I am not afraid of the prospect chinese wont exist in malaysia anymore heck i even think indians can overtake us in 30 years from now

Sad 2 say it is a chinese disease due 2 high cost or obsession with fortune

Yeah for Chinese to have a kid must spend millions, uni education ,car, hp, sony playstation, amway nutrition, kumon kid education, branded clothes, best milk in the world quality.

For melei, more simpler - uni edu not required, normal milk will do, can makan ord vitamins, main guli or bola sepak. SO much savings.

No wonder cainis are not propagating.

Haha it is true No wonder population shrink and old folks home are thriving there because nobody is going 2 replace them unlike malaysia i got no problem earning less but high quality work life balance hahahaha

actually its also happening in Msia. More cainis are not getting married and even got don't want to have kids.

Recently went CNY, see so many unmarried cousins.

do u still have hope in this country?
if not, do you wish your kids to suffer here?
if you rather your kids to develop their studies or career in other countries, then why did you give birth to them in the first place, since chances are you won't be seeing them when you are dying one day
part of the reasons for chinese reluctant to have children is because their urbanization rate is faster than malays

in the near future malays will decrease on their no of children as well, due to urbanization

for our generation, got kids or no kids also most likely we will die in old folks home, if not in our own house, alone
concept of 养儿防老 is outdated already

My sentiments Heck i won't be surprised another factor was they girls go kahwin angmoh and so the pool is even smaller 4 they guys

Its up to the parent how they can bring up their kids, if one day they old, and their kids not bother to visit them in old folks, something must be really bad in their parenting skills.

In most cases, by the time the parent is so old have to go to old folks home, its the time when they are so old that they suffer from dementia and have to wear pampers until their kids can't take care of them due to high cost and high stress office environment (no time) - not because they don't care.

So even if the parent die alone, their state of dementia is so bad, that they don't even know they are alone.

Coming back to the topic, I wish there be more dating sites with lower cost base. I got feedback from lots of friends who tried LA, tells me the concept works but unfortunately LA offer cut throat prices, really expensive and want to charge at premium upper market.

A friend of mine, who was using LA services, he used all their services, found that the girls he met were all upper class because the price was so high. But he met his wife, when he was buying jewellery for his date, and fell in love with the jeweler sales girl. He told me that he realized that its those below certain wealth class that LA prices out, like his current wife who is a jewellery sales girl.

Asian girls can kahwin the ang moh even face problem, because they aim for citizenship in western ang moh world.

Don't really understand these ang moh liberals, they only want Syrian asylum seekers, Amos Yee type asylum seekers and Asian brides but when it comes to hard working Asian economic migrants that can contribute to their society - they reject.

Coming back to the topic, I wish there be more dating sites with lower cost base. I got feedback from lots of friends who tried LA, tells me the concept works but unfortunately LA offer cut throat prices, really expensive and want to charge at premium upper market.

A friend of mine, who was using LA services, he used all their services, found that the girls he met were all upper class because the price was so high. But he met his wife, when he was buying jewellery for his date, and fell in love with the jeweler sales girl. He told me that he realized that its those below certain wealth class that LA prices out, like his current wife who is a jewellery sales girl.

Went to LA 2 days back and got an offer at RM3500++ for 5 dates. Was impressed with their concepts abs how it works out with quality (guaranteed) people but yet was also impressed with their price! Any other good option could be recommended please?

Decided to make a post here. Hopefully can help people clarify some answers.

This life is about balancing. We are talking about dating angecy.  (Lunch Actually aka LA)
Fixed Price: Standard RM3k for 10 dates. ( take it more or less so this is an average)

Everything we do in our life has risk. Investment on sentiment or money. risk of non success and success. Same goes with Dating Agency. Before we take out the money and invest on this dating, do minimize the risk.

As a girl :-
The girls who signed up for LA, I can't say all but majority are average or below average girls. Let's be honest, guys hope to meet hot girls who are pretty. Do you think the pretty girls willing to fork out RM3k to sign this up? Hell no. Chances are less than getting jackpot. Okay maybe there is handsome and rich guys who want true fairy tale love, there will be plenty of girls surrounding them outdoors by the time, the attractive and/or rich guys won't have time to spend here at LA. Okay maybe it happens that there is guys anti social hence wanna try this dating set up, so of all the girls who have signed this up previously, how long is the waiting list? Okay statistically the chances are very very low. It's still your choice to gamble.

As a guy :-
The guys who signed up for LA, majority of the attractive and/or good girls are ALWAYS surrounded by guys outdoors, left the "unique" ones signed up for LA. More or less even if you get the chance to be together with them, sooner or later will be separated. Why? Because the good girls are always taken or wanna be alone during heart breaking or healing time. Best is when you camp them beside and patiently develop the sentiment. Okay you want to be positive, then this world will be a lot more complicated. Otherwise it's as simple as you don't think about it.

Rationally, we expect the same quality when we talk about same equal matching between guys and girls if we pay the money like that in terms of looks, loyalty and wealth. Sadly it doesn't work like that in our current society and environment.

There is no definite answers here but I hope LA can offer demo or guarantee return for customers who has interest and appreciate this service.
Eg. Pay RM3k for 10 quality dates. if you happened to be matched with a person on your 4th date, the remaining 6 dates of money (60%) will be refund to you. A sum of charge 20% to LA for the commission. 40% absorb if both married. Then I'll say is fair. T&C Apply. I won't talk about t&c much as there is too subjective. (pig without money looking for phoenix with money, frog looking for princess, false personality & attitude information provided by customers, there is always a policy to work this out). As of right now, it's too risky to sign up LA. Sure if you are the person I was mentioning, rich.. careless of risk and anti social, this is one of your many ways to find a partner.

Sorry for the long post.

Hi guys,
Just want to hear from anyone who went or even better, paid for the services of dating agency like Lunch Actually.
Looking for places like this, so if you see any, heard from friends, whatever, anything at all, just post a reply.

I've been to Lunch Actually, at bangsar. 3.5k for unlimited dates in 1 year. Of course since they are the one doing the arrangement, you prob end up less date than you want to, even if you're anything goes.

http://www.yelu.sg/company/141397/lunch-ac...nchrony/reviews

By Desmond - 20 November, 2016
Be careful of the methods that Lunch Actually uses to make money

- When you join their events, sign up a free account at LunchClick or Esynrochology, Lunch Actually will have your number number. They will than call you ask you to go down for their free consultation to make you sign up their expensive package

- Lunch Actually will email or call you say got free coaching. When you go down for the free coaching, Lunch Actually will than try to pester you to sign up for their expensive coaching package

In short - avoid anything to do with Lunch Actually (do not even join their events) so that you do not fall victim to this scam
25 February, 2015
Do NOT join eSynchrony - By Bradpick

1) eSynchrony may seem like a cheaper option to Lunch Actually on the surface. But it is highly possible that you may end up paying just as much or even more per date. Unlike LA packages that goes by number of dates, eSynchrony packages goes by number of months. eSynchrony packages allows unlimited dates per month. The sad truth is, other than your first date, whatever subsequent matches you have approved will NOT be coordinated for you. Since you have paid a lower amount for eSynchrony as compared to Lunch Actually, the customer service level will be lower as well. eSynchrony has an even higher shortage of staff and almost all your queries and requests will not be attended to. LA consultants will still patronize you once in a blue moon though they do not give you any dates. eSynchrony consultants go Missing In Action. After both you and the other party have mutually approved the date (which can be done through clicking a button in the eSynchrony website), just like LA, the eSynchrony consultant is suppose to coordinate a time and book a restaurant for both of you to meet up. Since the consultant goes MIA, you will end up with multiple pending dates waiting for coordination in the system for months till your package expires. Eg, you buy a 4 month package but by the end of the 4th month, you only manage to go for 1 date (with 8 dates pending for coordination). Even though you are free to go on dates, you are not able to contact the consultant to arrange for the other 8 dates during the 4 months when your membership is still active. In the end, one eSynchrony date ends up being more expensive than one Lunch Actually date.

2) Your eSynchrony profile and criteria will probably be tweaked or almost completely changed just like what will happen if you join LA. eSynchrony requires you to do a lengthy personality test where you will then be matched to other members using the computer system. You will be able to see the number of matches immediately after you finish the test. Initially, you will be able to find around 20 to 30 matches. After about 2 months, the number of matches will suddenly shoot up to 300 to 400 overnight. And strangely, you will notice that a lot of the matches are way off the criteria you had set earlier on. Eg, you had set the criteria that you are not open to someone who has been married, someone of a different race or someone much much older than you. You will somehow be matched to all these people overnight. Congratulations, you have got a wild card! You might as well join a free online dating website since eSynchrony works almost exactly like that.

3) eSynchrony buffs up their membership number by retaining the expired members in their system and also people who did not pay for their membership. You are able to sign up an account under eSynchrony and do their personality test without paying. Once completed your profile will be in the system and you will be matched to other members. However, if you didn’t pay, you will not be able to go out on dates as you will not be able to view the profiles and your dates (they can view yours). Back to what was mentioned in point 2, you will find maybe like 20 to 30 matches after doing the personality test. Then you decided to pay for membership where you did the payment online. After paying up, you will get to view all the profiles. However, if you are unlucky, more than 70% of the matches either did not pay for membership or did not renew their membership (although their profile is still in the system). Some of the rest of the 30% may be inactive members and do not log in often. So in the end, you may be left with just 1 or 2 active members whom you are not interested in.

4) eSynchrony calls up existing Lunch Actually members to join them. Possibly those under LA’s “nice or attractive members list”. If these “nice or attractive members” sign up with eSynchrony, most probably, they will end up having their profiles and/or criteria tweaked to match up with more people. If a LA existing member signs up under eSynchrony without ‘invitation’, most likely their profile/criteria will be left alone and remain the same.

5) eSynchrony consultants can go MIA either from the beginning or midway. Most of the time, you will not be able to find any consultant. If you are lucky enough to get one, the consultant will try to arrange a date for you. After you have given her your free dates, the consultant goes missing. You will be left wondering if you should still keep your dates free or make alternative plans.

If you join eSynchrony, either you will end up with no dates at all, or you will reluctantly approve dates you are not really interested in since you have already paid. The percentage of no shows for eSynchrony is also higher than for LA.
Reply by Tay on 24 October, 2016
I wish I had found this before falling victim to esynchrony scam. In my case, after signing up but before paying for membership, the site gave a false glimpse of what membership experience is like by sending seemingly good matches but of course you don't have a chance to get to know them unless you become a member. Once they trapped you, new matches also stopped being sent. The shortlisted matches from the initial list sent to me do not give an answer to my show of interest in meeting them (I suspect that they are either non-members or members that are no longer active). This is a really low and disgusting way to make a buck.

Hi bros,
Thanks for reply... whoa, so many questions.

Ok, disclaimer, I got nothing to do with Lunch Actually, and I dont even want to do free promo for em.
Just a brief description of what they do:
You fork out 3.5k for a 1 year service
You give them a set of description of what you need in your partner, your own stats
They match you up and arrange date in their list of restaurant
You pay your own bill (and if youre guy , you prob pay for the girl as well)
Piap or not thats your own skill I suppose, lol

I didnt sign up yet as I dont have any guarantee that i can even get 2 date per month. They could taichi you and say girl busy arr this and that, thats a possibility.

Back to my questions, does anyone know of any other paid agency like this? I just want to do research before I drop some cash.