Greetings iwubpreve

First of all, thank you for sharing your expertise with us! i've been following the thread since it was here and now i have a question of my own in need of your expert opinion 

Alright, recently i've been in debate with a fellow friend on the basis of how to determine a project's construction progress.

He was telling me that, base on his observation, most apartments should averagely built up between 1 to 1 1/2 Floor per month for a 30+- floor apartment (Regardless of the building size)

IMO, i think it was a bit of layman to measure progress with that way. But that is the only visual confirmation we can get to check the progress of a project.

so my question will be, what is the proper basis the one can use (As a homeowner or construction personnel) to determine the construction progress? 

Thanks   

hi, sorry for "abandon" this thread for a while.

actually is like the chart below, i try to put a simple chart so u can understand better. below is a chart for structure work. so for a building, we use the plan view and divide into 2 zone, namely zone A & zone B. if bigger site will divide into more zone. so each floor we have zone A and zone B. so horizontal denote as weeks, vertical is level of building. sequence of work is like this, complete level 1 zone A, only move to level 1 zone B. it look like u need 4 week to complete a floor, but in fact every 2 weeks u complete a floor. reason is because u have 2 team of workers. 1 team only do zone A, another do zone B. so level 1 zone A complete, then they move to level 2 zone a. in construction time is money. so have to plan the work within schedule. the chart only display structure. imagine u have all work included, the chart would be very massive and complex. u have facade, architectural work etc and different work might have different sequence. average there would be about 40 trades of work in each project. imagine this chart show 1 trade, put 40 trade inside would be really complicated. but this is important because it help u to plan the work, and at the same time it can be as a reference of claiming extension of time etc.
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on the contrary, lower floor take longer time. it considered podium and a lot of services would be commence at lower level. and also at the beginning lot of planning and coordination require hence take time. main contractor will incorporated all service into 1 drawing to ensure there are fit and no clashing / discrepancy happen.

also car park consist of ramp and also is a heavy loading structure. perhaps they might also do pre-stress concrete slab which also take time.

until the typical apartment unit, things getting faster as everyone familiar with the pace of the work and also typical floor generally is same so they will pick up progress from there

is it normal condo? without special facade? should be within 2 years. from ground work

the years of course can be change. due to some project require longer. therefore when the developer sign SPA with u they will amend it and let u know that this would take more years. so at the end it is abt the agreement between buyer and seller.

as a purchaser, u only have contractual relationship with developer. so how the main con did, u only can complain to developer. of course as purchaser, if u know who is the main con it will help u determine well whether u wanna buy from them as u know which main contractor going to do the work.

the quality actually all depend on how the developer implement their quality plan against main contractor. if the developer is competent enough, different contractor will build the similar quality for project a,b, and c.

depend 1. even developer not good but a responsible main contractor will do it. but it is like chicken and egg thing. so a responsible main contractor will usually be competent but their competent come with a price. so usually they are not the lowest bidder for the project. most of the time, developer wanna maximize profit so they will award to lowest bidder. u know a lot of main contractor that willing to throw the price in order to get the project. at least they need to take care for their company employee. so award to lowest bidder they will usually save cost and save a lot of work

in general u can't expect much if u pay lower price for property

but of course i did see some good developer (high end property) they really honour their purchaser. Selangor Dredging have a lot of come back purchaser. so even after defect liability period they still change the brand new kitchen cabinet to their purchaser. some purchaser take over unit after 2 years also didn't move in. so things spoil and they take initiative to rectify it for free. of course SDB properties is pricey

Yup, developer's QC make a lot of difference.
And, the bigger the developer is, lower quality materials they will be using. QC sometimes also not up to standard.
A developer will only start a project when they can use rm1000 to make rm20000, as part of the money have to channel to government and MO*****.

Well, if you are under the construction line or know the right person, you will know how much profit they can make.
Not to mention big developers does not sell properties, they only speculates the price.
Like diesel price went up, curing time for red bricks were 1 hour, they reduce it to 5 minutes, at the end, price of bricks went up but quality drops.
Cement price went up? No problem, they will prefab the walls, which reduce manpower significantly.
Roof tiles also same, using industrial zinc, 5 days complete few rows compare to using roof tiles, 5 days 1 house.
"Big" developers can "run" away as out of 10 properties being sold, only 1-2 are real buyers buying for own stay.

My uncle is, he already 1 year no job but still can relax.

I mean as consultant u only get 1 subcon to quote? then the price won't be competitive. also alternatively u can call the supplier give u the quotation which they will happily give it to u. for a main contractor, the price should be around 290 per m3. again when u find it cheap u will surprise that there are other can offer even cheaper.