U guys dun have to worry as well.. Cause everyone doubt proton airbag will ever deploy also.. (chabutz)
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That applies more to Honta than Toyota. Korean makes not there coz it uses Korean or European airbags, not Japanese. Honta City many airbags while Cerato only 2. So Honta City anyone? As mentioned, the car's frame itself is more important and airbag is there to assist.

Never rely on airbags too much, forgot to wear seatbelt or faulty seatbelt could also get killed by airbag. I prefer cars with 2 airbags enough oledi. I don't want to have that many bombs in my car as airbag is deployed with explosive device blowing air inflating the airbag in just seconds. That kind of force could kill without the airbag straining the passenger limiting from going further front during collision.
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post Nov 1 2014, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Oct 31 2014, 03:52 AM)
Better switch to electric vehicles.

When driving internal combustion engine cars, there is a metal block a few feet from your balls with thousands of explosions happening in it every minute  icon_question.gif
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The worst explosion involving car engines due to never changed engine oil only punched a hole through the engine block. Even that doesn't damage anything else apart from the engine block.

Instead, you use electric vehicles with larger batteries, the risk is much higher than you driving petrol/diesel powered combustion engines. There was an old case where standard 12v car battery exploded due to overcharge. Imagine you sitting on large battery on the floor of your car's chassis crossmember, an explosion would be deadlier.
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post Nov 1 2014, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Nov 1 2014, 01:06 AM)
It is possible. However those cars were involved in an accident or pierced by some heavy metal piece from below (the ride height is quite low on the highway to make it more slippery, but that means stuff on the road is more likely to hit it). The Tesla is armoured from below to protect the battery, so imagine this had happened to a normal car! They did thicken the armour and won't lower the car as much anymore (issued a software update). The fire is also rather slow, not an explosion. You'll have plenty of time getting out of the car if it does indeed happen.

Also petrol cars are much more likely to start a fire, but it happens so often that it's not news. Unlike it is some super car.

It's much more likely to die from alcohol or cigarettes than from terrorism, but people are motr scared of terrorism because that's what is on the news.
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Cars that caught fire either:
1) the wiring has been messed with especially Ah Beng who modified their car to have powerful audio hi-fi system.
2) the car engine's fuel supply line & electrical wiring design are badly located like old BMW that has the fuel supply line passing over the dynamo, when there's leakage, the fuel drops directly on the alternator that a single spark could cause fire. In old Merc C-Class, the insulation soft padding was badly fitted being too close to the engine hot exhaust that it risk catching fire easily as the heat causing it to burn. The padding is light blue in colour separating the engine compartment from passenger compartment.
3) Japanese, Korean cars rarely to never catch fire in accident compared to conti in the old days. If the conti has realised this and changed their mindset to care more on failsafe common sense instead of focus solely on performance, they would have fix this issue.

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post Nov 6 2014, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(nm7 @ Nov 2 2014, 05:11 PM)
yeah.. you're so right..
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in the old days, they don't catch fire...that, or this is actually not made by japanese...
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that's a track car you posted. I am referring common saloon car on the road, stock non-defective everything ori and without modified wiring. Check my list, modified cars especially with tampered wiring not included in safe zone.
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post Nov 15 2014, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Nov 14 2014, 09:43 AM)
this mask does not protect neck and chest, should get an iron man suit instead
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Here, you might want to read this.

https://my.news.yahoo.com/honda-reports-exp...2--finance.html

It has reached here, claiming 1 local woman's life. Still no recall? Anyone still want to buy Honta? New ones got more airbags since they have thin frames with less protection that would cave in easily upon impact. As told many times, passive safety is top priority followed by active safety which is secondary. Not supposed to depend on active safety alone.
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post Nov 15 2014, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(wayfeel @ Nov 15 2014, 01:17 AM)
I hope honda sales will freefall. let ppl buy become cheap cheap biggrin.gif
let the koreans takeover then high competition that will benefit the awaiting customers  flex.gif
Then just hope for a better comeback  biggrin.gif

The value of life can be measured by how many times your soul has been deeply stirred. -Soichiro H
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Any links where I can see the photo of victims? There are 139 injury cases so far with 5 fatalities. How come can't find much info on google? Got cover up or something blocking our access?
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post Nov 29 2014, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(nm7 @ Nov 16 2014, 11:38 AM)
shhhhiiiiaaaaatttt... this is bigger than spygate man..

then CBA-R35 owners can swap for this already...
http://www.ricardo.com/en-GB/Our-Markets/H...sions/Products/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_GT-R#F...ld_Championship
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You put anything unusual in your car, when it gets faulty, there won't be anyone could repair. You'll end up buying brand new having to pay for shipping, high tax and GST. Don't expect the price to be cheap, when it reaches here, it would be double especially this gearbox is not manufactured in Japan but Europe some more. Tax is charge on total sums of price of goods + shipping fee. If Honta City CVT gearbox in 2008 costs RM17k plus labour & fitting close to RM20k. Next year onwards you expect even higher with double tax.

This GTR racing gearbox, how much would it be? RM40-60k nett? Don't forget the technical labour charge and cost of replacing the gearbox of old with new one. No trade in nor discount, you can take home the faulty old gearbox & paying lorry fees if you think they are making money out of it. Most would leave the old gearbox behind as there's no use of it unless you want to sell at kedai besi buruk.
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post Nov 30 2014, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Nov 30 2014, 05:08 PM)
Hey prof.. You are back!!!

No we are not interested in the cost of the GTR gearbox..
All the while the debate was about GTR using F1 gearbox technology as claim by you and your fellow engineer friends.. We are more interested to know is that Nissan lieing to us or F1 lieing.. Everyone knows it will cost a boom for the GTR gearbox.. We need to know who is lieing now..

Thanks..
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The point here is, the GTR is not using normal gearbox used in common cars. Not even in super sports car. Imagine the Fatlady with CVT also can end up with no gearbox after its reel dislocated, now GTR wanted to give 1st of its kind only gearbox, expect the same fate then.

When comes to car ownership, people is more concern on whether they could afford to maintain and own the car be it rich or poor. Even if the person is rich, when he gets bored, he would want to sell off the GTR 1 day and say the gearbox damage, would you buy it second hand from him? FYI, bank loan does not lend you cash for repair mostly and nowadays, they are quite strict that they wanted to check the car condition also. Puspakom won't let you pass if the car can't even move.
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post Dec 9 2014, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(ryder_78 @ Dec 7 2014, 03:36 PM)
Sad. Looks like Honda vehicles in Malaysia are also affected by this Takata air bag. Scary to think the deployment of Takata air bag will launch metal shrapnel that will kill the occupants. Looks like this news is only published in Yahoo and Malaysian Insider. The local media is keeping quiet probably not making this a big issue with the big number of vehicles with Takata air bags.

Car distributors will have to offer recall if this issue blows up. Does anyone have any idea the year of the models which are affected? Year 2000 to 2008 models?
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Honta is known to fight back owners and media that tried to question nor publish their serious offenses. It'll use its huge financial capital to make sure plaintiffs never win any court case yet they could twist the whole story in defamation and counter sue. People will soon forget this killer airbag case. Killer airbag, poor reliability, broken tierods, jammed brakes, faulty gearbox, simulated FC claim, etc all just went quiet. Dirty politics together with effective marketing, the victims would withdraw and keep mouth shut.

 

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