Hi, I want to make some sort of a survey here.

If I were to start a direct anime/manga downloading service for RM10 per month(payable via egold and maybank2u) , maybe 40(types not episodes) types of animes (depends on popular choices) and hosting the latest 4 episodes for each of the anime/manga, WILL ANYONE BE INTERESTED TO JOIN AND PAY? (THeoretically should be 40X4 X 180mb per anime = roughly 30gb)

This service is direct download and will enable users who have difficulty using bittorrent or other filesharing servers to download animes due to various reasons to download normally. The server speed is 100mbps, so theoretically it should be no problem handling 80-90 1mbps streamyx users downloading at full speed (~110kbps) at the same time. I have tried it for 1 year among 11 friends and all managed to reach full speed. The servers are located overseas either france, us or germany, don't worry about latency, I have made sure it is within acceptable range to enable a full speed download.

REMEMBER this is a survey, don't flame me for no apparent reasons. As far as space, server capacity, bandwidth etc I have taken it into account, so if you have constructive suggestions please post but don't take me as a newbie, I have been in hosting business since 2001 and I can manage linux servers just fine.

sorry mods if I posted at the wrong place.

This post has been edited by linkeong: Sep 7 2006, 06:04 PM

Is this legal from a legal perspective? Taken into account the various copyrights, laws, etc?

Using the monthly fee to pay for the license I guess.

There are quite a number of anime direct downloading websites running around for free, so honestly saying i won't be interested in it. Besides it, is it legal?

which site offers direct downloads?how about series?

which site offers direct downloads?how about series?

That is how I "utilize" my sch's 1MBps direct line.


for the thread starter....

something along those two lines

What I mean is unlicensed animes.

haha, i think this will be closed soon.

personally, i won't go for it as i'm fine with bt and irc downloading.
i keep myself up to date with the latest animes, which in this case most of the unlicensed 1, so it's not really a good alternative to pay for tat...
newcomers might welcome the service, but then again with the typical malaysian attitude "need to pay for it?dun want to use it then" u might find it hard to get supporters

You wont get much people. And you even put a price on it? totally wont get much

Hmmm, this kind of business can only fool the noobs but will be flamed vigorously by senior users.

Oh btw, by senior users I mean, some experts in 4chan, for example, tend to destroy websites like this.

This post has been edited by Dark Steno: Sep 7 2006, 11:36 PM

the truth is I wont mine as I being paying us$5 every month at narutocentral. just to tired download using BT or other peer sharing program. no seeder no files transfer.

Not to say I'm a noobs on downloading using peer system. I started using napters and evolve to another. the best and faster download is still direct download from ftp. (basicly I'm impatient man)

no offense dude, but i dont think this is gonna work.. its juz a waste of time of u ask me..

This might work if you were offering licenced anime, but then there's the problem of copyright/licence issues with US (especially if you host the servers in the US), etc, even if we're not in the US (honestly, I don't see how can US copyright can affect malaysia, but thats an issue for another thread, and don't look like you're hosting the servers in malaysia anyway).

If its unlicenced anime, then it wouldn't really work, cause there are many free ways to get unlicenced anime. Unless you're offering rare and obscure unlicenced anime, it'd probably not work, cause popular anime is easily available from friends, bootlegs, irc or bt (which people will be willing to learn/use as long as it gets them what they want).

Then theres the issue of ethics of using other's fansubs and charging for them. Its one thing to run on donations, but another to charge people monthly, even if RM5-10 ain't much in the grand scheme of the world.

Won't be interested.

Dude, we got BT and IRC and can fully utilise them for free.......
why bother

The problem is not all people can use BT or IRC. MY friend in Petronas can't even use MSN (I taught him to use proxy, now he can) how to use BT. Throught the response it seems malaysians are quite cheapskate, preferring free all the time, I was just modelling the idea of downloadanime.org(which has tons of subscribers) that charges $5 for downloads a month. And AFAIK, the free services limit your downloads, whereas I am offering you to download the 160 episodes of animes at a go.

People who can't use IRC or BT are few and far between, and hardly use the internet. Those such people (ie. your friend at Petronas), how do you intend to reach them (let them know about your site) and get them to sign up?



The average streamyx user gets 1mbps max, so they wouldn't take 160 episodes of anime at a go, instead, they'd probably dl 2-4 eps at a time so that they won't have to wait that long. You're inflating and exaggerating numbers. Also, limits are almost necessary, or do you intend to allow one person to signup, and let them share the account?

This might seem harsh, but you're asking for an opinion on a forum where most know how to download, even if they choose not to. Thus, the majority of replies are obvious, and you're almost setting yourself up for this.

This post has been edited by seorang: Sep 8 2006, 04:27 PM

and also, i feel that those sites tat offer paid download for fansubs are ripping out the fansubs works....though they say the money are for server fees, but who are we to know how they use the money?
fansubs offer their stuffs for free, not for some1 to host them and then charge for downloading....

Exaggerating the numbers? Streamyx 1mbps could download all the way up to 300gb a month if you let it on 24/7 running at full speed so downloading 160 animes is a piece of cake.


If you charge high fees such as narutofan or any tazmo site, surely you are taking in profit but RM10 per month, can you find me a place to put a server that cheap? Even if I have 100 users I would even out because of the server cost (more users, more cpu power and ram and bandwidth, so the only profit is I can download for free for myself aka RM10).

*off topic*
About 4chan their senior members arent much of a hacker, mostly script kiddies who boast too much, if you want real hackers hang out at other forums. FYI, my personal accumulated damage is more than RM100k spanning over 6 years and this number is rounded down. **off topic**

Anyway further comments are welcomed.

interesting thread u got here

ok basically wat u mean is
customer pay 10 bucks per month and after that they can dl those anime of their choice on ur server am i right ?

let say if i subscribe it can i giv the link to all my fren to dl together

i leave my comp on 24/7/365 but its still quite impposible to reach 300gb permonth
due to dc-ing, and uber good connection provided by streamyx

juz a rough calculations u will need a constant 100KB every second 24 hours to reach 8.6gig per day. unless u have a uber good speed line which never dc and can stay above the 100KB barrier else i dun see how u can go pass 300gb per month.

mayb ur line is really tat good
may i know wats ur best speed?

if u got some secret recipe to make ur bt download faster pls teach me also i am noobs

You said at 160 animes at a go, most people would take that to mean at the same time.

Also, 300GB a month is being over-optimistic. I run BT 24/7, speeds varying between 50-100kbps, and I'm only doing about 100GB a month. Even if I double speed and usage to 100-200kbps and 200GB a month, thats more than the 1Mb line you're talking about, and nowhere close to 300GB. Not to mention, this is me in australia, with a decently reliable line, not the crap that TMnuts uses.

I won't debate server costs with you since you know it better than I do, but I'd think most people here agree with me if they think tazmo sites are crap. Thats why sites like stoptazmo exist. Its a matter of principle - who charges for fansubs that were made available at ZERO charge? Just ask the fansub groups whom you're considering adding, and whether they mind or don't mind you adding their work to your paysite. Getting fansub groups' permission to host might be harder than you think, or do you intend to just host the anime without asking?

Donations are one thing, asking people to make regular monthly payments is another. You need to work out what is the main purpose of your site - to make a profit, or to make anime available to people who normally can't get it through IRC or BT. Those two purposes might overlap, but there will be points in time when its one or the other.

*off topic*
Congratulations on showing off your epenor. I'll let 4chan know when you set your site up.

This post has been edited by seorang: Sep 8 2006, 08:22 PM

Do you know that MIRC bots are also a form of server? Some fansubs even bought servers just for giving the free services. Whatever you say, either for your server or other shits, simply we look at you as taking profits. Pointing out that your friend has problem getting the anime, that's his problem. He doesn't know how to get it? So, I assume he is a noob. Like I said earlier, your plan on making this stuff MAY ONLY works on fools.

Fansub.tv is offering free direct download, dude. Ask your friend to download it from there.

If you want to comment I understand but can't you do it in a more polite manner? Talking rudely constitutes to flaming and I stated please dont flame.

i suggest you close this thread n try to peddle ur hosting stuffs elsewhere
i feel the opinion of lowyatians are pretty clear on ur question, and there's no point continuing it where it might come to the extend of spams and flame wars.....

I didn't flame. I pointed out my opinions. Because I am from a fansub group and doing this kind of job. So what? Looking something what I already did for free and someone like you taking profits? Naaaah.

This post has been edited by Dark Steno: Sep 9 2006, 07:44 PM

And most if not all fansub groups leave messages on their subs stating that people should not sell their subs for profit. Since most subs do it for free, you're doing it for income at the expense of the fansubs.

.. ahhhh.. looks like vcd ah bengs are revolutionized now.... know how to setup server sumore.

upgraded vdb peddlers.

If there were any profit.

Dont know what you are talking about

Fine thread is closing, I have gathered enough members from elsewhere.

So, you still haven't answered the important questions - are you getting permission from the groups who fansubbed/ripped the anime you plan to host, or are you just going to add it anyway?

DONATION and YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR DOWNLOAD are two different terms.

This post has been edited by Dark Steno: Sep 10 2006, 12:48 AM

eg :



Well, yeah its a licence anime... just an example

Good luck