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TSart_tech
post Sep 4 2006, 05:11 PM, updated 19y ago

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hye guys!

i am soooo newbie that i dont even have a car yet!! sweat.gif
but i just wanna standby a basic ICE system for my upcoming car~ icon_idea.gif

for now, i have this speakers, bid from lelong...
i dont know the retail price...maybe i bid higher then the retail, i dont know~
i bid coz i cant go out as my leg was fractured due to an accident.... sad.gif
so i spend my 2 months of un-spend salary to go online shopping...
this is what i already got, is it ok for a good sound quality? :

PIONEER TSA1680S
6.5" 220 WATT SPEAKER

PIONEER TST250
150 WATT TWEETER

SONY XS-GF1322X
150W 5 1/4 inch 2 Way Coaxial Speaker

i listen to wide range of musics..
from swedish death metal/emo rock to experimental/ambient,
gemelan bali style to hip hop/pop r&b,
jazz to country...
im universal~ laugh.gif
SOMETIMES i would like to have my music loud....
especially when travelling with friends~

now searching for a HU...and need ur suggestion~
do i need crossover?
do i need an amp?
do i need a subwoofer?
btw my budget is quite tight, so u know~

im currently interested in Sony CDXS11
# ID3 Tagging.
# 4 x 5 watt RMS
# 1 Pre Out
# CR / RW Compatible
# Detachable Facia
# RDS
# MP3 Playback (optional).
# Drive 5 technology for clearer sound at higher volume
any suggestion? my budget for HU is below 300RM (ok hah?)

im using ipod,
but its not a problem for not having an AUX output coz i'll use the car-kit...
and cant play mp3 cd's is also not a big problem since i hv ipod~

so hopefully can guide me here... icon_question.gif
i dont need a super duper ICE, just a basic...
and sound is clear and dont have those pecah2 sound...

thanks guys! thumbup.gif

p/s : if anyone wanna sell thier HU or AMP to me also can...pm me ur best price... laugh.gif

This post has been edited by art_tech: Sep 5 2006, 01:49 AM
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post Sep 4 2006, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(driftmeister @ Sep 4 2006, 05:28 PM)
since u buy already...why bother asking? if i tell u ur stuff ain't good... will u get another set? laugh.gif
since u already have it, then u just use it when u got ur car and use it until it spoils then oni u come here and ask for recommend for upcoming upgrades


haha...yeah, thats right... laugh.gif
act what i need to know is, what spec of HU or AMP for this type of speakers?...
and how much? im learning here...
maybe perhaps u guys can give me a few model for me to compare on the price?

QUOTE(driftmeister @ Sep 4 2006, 05:28 PM)
yes, yes, yes
no budget ? then save up and get it when u got the budget
step by step is way to go


so can i skip the AMP and crossover?
bcos at first i was thinking of only having speakers and HU...
but after i browse through all the topics here, i found out that u guys give a big deal on amp and crossovers...so thats why i ask~

QUOTE(driftmeister @ Sep 4 2006, 05:28 PM)
for HU.. the Sony new series might be a good choice..but still reliability is my concern as the previous Xplod series are consider as a total failure becos the reliability is crap


the the one i would like to buy is the old series or new series? its xplod btw....

QUOTE(driftmeister @ Sep 4 2006, 05:28 PM)
try to get the HU which cost around 500+ ( mid range HU) will be more secure IMHO
so total save around rm700 will get u a decent HU + ur equipment installation  smile.gif
wow!
need to think about it first... laugh.gif

sorry, my knowledge in ICE is very2 low.. sweat.gif
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post Sep 4 2006, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(DeReturner @ Sep 4 2006, 05:42 PM)
Well, just to be brave in recommendation coz I myself also not pro in ICE.

PIONEER TSA1680S
6.5" 220 WATT SPEAKER

PIONEER TST250
150 WATT TWEETER
Does this 2 come with a crossover?


nope... sad.gif

QUOTE(DeReturner @ Sep 4 2006, 05:42 PM)
SONY XS-GF1322X
150W 5 1/4 inch 2 Way Coaxial Speaker
This can use for rear speaker setup.


thinking of that also! smile.gif

QUOTE(DeReturner @ Sep 4 2006, 05:42 PM)
do i need an amp?
NO, unless intend to install a sub-woofer. YES, if you wanna have more SQ.

do i need a subwoofer?
YES, as for you wide range taste of music. To me without sub-woofer is not an enjoyment.  tongue.gif

do i need crossover?
YES. If u install the item above, so the system can have more clearity, more SQ. You'll feel the different.

blush.gif Just my POV. Correct me if I'm wrong.  laugh.gif
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owh, great!!! thanks for ur words!!! thanks!!
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post Sep 4 2006, 05:54 PM

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so based on DeReturner sugestions,

is it ok if for now,
i use the speakers just as what he suggest,
and add a crossover only...

and the amp and subwoofer will come later?
i will still hv a nice sound coming out rite?

so the prob is HU...need more inputs from u guys~

any one with 2ndhand crossover??~ biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by art_tech: Sep 5 2006, 01:50 AM
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post Sep 4 2006, 05:55 PM

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erm...the pioneer...its below 300 ah?
can give link to the page? thanks!
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post Sep 4 2006, 06:05 PM

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"after sub-woofer, active crossover, if the speaker still working find, if feel wanna change it component speaker then active crossover.
Estimate can get everything on averange ICE within RM2000. "

sorry, but i dont really get what u mean....err....hehe...sory...
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post Sep 4 2006, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(DeReturner @ Sep 4 2006, 05:54 PM)
Do survey before buy, dont get it then only ask how to recover, usualy the solution is "throw away get a new 1." tongue.gif

Happy ICE-ing.
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haha....maybe u guys can just consider it as "i get it from my uncle for free and i only need to know what's next for this speakers~ "
ok hah?
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post Sep 4 2006, 06:45 PM

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hey, thanks for the advises!!
yeah, i think ure right, get the spekers inside, buy an average quality HU,
and add a crossover....and i get a just nice ICE for average use...rite?

so the subwoofer and amp comes later...
can u guys suggest some models?

and if i go for pioneer HU, ok huh?
can match my pioneer speakers~ yeah~
i found this thread in Garage Sales selling PIONEER HUs...
the price is just a bit over my budget,RM300+~

DEH-2850MP - RM(3XX) (no remote)
4-CHANNEL HIGH-POWER WMA/MP3/CD RECEIVER

so? any advice?
comparing this PIONEER and SONY Xplod CDXS11, which one is better?

This post has been edited by art_tech: Sep 6 2006, 02:28 AM
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post Sep 4 2006, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Sep 4 2006, 06:22 PM)
EDIT: try not to get sony stuff. Maybe it's just me because i HATE SONY ICE.
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haha...but i once impressed by Xplod series sound~ (back in collage days)
and at that time, i target for a complete set of Xplod system for my future car...
not till i browse and found that many of u guys are not into sony... laugh.gif

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post Sep 4 2006, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(driftmeister @ Sep 4 2006, 09:14 PM)
since u haven got ur car yet
why not wait until u get ur car only talk about getting the HU
mayb by that time u will have better budget
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hahaha....
act, my idea is that i wanna stanby a basic ICE system b4 i buy a car,
so that i will not face money prob when i own a car...
u know, my salary is not that big,
so if minus all the bills, pay for car, shopping and bla bla,
then how to save on ICE?

so when i get my car, i will only have to spend money on installing and upgrading~
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post Sep 4 2006, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(cky6667 @ Sep 4 2006, 10:34 PM)
buy already then juz use it loh......
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of coz ill use it laa~
just wanna know the next step...
about HU and AMP...
and learn a bit on ICE from u guys...
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post Sep 5 2006, 01:41 AM

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woooo....6k~
see first...wanna save for ICE alone pon sudah sakit~
hahaha...

neway, im not interested in engine performance....standard also can...
maybe i only need a nice ICE system, tinted glass, a nice rims, and perhaps bodykit, thats all...

hey u re from ampang....
maybe can meet up to get some advice from u after i get my car?

cheers~

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post Sep 5 2006, 01:55 AM

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hahaha...
wait till my leg sembuh first~
then can go look for a car...
for now, get ready with the basic ICE first...

still thinking what car to buy...
wira/savvy/kenari/kancil
yup low budget...for normal use only...
maybe a 2nd hand also ok.....

thanks! will buzz u if i oredi hv a car~
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post Sep 5 2006, 11:38 AM

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act i like wira and savvy

but with my tight budget, i think i'll go for 2nd hand wira...
space, cheap, and aftermarket parts....
its for normal use, im not that type of car performance guy...


and wait till my boss up my salary, then can change to a new car heh?
hehehhe~
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post Sep 5 2006, 12:20 PM

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hey ure selling off ur crossover huh?
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post Sep 6 2006, 02:06 AM

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errr..im not supporting p1 or p2..

but one thing for sure,
i have a proton at home rite now,
its a saga..and its a very old saga...
my uncle using it since im darjah 2~
and my dad bought it from my uncle, so its 2nd hand~
the saga is still ok till now~
and now, im using it...no prob at all~
just abit here and there bcoz its too old...
never rosak at highway...
can drive from johor to kedah, no prob~

and most of my family members using proton..
and i never heard they complain about their cars.....
same goes to perodua.....
so for me it doesn't matter....
i think it depends on how u take care the car....
thats all...

neway, i will just using it for normal use,
go to work, go shopping, hving tt...
for me cars are just cars...but i just want a bigger car....for some purpose~
got bumbung, tak kena hujan & panas, comfortable, look nice and hv a just nice basic ICE system! thats all, and its ok with me~ smile.gif

if talking about dream cars, then its a diff story~ biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by art_tech: Sep 6 2006, 02:11 AM
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post Sep 6 2006, 02:10 AM

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but hey, this will not be my car forever....
note that im also searching for 2nd hand cars,
means i will only use it for say, 2-3 years only...
then of course i'll buy a new one, a better one,
and make this 2ndhand car as my second car; go to pasar~

ok huh? biggrin.gif
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post Sep 6 2006, 02:17 AM

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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Sep 5 2006, 07:51 PM)
so actually what u need now is and amp and HU rite?
what's your budget for these 2
thanks driftmeister, but between pioneer6850 and Eclipse, which will u opt for?
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i think maybe a HU first....
based on what the sifus adviced,
i will just have the speakers with HU....(use the bulit in eq?)
see how it goes with the speakers...
and save more money to buy a woofer and amp later~
rite sifus?

but i think i will need the crossovers for my tweeters, rite?

budget is tight, but i can still afford <RM500 for HU....

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post Sep 6 2006, 02:18 AM

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QUOTE(howiechoo @ Sep 6 2006, 02:15 AM)
erm, isn't this an ice thread? btw, afaik proton 4g series engine is very durable tat's y the engine cna be use until now....as i know it's a >20 years old technology....and it still works good.tat prove the durability of the engine..for some problem on those car, i think it's how u use the car.....if it is well maintain, i dun think there wil be any prob....
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agreed!!

and sorry for a bit off topic there.... sweat.gif
happens that im also looking for car, thats why~
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post Sep 6 2006, 02:29 AM

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QUOTE(art_tech @ Sep 4 2006, 06:45 PM)
and if i go for pioneer HU, ok huh?
can match my pioneer speakers~ yeah~

i found this thread in Garage Sales selling PIONEER HUs...
the price is just a bit over my current budget,RM300+~

DEH-2850MP - RM(3XX) (no remote)
4-CHANNEL HIGH-POWER WMA/MP3/CD RECEIVER

so? any advice?
comparing this PIONEER and SONY Xplod CDXS11, which one is better?
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any advice on this, sifus?


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