That is a completely WRONG statement. I have to emphasise the wrong because it is totally the opposite situation.

Do you know HOW developers get their money? From the sales of their software. Their revenue totally depends on the volume of sales of ORIGINAL software.

They don't give a damn about sales for a console. What they really care about is how much their game can sell, and that's it.

Having a modded console WILL NOT cause more developers to do games for the console. It is quite the opposite. They will shy away, because the games that they have spent thousands on, or even millions, will be easily pirated, and they won't get a single sen from it.

Sorry, but I have to emphasise this. Modded consoles/piracy do not benefit the videogaming industry one bit.....

LOL...it doesn't make sense, because developers don't really care about modded consoles. Like I said, they only care about how many games they can sell, since that's WHERE they're getting their money.

Sigh....IMHO this topic should be closed. Talking about piracy isn't really appropriate here. It has been done to death anyways.

Dude.... in business, you take into account factors that affect your REVENUE.

Does piracy affect your revenue? Yes! But it's a NEGATIVE effect. So would you develop for a console that has a lot of piracy on it? NO! Why? It NEGATIVELY affects your REVENUE!

I can't believe this...you're talking about business, but it's such an obvious business equation. You DON'T do business on a console that will cause you to lose money! Goodness, I can't believe I'm arguing about business with someone who just doesn't understand business to begin with.

Well, it's a well known fact MS is losing money, and they'll continue to do so for a while. But of course, the 360 to them is a long-term investment. They probably don't expect to recoup their investment for another 2-3 years at least.

Things like LIVE, Marketplace and games is the only place where MS makes money, or for that matter, any console makers make money. Consoles? No, they're losing a lot of money there. By calculation, in order to break even, they have to sell around 5-6 games for each console to stop making a loss.

So imagine the amount that MS/Sony/Ninty are losing if piracy reigns.... they're selling a console at a loss, and can't recoup that loss through software/downloads.

This post has been edited by Darkchaser: Sep 4 2006, 10:52 AM

LOL....Most Singaporeans wanna get out of the country, and you wanna get IN?

Well, I have bought games from there as well. Other than Djinn (when he worked there) and the girl, the others do have a problem with their PR IMHO.

But then again, most shops other thanTSB, TNL or Imbi Mario will discourage you to buy original games. I remember asking about a GC game at another shop in 1U, and they quoted me RM280 Of course I complained, since most GC games don't exceed RM240, and the reason they gave me was "this is original, of course la expensive"

You must be blind if you say 360 games are equal in quality as Xbox games. Training ground? Dude, you think developing for X360 is the same as developing for PS3? Two different console = two different programming methods/syntax due to the different programming language and tools provided, not to mention the difference in hardware. Your suggestion that X360 is a "training ground" for PS3 is laughable.

LOL...I think I need a translator here because I have no idea what you just said. Please come back with proper paragraphing, and more coherency, then we can continue our debate

Agreed!! Agreed!!! Now bro PJ needs to come back and banhammer this topic and we'll all be happy little Xboxers again

LOL, let's just let this thread die lah. I need to concentrate on my business classes anyways since I was told I cannot run a business

Just one last... I can see that our man carnby here keeps assuming a lot of things. Assuming that Sony and Microsoft purposely left loopholes. Assuming I don't know business (LOL FYI I hold a business degree and am working in a retail company, and I find this comment very insulting). Assuming we all don't have social lives.

I'll teach you one of the first things I learnt when I studied in uni:

ASSUME = ASS ,U and ME

Good day