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SUSmeistsh_musical
post Dec 5 2014, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Dec 5 2014, 11:01 PM)
all praise to Allah
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conversation like this
me: saya harap saya dapat payment minggu ini
staff: syukur allah...... rclxub.gif
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post Dec 5 2014, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(meistsh_musical @ Dec 5 2014, 10:05 PM)
conversation like this
me: saya harap saya dapat payment minggu ini
staff: syukur allah......  rclxub.gif
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u boss?
SUSmeistsh_musical
post Dec 5 2014, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Dec 5 2014, 11:06 PM)
u boss?
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business man...
miaopurr
post Dec 5 2014, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(meistsh_musical @ Dec 5 2014, 10:08 PM)
business man...
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i guess ur staff understands that u'll be receiving payment this month. so that's good news, yes? so ur staff is thankful to Allah.
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post Dec 5 2014, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Dec 5 2014, 11:10 PM)
i guess ur staff understands that u'll be receiving payment this month. so that's good news, yes? so ur staff is thankful to Allah.
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thank
aimank_88
post Dec 5 2014, 10:16 PM

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Wah so nais. Tracking this topic!
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post Dec 8 2014, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(tentang rasa @ Dec 5 2014, 12:01 AM)
"aku mencari Islam sendiri,
kalau aku tengok Islam melalui orang-orang Islam
pastilah aku menjadi kafir yang paling tegar menentang Islam"

terharu dga ayat ni
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ayat mana ni bai?
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post Dec 8 2014, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(Scar_face @ Dec 8 2014, 03:50 PM)
ayat mana ni bai?
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aku copy kat twitter
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post Dec 8 2014, 08:25 PM

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salam saudara-saudaraku

kenapa surah At-Taubah tidak dimulakan dengan Bismillah ? hmm.gif
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post Dec 8 2014, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Dec 8 2014, 08:25 PM)
salam saudara-saudaraku

kenapa surah At-Taubah tidak dimulakan dengan Bismillah ? hmm.gif
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saya reti gugel je

Basmalah dan surah AL-Taubah
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post Dec 8 2014, 10:28 PM

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what do you think of what drM said?
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post Dec 8 2014, 10:35 PM

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what do you think of what drM said?
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saya tidak arif tentang isu ini. tidak tahu macam mana cara/syarat untuk execute the islamic penal law. but two things i'm sure of:

1. bukan boleh simply execute the hudud law onto the pesalah
2. kalau tak buat salah, kenapa nak takut?

"keadilan" is just too cheap a word thrown about nowadays. well connected ppl allegedly do crimes, and they get away scot-free. is that adil? normal lowly citizen vent out their anger towards racial discrimination, n they get maximum punishment n reprimanded. meanwhile those higher ups throw hateful racial speech, and nothing. adil?

This post has been edited by miaopurr: Dec 8 2014, 10:40 PM
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post Dec 8 2014, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Dec 8 2014, 10:35 PM)
saya tidak arif tentang isu ini. tidak tahu macam mana cara/syarat untuk execute the islamic penal law. but two things i'm sure of:

1. bukan boleh simply execute the hudud law onto the pesalah
2. kalau tak buat salah, kenapa nak takut?

"keadilan" is just too cheap a word thrown about nowadays. well connected ppl allegedly do crimes, and they get away scot-free. is that adil? normal lowly citizen vent out their anger towards racial discrimination, n they get maximum punishment n reprimanded. meanwhile those higher ups throw hateful racial speech, and nothing. adil?
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yup. betul. nak laksanakan mesti kena adil.. cuma statement drM tu buatkan aku terfikir mana lagi besar dlm islam

keadilan>hudud
or
hudud>keadilan
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post Dec 8 2014, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(tentang rasa @ Dec 8 2014, 11:17 PM)
yup. betul. nak laksanakan mesti kena adil.. cuma statement drM tu buatkan aku terfikir mana lagi besar dlm islam

keadilan>hudud
or
hudud>keadilan
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errr.... hudud not adil?

edit: u mean, adil as in the context muslims n non-muslims should have common set of laws? the law should be blind of religion?

This post has been edited by miaopurr: Dec 8 2014, 11:24 PM
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post Dec 8 2014, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Dec 8 2014, 11:21 PM)
errr.... hudud not adil?
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hudud tu adil
cuma cara pelaksanaan nye tu
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post Dec 8 2014, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(tentang rasa @ Dec 8 2014, 11:24 PM)
hudud tu adil
cuma cara pelaksanaan nye tu
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so... u want hudud to be applied on muslims n non-muslims alike?
or just shelve the hudud bcoz we can't impose on non-muslims?

This post has been edited by miaopurr: Dec 8 2014, 11:27 PM
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post Dec 8 2014, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(tentang rasa @ Dec 8 2014, 10:28 PM)


what do you think of what drM said?
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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Dec 8 2014, 10:35 PM)
saya tidak arif tentang isu ini. tidak tahu macam mana cara/syarat untuk execute the islamic penal law. but two things i'm sure of:

1. bukan boleh simply execute the hudud law onto the pesalah
2. kalau tak buat salah, kenapa nak takut?

"keadilan" is just too cheap a word thrown about nowadays. well connected ppl allegedly do crimes, and they get away scot-free. is that adil? normal lowly citizen vent out their anger towards racial discrimination, n they get maximum punishment n reprimanded. meanwhile those higher ups throw hateful racial speech, and nothing. adil?
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QUOTE(tentang rasa @ Dec 8 2014, 11:17 PM)
yup. betul. nak laksanakan mesti kena adil.. cuma statement drM tu buatkan aku terfikir mana lagi besar dlm islam

keadilan>hudud
or
hudud>keadilan
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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Dec 8 2014, 11:21 PM)
errr.... hudud not adil?
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please , please watch this video.

hudud main aim is a deterence not to punish.
and you need to a pious society to implement it.
until then ....start educating and implementing others parts of islam.
even the Messenger of Allah ask the man who ask to be punish by Hudud to go away.
and even when theres a punishment for fornication and the man ran away but the people gave chase to him and punish him till death... the Messenger of Allah said ; you should let him be (not chase him and punish him untill death)

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post Dec 8 2014, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(ralfvi @ Dec 8 2014, 11:27 PM)
please , please watch this video.

hudud main aim is a deterence not to punish.
and you need to a pious society to implement it.
until then ....start educating and implementing others parts of islam.
even the Messenger of Allah ask the man who ask to be punish by Hudud to go away.
and even when theres a punishment for fornication and the man ran away but the people gave chase to him and punish him till death... the Messenger of Allah said ; you should let him be (not chase him and punish him untill death)
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like i said earlier, can't just simply execute hudud.
i know there are many factors to be considered beforehand.
the discussion was, hudud can't be implemented because there will be two sets of laws.

if the discussion was, should we implement hudud right here right now coz it is the solution to all maladies of today's society, then the argument would be different
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post Dec 8 2014, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Dec 8 2014, 11:27 PM)
so... u want hudud to be applied on muslims n non-muslims alike?
or just shelve the hudud bcoz we can't impose on non-muslims?
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from what i knew it must be applied to non muslim too
maybe applied later?

maaf kalau silap
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post Dec 8 2014, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(tentang rasa @ Dec 8 2014, 11:34 PM)
from what i knew it must be applied to non muslim too
maybe applied later?

maaf kalau silap
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hmm.gif tak pernah plak dengar like dat....

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