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post Feb 15 2016, 11:12 PM

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hamba abdi sudah wujud sebelum kedatangan islam lagi
dan if not mistaken, islam iktiraf hamba abdi


cuma tidak lah di eksploitasi
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Bertaqwalah kamu kepada Allah terhadap hamba-hambamu. Mereka itu adalah sahabatmu, yang telah Allah letakkan di bawah kuasamu. Justeru itu, berilah mereka makan sebagaimana kamu makan, dan berilah mereka pakai sebagaimana kamu pakai, dan janganlah kamu bebani mereka dengan beban yang memberatkan mereka. Sekiranya kamu membebani mereka, bantulah mereka. ( HR Muslim)



pasal hamba sex juga tabouli
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Nur 24: 33
Dan janganlah kamu paksakan hamba-hamba perempuan kamu melacurkan diri manakalamereka mahu menjaga kehormatannya, kerana kamu berkehendakkan kesenangan hidup didunia. Dan sesiapa yang memaksa mereka, maka Sesungguhnya Allah - sesudah paksaan yangdilakukan kepada mereka - Maha Pengampun, lagi Maha Mengasihani



islam juga mengalakkan agar hamba abdi dimerdekakan
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al-Baqarah ayat 177
Bukanlah perkara kebajikan itu hanya kamu menghadapkan muka ke pihak timur dan barat, tetapi kebajikan itu ialah berimannya seseorang kepada Allah, dan Hari Akhirat,dan segala Malaikat, dan segala Kitab, dan sekalian Nabi dan mendermanya seseorangakan hartanya sedang ia menyayanginya, - kepada kaum kerabat, dan anak-anak yatimdan orang-orang miskin dan orang yang terlantar dalam perjalanan, dan kepada orang-orang yang meminta, dan untuk memerdekakan hamba-hamba abdi



kebetulan aku google dapat sos ni http://www.scribd.com/doc/111880953/Hamba-...-Manusia#scribd
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post Feb 16 2016, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Feb 16 2016, 10:13 AM)
So why aren't that dumb person criticized by the muslim community on the same level as those who criticize cartoonists?
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i dun geddit, what you mean?
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post Feb 16 2016, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Feb 16 2016, 10:22 AM)
It's very simple really. When a cartoonists offends the religion, millions take to the streets in angry protests, but does nothing against the fundamentalists destroying other societies.

I would just like to know why.
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those who kecoh about building look like cross then wanna take it down is really wrong/over react/menggelabah tak tentu pasal

cartoonist insult religion is also wrong, tak jaga sensitivity kaum/agama

"but does nothing against the fundamentalists" i dunno who you refer to fundamentalists here? ISIS?
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post Feb 16 2016, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Feb 16 2016, 10:47 AM)
I don't know what else to call them other than being oversensitive (the mildest way I can put it), because that's what they are. If you were to call them something, what would you call them?
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i would agree on oversensitive
there there is no need to find harsher word for that sweat.gif
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post Feb 16 2016, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Feb 16 2016, 10:38 AM)
There are MANY islam fundamentalists, MILF, Boko Haram, Hizbut Tahrir, Hezbollah, Al Qaeda, Anjem Choudary, Zakir Naik, and so on and so forth. ISIS is just the most successful (because it's got funding).
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i dont know all of them but Boko haram, ISIS and MILF is pure terrorist/extremist
you dont see street demo again them but as muslim this warning already on jakim/mosque/ustaz/my father/father in law/family circles



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post Feb 16 2016, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Feb 16 2016, 11:11 AM)
Please go through my posts and you will see I have been saying fundamentalists all the while. Zakir Naik may not be a terrorist, but ISIS is fundamentalist. Thanks
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it seems like you imply fundamentalists is terrorist

i maybe wrong but i think
fundamentalists is those who support the old islam
meaning they again terrorist

these fundamentalists can be accuse as secular among malay eg: no loud speaker for ceramah/recite quran (because in the past only azan)
while extreme among non muslim eg: support hudud (because in the past islam got hudud)

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post Feb 16 2016, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(abu.shofwan @ Feb 16 2016, 11:43 AM)
errr... you might have made a typo there

MW says: Secular --> of or relating to the worldly or temporal
Oxford says: Secular --> Not connected with religious or spiritual matters

perhaps you meant the opposite of secular?

anyway, carry on guys... me no have much knowledge and cannot actively participate in this topic
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maksud saya
cuba buang beberapa amalan orang melayu yang dianggap islamik, lalu dituduh sekular (atau another name bidah vs wahabi laugh.gif)
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post Feb 17 2016, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Feb 17 2016, 11:04 AM)
The problem with having silent moderates is that it provides a cover for extremism. It's basically tacit approval, and by calling the moderate conservatives and libertarians "bigots" like how Ben Affleck, Cenk Uyghur and Reza Azlan has been doing, the only voice of reason HAS TO come for the bigots, because the moderates are silenced by political correctness.

And besides, if what the fundamentalists are so wrong in the name of islam, why hasn't there been fatwas issued against forced conversations yet?
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I dont really get it how you define fundamentalists

They way I see "fundamentalists" is the original of islam which consider the best, so I dont like it when someone say it is wrong

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Syu'bah telah mengkhabarkan kepada kami, daripada Abu Jamrah, aku mendengar daripada Zahdam bin Mudarrib, aku mendengar daripada 'Imran bin Husain r.anhuma, dia berkata : โ€œTelah bersabda Rasulullah s.a.w : โ€œSebaik-baik umatku ialah yang hidup pada kurunku, kemudian yang mengikuti zaman mereka dan kemudian yang mengikuti zaman mereka.โ€ Imran berkata :โ€Aku tidak tahu samaada disebut selepas kurunnya dua kurun atau tiga kurun. Kemudian sesungguhnya selepas kamu ada satu kaum yang bersaksi sebelum diminta menjadi saksi, mereka mengkhianati dan tidak dipercayai, mereka berjanji dan tidak menepati, dan jelas pada mereka tanda-tanda as-Siman.

Riwayat al-Bukhari


sos blog = http://faizfathi07.blogspot.my/2011/02/tig...un-terbaik.html
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post Feb 17 2016, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Feb 17 2016, 11:44 AM)
The simple way of defining fundamentalists are those who prescribe to an islamic caliphate and islam as a religion of the sword.

If you have a different definition do share with us. Your little article doesn't say anything definitive.
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well, i just google what is fundamentalists
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fundamentalism definition. A conservative movement in theology among nineteenth- and twentieth-century Christians. Fundamentalists believe that the statements in the Bible are literally true. Note: Fundamentalists often argue against the theory of evolution

does it mean islam bertopengkan Christians? i guess not
then I assume fundamentalists/conservative islam which refer to the original islam which at the time of prophet and sahabah
my article is not about the definition of fundamentalists, but about the original islam is the best era in islam, an example for all muslims (i put the blog as source of the hadith)


anyway, if as long as you mean fundamentalists is not the original islam, then i got nothing to complain


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post Feb 17 2016, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Feb 17 2016, 12:07 PM)
OMG are you serious? Did you just twist the the meaning of the word fundamentalism, in a topic on islam, in a thread of muslim fellowship, to be about Christians???

What is "the original islam" in your article and in your understanding? Bear in mind there are different stages if islam. There is the Meccan era islam which was peaceful, and the Medinian islam which was violent and savage.
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dude, this i just said "does it mean islam bertopengkan Christians? i guess not"

What is "the original islam" = I already mention, "which refer to the original islam which at the time of prophet and sahabah"

its like you not even read sweat.gif
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post Feb 17 2016, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(tescogot @ Feb 17 2016, 12:45 PM)
welp

not even this thread is safe apparently
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to me is like got attacked laugh.gif i just wanna be here santai2

discuss about kelebihan jhikir, solat tahajud etc

suddenly jadi debate sweat.gif
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post Feb 17 2016, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(abu.shofwan @ Feb 17 2016, 01:26 PM)
ok
so here's a light topic that should be able to be discussed without heated debate

where do you guys buy Islamic books?
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fuuuhhhh, for youngster or atleast me, its like tak pernah beli at all sweat.gif
but, who always pergi mengaji dengan ustaz dekat surau usually mesti banyak (eg: my father)
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post Feb 17 2016, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(abu.shofwan @ Feb 17 2016, 05:15 PM)
just back from jamaah...
it occurred to me that most of us probably experienced having already completed whatever surah you yourself read, but the Imam still stands for looong. or in other position, like the tahyat or any other position, where you have already completed whatever it is you're supposed to read but the Imam still stays in such a position for a long time.
what are we supposed to do in such a condition?
if i do nothing, my mind often wanders off. and it's not like we can play with our handphone while waiting, too.
some dalil would be much, much, appreciated in this regard.
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you can make a doa in sujud

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Imam Abu Hanifah dan Imam Ahmad berpendapat bahwa tidak boleh berdoa dalam shalat melainkan dengan doa yang telah maโ€™tsur (ada nashnya) yang sesuai dengan Al Quran.



beside doa, can also
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โ€œSesungguhnya shalat ini tidak boleh di dalamnya ada percakapan manusia. Yang ada dalam shalat hanyalah ucapan tasbih, takbir dan bacaan Al Qurโ€™an.โ€ (HR. Muslim).



but if not mistaken, then one we usually recite is all the short version, there is a longer version but i dunno the key-word (disclaimer: if not mistaken)

edit:

doa ketika sujud, pujian Allah ketika rukuk
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โ€œKetahuilah, aku dilarang untuk membaca al-Qurโ€™an dalam keadaan rukuโ€™ atau sujud. Adapun rukuโ€™ maka agungkanlah Rabb azza wa jalla, sedangkan sujud, maka berusahalah bersungguh-sungguh dalam doa, sehingga layak dikabulkan untukmu.โ€ (HR. Muslim no. 479)



p/s: aku tak jumpa pulak untuk berdiri, tasyahud dll so that part cannot said anything


sos:
https://rumaysho.com/1095-bolehkah-ketika-s...i-al-quran.html
https://rumaysho.com/8524-berdoa-dalam-shal...ahasa-arab.html

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post Feb 18 2016, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(LivingActive @ Feb 18 2016, 04:15 PM)
BOLEHKAH KITA DOAKAN NON MUSLIM YANG DAH MENINGGAL?
Do you know lori hantu that killed two students case a few weeks ago?

Both are non muslim.

They are still young.

I pretty sure they are good students, never do bad thing.

But killed under the lori hantu.

I just feel sad.

Everytime i open newspaper got non muslim die here die there, funeral notice etc

what will happen to them in afterlife?
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im sorry to say, but islam pov, non-muslim death mean hellfire in the afterlife
while bad muslim also go hellfire to tebus all their sin and finally enter heaven
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post Feb 18 2016, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Feb 18 2016, 05:49 PM)
Well... the rejection of the possibility that the quran may have problematic teachings is probably why there are so many problematic muslims.

The Christians have the New Testament, and the Protestants and the reformation made Christianity far more civilized than it was prior to the full adoption of the New Testament.

Why is this not possible in islam?
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muslim view quran as solid & final so its butthurt when you say "quran may have problematic teachings"

anyway, JAKIM/ulama can change/add new but must berpandukan quran & hadith yang sahih
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post Feb 18 2016, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(haziqk10 @ Feb 18 2016, 06:28 PM)
If its solid and final,

1) Why the need to change and/or add new? That is like changing the religion and it is forbidden to change religion according to Islam. There is no mention by the Prophet that he gave permission for scholar to change or add things in Islam.

2) If need to change, who gave the authority to the scholars to have that power? Because god said it cant be change.

3) If need to change, which scholar is the most reliable to follow? Because they each have different opinion,
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ulama did not change verse of quran
hadith narration also ulama did not change

example of what ulama change is
eg: dulu bayar zakat guna beras, sekarang boleh bayar guna ringgit


QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Feb 18 2016, 06:35 PM)
1. Considering the fact there is a world of confusion regarding the quran (even in this thread itself), I'd have to say the quran is far from solid.

2. As for final, I'm sure you're familiar with that the quran in it's current form is not really the final from, don't you?  (i am referring to Uthman, the 3rd caliph, burning of other versions of quran)

3. Abrogation exists in the quran (i.e. newer replaces older), so surely god allowed changes.
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reply 1: then as muslim, we believe quran is solid. if you think got problem this and that, im not scholar who study and tafsir quran to explain in detail

reply 2: dont know detail in the Uthman era, but its possible for fake quran now days, quran authencity double check by hafiz (person who remember whole quran from generation to generation)

reply 3: dont know about Abrogation detail in the past, as for now it is final and no change in verses anymore
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post Feb 19 2016, 03:01 PM

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Sunnah-sunnah Hari Jumaat.

1โƒฃ Berselawat kepada Nabi.
Rasulullรขh SAW bersabda :
" Perbanyaklah selawat kepadaku di hari Jumaat dan malam Jumaat. Barangsiapa membaca selawat untukku satu kali, maka Allah berselawat (memberi rahmat) kepadanya sepuluh kali."

๐Ÿ“’Hassan, lihat : As-Sahihah Mukhtasarah (lll/397, Asy-Syamilah.
2โƒฃ Mandi Jumaat dengan tatacara mandi Jinabat.
Waktunya boleh dilakukan setelah Subuh hingga adzan Jumaat.
โ–ถ Diriwayatkan dari Abu Said Al-Khudri bahawa Rasulullah bersabda :
"Mandi hari Jumaat adalah wajib atas setiap muslim yang sudah baligh"
(Hadis riwayat Bukhari) (lafaz wajib menguatkan pendapat yg mewajibkan mandi Jumaat)
โ–ถ Dari Samurah bin Jundab, bahawa Rasulullah S.A.W. telah bersabda :
"Barangsiapa hanya berwudhu' di hari Jumaat, maka soleh dan baik, dan barangsiapa mandi, maka mandi itu lebih utama."

๐Ÿ“’Sahih: Lihat: Sahih wa Dhaif Sunaan Tirmizi (l/497,asy-Syamilah.)
3โƒฃ Memperbanyakkan Zikir dan Doa.
Kerana pada hari Jumaat, terdapat saat-saat mustajab doa sepertimana yang diisyaratkan Rasulullah bahawa pada saat itu, ia tidak ditolak.
โ–ถ Asy-Syaukani berkata, "Nas-nas telah datang secara mutawatir bahawa pada hari Jumaat terdapat satu saat di mana tidaklah seorang hamba meminta sesuatu kepada Rabb-nya kecuali akan diberikan kepadanya".
โ–ถ Terdapat lebih dari 40 pendapat, tetapi Asy-Syaukani telah menghitungnya, dan dinukil dari al-Muhibb At-Thabari, bahawa ia berkata.
"Paling Sahih di antara hadis-hadis yg menerangkan tentang hal ini adalah hadits Abu Musa bahawa ia mendengar Rasulullah bersabda :
"Saat itu terjadi antara duduknya Imam (ketika khutbah Jumaat) hingga solat (Jumaat) ditunaikan"

๐Ÿ“’Hadits riwayat Muslim.
โ–ถ Selepas waktu Asar sebelum Maghrib berdasarkan hadis Nabi :
ูŠูŽูˆู’ู…ู ุงู„ุฌูู…ูุนุฉ ุซูู†ู’ุชูŽุง ุนูŽุดู’ุฑูŽุฉูŽ ุณูŽุงุนูŽุฉู‹ ุŒ ู„ุงูŽ ูŠููˆุฌูŽุฏ ูููŠู‡ูŽุง ุนูŽุจู’ุฏูŒ ู…ูุณู’ู„ูู…ูŒ ูŠูŽุณู’ุฃูŽู„ู ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุดูŽูŠู’ุฆุงู‹ ุฅูู„ุงู‘ูŽ ุขุชูŽุงู‡ู ุฅููŠู‘ูŽุงู‡ู ุŒ ููŽุงู„ู’ุชูŽู…ูุณููˆู‡ูŽุง ุขุฎูุฑูŽ ุณูŽุงุนูŽุฉู ุจูŽุนู’ุฏูŽ ุงู„ุนูŽุตู’ุฑ
Erti : Hari Jumaat ada 12 bahagian masa yang mana tiada seorang hamba muslim berdoa padanya kecuali akan diberikan (maqbul), maka CARILAH IA di HUJUNG WAKTU SELEPAS ASAR"

๐Ÿ“’Hadis riwayat Abu Daud- hadis Sahih.
โ—โ—Yakinlah akan dimaqbul doa sewaktu berdoa dan muhasabah diri akan hal yang boleh menggugat kemaqbulan doa seperti harta haram dan dosa-dosa yang belum bertaubat dan istighfar.
Wallahua'lam

sos, can follow him on FB laugh.gif = https://www.facebook.com/Dr-Ustaz-Rozaimi-R...099681/?fref=nf
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post Feb 19 2016, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(abu.shofwan @ Feb 19 2016, 05:03 PM)
Surah Al-Maeda, Verse 6:
ูŠูŽุง ุฃูŽูŠู‘ูู‡ูŽุง ุงู„ู‘ูŽุฐููŠู†ูŽ ุขู…ูŽู†ููˆุง ุฅูุฐูŽุง ู‚ูู…ู’ุชูู…ู’ ุฅูู„ูŽู‰ ุงู„ุตู‘ูŽู„ูŽุงุฉู ููŽุงุบู’ุณูู„ููˆุง ูˆูุฌููˆู‡ูŽูƒูู…ู’ ูˆูŽุฃูŽูŠู’ุฏููŠูŽูƒูู…ู’ ุฅูู„ูŽู‰ ุงู„ู’ู…ูŽุฑูŽุงููู‚ู ูˆูŽุงู…ู’ุณูŽุญููˆุง ุจูุฑูุกููˆุณููƒูู…ู’ ูˆูŽุฃูŽุฑู’ุฌูู„ูŽูƒูู…ู’ ุฅูู„ูŽู‰ ุงู„ู’ูƒูŽุนู’ุจูŽูŠู’ู†ู ูˆูŽุฅูู† ูƒูู†ุชูู…ู’ ุฌูู†ูุจู‹ุง ููŽุงุทู‘ูŽู‡ู‘ูŽุฑููˆุง ูˆูŽุฅูู† ูƒูู†ุชูู… ู…ู‘ูŽุฑู’ุถูŽู‰ูฐ ุฃูŽูˆู’ ุนูŽู„ูŽู‰ูฐ ุณูŽููŽุฑู ุฃูŽูˆู’ ุฌูŽุงุกูŽ ุฃูŽุญูŽุฏูŒ ู…ู‘ูู†ูƒูู… ู…ู‘ูู†ูŽ ุงู„ู’ุบูŽุงุฆูุทู ุฃูŽูˆู’ ู„ูŽุงู…ูŽุณู’ุชูู…ู ุงู„ู†ู‘ูุณูŽุงุกูŽ ููŽู„ูŽู…ู’ ุชูŽุฌูุฏููˆุง ู…ูŽุงุกู‹ ููŽุชูŽูŠูŽู…ู‘ูŽู…ููˆุง ุตูŽุนููŠุฏู‹ุง ุทูŽูŠู‘ูุจู‹ุง ููŽุงู…ู’ุณูŽุญููˆุง ุจููˆูุฌููˆู‡ููƒูู…ู’ ูˆูŽุฃูŽูŠู’ุฏููŠูƒูู… ู…ู‘ูู†ู’ู‡ู ู…ูŽุง ูŠูุฑููŠุฏู ุงู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ู ู„ููŠูŽุฌู’ุนูŽู„ูŽ ุนูŽู„ูŽูŠู’ูƒูู… ู…ู‘ูู†ู’ ุญูŽุฑูŽุฌู ูˆูŽู„ูŽูฐูƒูู† ูŠูุฑููŠุฏู ู„ููŠูุทูŽู‡ู‘ูุฑูŽูƒูู…ู’ ูˆูŽู„ููŠูุชูู…ู‘ูŽ ู†ูุนู’ู…ูŽุชูŽู‡ู ุนูŽู„ูŽูŠู’ูƒูู…ู’ ู„ูŽุนูŽู„ู‘ูŽูƒูู…ู’ ุชูŽุดู’ูƒูุฑููˆู†ูŽ

O you who believe! When you intend to offer As-Salat (the prayer), wash your faces and your hands (forearms) up to the elbows, rub (by passing wet hands over) your heads, and (wash) your feet up to ankles...
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran

Here's a point for our discussion.
I have not found translation saying the ear need to be washed. My iQuran app has 5 english translation, plus Melayu and Bahasa Indonesia.
Are we doing it wrong
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yang tu paling minima kot
yang kita buat pon ada hadis

check blog ni, then just search "telinga", nanti nampak la hadis nya
http://bangbendie.blogspot.my/2012/12/blog-post.html

juga ada hadis tentang kelebihan perbanyakkan kawasan wuduk
juga ada hadis kenapa disapu 3 kali (1 kali pon boleh)
juga ada hadis amaran kalau wuduk tak betul

tengah keje, takde masa cari sos laugh.gif

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post Feb 19 2016, 05:55 PM

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post Feb 22 2016, 09:49 AM

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