Trading safely on Lowyat.NET

• Beware of new signups. You are advised to be cautious with a seller who has just joined Lowyat.NET.
  
• Beware of suspicious pricing/behavior. You are advised to be cautious if the seller prices his goods too low, is unsure of his product specifications, seems to evade questions, refuses to state the origin of his goods. In such a situation, think twice or sleep over it.
  
• Check the Blacklist. Cross-check your seller against the Official Black List 1 and Official Black List 2. Be aware that the Black List is not the be one and end all list for frauds. To be extra safe, you could check the Fraud Alert at lelong.com.my as well.
  
• Check the Successful Trade List. You are advised to check the Succesful Trades List before dealing with anyone.
  
• Talk to the buyer/seller. Find out other topics conducted by him, and ask if there are others who have dealt with him before. Feedback is important.
  
• Prefer safe traders. We have implemented a safe trader feature where genuine buyers/sellers have a tag assigned to them. Membership to this tag is screened and provided at the discretion of LYN admins. Still, you are advised to exercise caution with safe traders as with anyone else.
  
• Don't place too much deposit. Don't let the sellers hold your money whenever possible. RM50 should be enough to prove that you're a serious buyer.

Contributor: Geminist

This post has been edited by Fusion[eX]: Nov 6 2011, 03:50 PM

Guidelines for a safe COD

• Finalize details after a deal is confirmed. Finalize the contact details, meeting place, items, and price before meeting. Do not wait till the point that you're supposed to meet.
  
• Deal at public places. Also, don't take too much money with you. Even if it is not the seller who will rob you, someone else might.
  
• Call your seller. To reduce the chances of getting FFK-ed, call the seller an hour before meeting to remind him. At this point you can also confirm details and track his whereabouts (as to whether he's on his way).
  
• Be punctual. This applies to both parties.
  
• Check the items. Once the has seller arrived, check the items. Ensure that you are provided with everything that was promised. If it's possible, test the item on-the-spot. For mobile phones, here's a guideline:
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  • Check warranty sticker (date issued and make sure there's a SIRIM sticker)
    
  • Check LCD for dead and also bright pixels
    
  • Try making and receiving calls to test the speaker
    
  • Test keypad sensitivity(press one by one)
    
  • Test on/off Button(make sure it's sensitive)
    
  • Try to run some applications
    
  • Try sending and receiving files via bluetooth
    
  • Test camera (snap and save the pic, cover the camera's viewfinder and look at the LCD to make sure you don't see any bright pixels)
    
  • Make sure accessories are original
    
  • Check receipt of purchase (needed for claiming warranty)
    
  • Check the package(make sure it's like what seller told)
    
    
    
• Remember your trader. In case of a dispute later on, it is advisable that you gather as much information of your trader as you can. This includes his appearance, accent, and car make & number plate.

Contributor: vikingw2k

- 18/10/06 added more things to check - vk

This post has been edited by vikingw2k: Mar 20 2008, 02:34 PM

Guidelines for bank transfer confirmation

• Scan the bank-in slip. If the buyer is banking-in with the ATM machine, request that the receipt to be scanned.
• Use email notification. Some online banking services (e.g. Maybank2U) allows the beneficiary email to be entered. If your buyer is using this, request that he enter your email address, so that it is easier to cross-reference his transaction later.

Contributor: gtoracer

i always scanned the bank slip
but some traders said it wasnt needed too much, since they can check wether we bank in the money

agree with Dark Amaterasu,
i think it is nt necessary to scanned the bank slip as it can be checked.

ya me too.
totally agree.
regarding LYN members, people which are buying used phones seem to complaint about their software phone are being upgraded and been sold to LYN members.
the person won't be named.

But if the seller enquires for a scanned copy of the receipt, like me, is mostly for documentation reasons.

I just started trading and I think is better to get the bank slip, but the problem is that buyers normally using eBanking, so how should we get the slip then? Should seller request for the print screen?



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Im wondering if we can actually confirm a person's ID with the number he/she is using since the Government states that every telco user has to register their numbers. Wouldn't that make every deal here con-proof?

Yes, if its through Ebanking, get them to print screen the receipt of transaction.

For me,always cod

Face to Face.....

sometimes COD also have ffker, thanks for those information!!

How to get the 'safe trader' tagged? requirement please....

how bout after bank in to seller ,then the seller din post the thing to me ?? wat can i do for tis ??

This question concerns me too...

I have Dell LCD 17" and im selling it for RM400, used less than a year..
a motherboard brand Asus just bought it few days ago for RM700

anyone interested??

wrong place bro..

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Added on October 8, 2009, 1:46 amjust make police report la..

This post has been edited by vaires: Oct 8 2009, 01:46 AM

so no Safe Trading Tag = Scammer?

Bro,

How to apply for safe trade tag?

everyone seller/buyer should do the thing suggested by mods.
it will help tracking down those mustard (b).

Safe trade tag doesn't guarantee the sellers' credibility, you only hv to do a lot of trading here to apply for one. We, who doesn't bear the safe trade tag doesn't mean we r scammers tho, we just don't see the need to apply for one coz we can deal happily without it.

Sincerely for me,always ask buyer after trade,cod or postage,
whether the item ok or not, until personal warranty expired..

[NOTICE] "Safe Trader" application thread, Do READ the "First Post" before applying

Thx for the info

cod is the best way if near, outstation no choice loh...

COD Is always the best trading system and also extends the good relatioship between traders..

Agreee!!

I thought thought of a great COD place that can be found anywhere and VERY VERY SAFE!!! "BALAI POLIS". Next time is suggest COD, jz propose any balai polis or a police kiosk (notice a lot being set up lately) .Confirm if genuine seller/buyer will go no problem, unless scammer.

What do u guys thinks?

if lik tat, cannot 'minum teh tarik' dulu la...

Most balai polis located near kopitiam 1^^
dun wori, still can drink

ok, cantik la if lik tat

Making police report can work wan meh?
Heard ppl say no use wan...

So hv to deal wif guys dat u trusted lo, i thnk...
I min [bank in transaction resit] nd to upload 1st for confirmation b4 u post ur stuf...
Den upload [postlaju tracking resit] to prove dat seller has oredy post...
Fair and square...
Dun b lazy to upload 1 pic for both sides trusting...

Hi i would like to ask one question.

Let's say if im going to sell a stuff and COD with the buyer.

What are the things should I do ?

For example, should i prepare a paper of the details of the transaction and both the parties sign on it ?

This is the first time im selling a stuff, so any help would be appreciated.

Im juz afraid if later got any problem, then i would not have any evidence to back me up.

Thank you

You don't have gone beyond that extend of preparing transaction agreement. You only need to set a time and place. Make sure its a public place.
If you are curious on the buyer, bring a friend along. Make sure your friend knows kung fu / karate / taekwondo (joking).

The best is to meet up in a public place rather than a remote place.

with safe trade tag is one level up better than without a tag. by referring to the rules and how you can qualify to get safe trade tag ,there is credibility although there is no 100% guarantee one character /behavior may change one day.

suggestion: for trade session ,highlight safe trade tag ID with color before shopper click into one thread topic. basically a color-ID that easy to identify safe trader. thanks!

This post has been edited by rayanne: Dec 8 2010, 05:56 PM

agree

Hi, I'm very very new and I would like some info on how to trade but I am not sure how to even start to post something that I wish to sell.. Can someone please guide me as to where on this site I may find the right info ie. How to post WTS?

u can go to Garage sales which here is the link http://forum.lowyat.net/GarageSales

and from there u can choose what items suitable for which part of forums.

dont forget WTS tag if ur selling items and WTB tag for buying..

Hi,

For email notification, how do we know is it genuine or not ? Maybe buyer input the other account no, and the buyer input the other email address. Is it possible ?

I would like to know this because i would like to have a safe side answer.

Thanks.

How do i post something to sell? I cant do this step

Just check your bank account whether u received the amount they bank in or not.

Go to http://forum.lowyat.net/GarageSales or http://forum.lowyat.net/LYNStreetMart

Then u see which the item u wanna sell is belong to which categories then post in the relevant category.

many trick and tactic will play by conmen too by the way we have to carefully read and also remember google for knowledge if suspected to have something wrong

how to scan a bank slip? nowadays there are so many scams.. i hope everything that i want to buy in here is safe..

u need a scanner. or u can use camera / hp to take photo of the bank slip

thank you for your information

This post has been edited by yuz91alfa: Aug 2 2011, 10:22 PM

bank in to a seller but the item never arrived. the seller also quiet.

This post has been edited by achoi: Dec 13 2012, 01:29 PM

i always ask my buyer to put my phone number in to the interbank transfer , then the bank will send u a sms stated that who send u the money and ur account number will appear in the sms with the amount he/she sent to u

The number will always be the same

If u deal with the same amount of transfer , some times it's a headache for u to find who is who...so better ask them to capture the slip/transaction record

hope this help

what's the best way to cod camera items that's really expensive?

Hi, I am new in WTS. The prospective buyer did not turn up last minutes giving excuse still far way fm meeting location. How to check buyer out to ensure they are genuine buyer?

This post has been edited by L_Lim: Feb 22 2014, 07:13 PM

How should I test if that is a motherboard?

Are we allowed to include link of our facebook page in our selling thread? Anyone?

Hi, newbie here. Hope to learn from the taikor/taiche here.

May I know some examples of suitable places for meetups?