QUOTE(miaopurr @ Dec 5 2014, 11:01 PM)
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Dec 5 2014, 10:10 PM
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Dec 5 2014, 10:13 PM
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Dec 5 2014, 10:16 PM
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Wah so nais. Tracking this topic!
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Dec 8 2014, 03:50 PM
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Dec 8 2014, 05:49 PM
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Dec 8 2014, 08:25 PM
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salam saudara-saudaraku
kenapa surah At-Taubah tidak dimulakan dengan Bismillah ? |
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Dec 8 2014, 08:44 PM
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Dec 8 2014, 10:28 PM
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what do you think of what drM said? |
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Dec 8 2014, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE(tentang rasa @ Dec 8 2014, 10:28 PM) saya tidak arif tentang isu ini. tidak tahu macam mana cara/syarat untuk execute the islamic penal law. but two things i'm sure of:1. bukan boleh simply execute the hudud law onto the pesalah 2. kalau tak buat salah, kenapa nak takut? "keadilan" is just too cheap a word thrown about nowadays. well connected ppl allegedly do crimes, and they get away scot-free. is that adil? normal lowly citizen vent out their anger towards racial discrimination, n they get maximum punishment n reprimanded. meanwhile those higher ups throw hateful racial speech, and nothing. adil? This post has been edited by miaopurr: Dec 8 2014, 10:40 PM |
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Dec 8 2014, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Dec 8 2014, 10:35 PM) saya tidak arif tentang isu ini. tidak tahu macam mana cara/syarat untuk execute the islamic penal law. but two things i'm sure of: yup. betul. nak laksanakan mesti kena adil.. cuma statement drM tu buatkan aku terfikir mana lagi besar dlm islam1. bukan boleh simply execute the hudud law onto the pesalah 2. kalau tak buat salah, kenapa nak takut? "keadilan" is just too cheap a word thrown about nowadays. well connected ppl allegedly do crimes, and they get away scot-free. is that adil? normal lowly citizen vent out their anger towards racial discrimination, n they get maximum punishment n reprimanded. meanwhile those higher ups throw hateful racial speech, and nothing. adil? keadilan>hudud or hudud>keadilan |
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Dec 8 2014, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE(tentang rasa @ Dec 8 2014, 11:17 PM) yup. betul. nak laksanakan mesti kena adil.. cuma statement drM tu buatkan aku terfikir mana lagi besar dlm islam errr.... hudud not adil?keadilan>hudud or hudud>keadilan edit: u mean, adil as in the context muslims n non-muslims should have common set of laws? the law should be blind of religion? This post has been edited by miaopurr: Dec 8 2014, 11:24 PM |
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Dec 8 2014, 11:24 PM
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Dec 8 2014, 11:27 PM
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Dec 8 2014, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE(tentang rasa @ Dec 8 2014, 10:28 PM) QUOTE(miaopurr @ Dec 8 2014, 10:35 PM) saya tidak arif tentang isu ini. tidak tahu macam mana cara/syarat untuk execute the islamic penal law. but two things i'm sure of: 1. bukan boleh simply execute the hudud law onto the pesalah 2. kalau tak buat salah, kenapa nak takut? "keadilan" is just too cheap a word thrown about nowadays. well connected ppl allegedly do crimes, and they get away scot-free. is that adil? normal lowly citizen vent out their anger towards racial discrimination, n they get maximum punishment n reprimanded. meanwhile those higher ups throw hateful racial speech, and nothing. adil? QUOTE(tentang rasa @ Dec 8 2014, 11:17 PM) yup. betul. nak laksanakan mesti kena adil.. cuma statement drM tu buatkan aku terfikir mana lagi besar dlm islam keadilan>hudud or hudud>keadilan QUOTE(miaopurr @ Dec 8 2014, 11:21 PM) please , please watch this video.hudud main aim is a deterence not to punish. and you need to a pious society to implement it. until then ....start educating and implementing others parts of islam. even the Messenger of Allah ask the man who ask to be punish by Hudud to go away. and even when theres a punishment for fornication and the man ran away but the people gave chase to him and punish him till death... the Messenger of Allah said ; you should let him be (not chase him and punish him untill death) |
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Dec 8 2014, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE(ralfvi @ Dec 8 2014, 11:27 PM) please , please watch this video. like i said earlier, can't just simply execute hudud.hudud main aim is a deterence not to punish. and you need to a pious society to implement it. until then ....start educating and implementing others parts of islam. even the Messenger of Allah ask the man who ask to be punish by Hudud to go away. and even when theres a punishment for fornication and the man ran away but the people gave chase to him and punish him till death... the Messenger of Allah said ; you should let him be (not chase him and punish him untill death) i know there are many factors to be considered beforehand. the discussion was, hudud can't be implemented because there will be two sets of laws. if the discussion was, should we implement hudud right here right now coz it is the solution to all maladies of today's society, then the argument would be different |
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Dec 8 2014, 11:34 PM
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Dec 8 2014, 11:38 PM
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