Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Bump Topic Topic Closed RSS Feed
4 Pages < 1 2 3 4 >Bottom

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 Goodview heights @ sg Long south, DSL 22 X75, 22 X80 and more

views
     
samkps
post Sep 20 2014, 12:59 AM

10k Club
********
Senior Member
15,454 posts

Joined: Nov 2011
QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 20 2014, 12:58 AM)
even more angry, 728k DSL , still flip? built and sell and RPGT 5 years from now, 2019, SEH RPgt by time Vp already  2015, haizzz..
*
buy now, flip 950k after 3 years, rgpt same as SEH flip 2 years later, no? haizz...
samkps
post Sep 20 2014, 01:01 AM

10k Club
********
Senior Member
15,454 posts

Joined: Nov 2011
QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 20 2014, 12:59 AM)
there goes the reason of location and concept, you answered it? how pl are going to believe that SP products are cheaper than others, if they do, you may want to be worry about the quality
*
BBW, nah... this is the cost you need to pay for the "build and sell" lah... developer factor in the cost mah, you forget liao ah? brows.gif brows.gif

The selling price for build and sell always much higher than sell and build one, developer factor in the cash flow cost, if you dun understand, then really sohzai already... tongue.gif tongue.gif

This post has been edited by samkps: Sep 20 2014, 01:02 AM
samkps
post Sep 20 2014, 01:03 AM

10k Club
********
Senior Member
15,454 posts

Joined: Nov 2011
QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 20 2014, 01:02 AM)
quite a big margin there, never secure few units of goodview since it can promised flip?
*
I dun miss the boat mah, why should I. Even I have bullet, i have much more better choice than goodview loh...

This post has been edited by samkps: Sep 20 2014, 01:04 AM
samkps
post Sep 20 2014, 01:07 AM

10k Club
********
Senior Member
15,454 posts

Joined: Nov 2011
QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 20 2014, 01:03 AM)
there is a reason for the price entry right? deee..
*
As I say, sale price for build and sell is much higher than sell and build, coz developer want to factor in the cash flow cost mah, that's the price you pay for the developer to flip themselve mah, u still dun understand meh?

Buy goodview is like buy subsale from developer, developer already flipper at the first place mah...
samkps
post Sep 20 2014, 01:08 AM

10k Club
********
Senior Member
15,454 posts

Joined: Nov 2011
QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 20 2014, 01:05 AM)
oh, you mean at this point of time purchase can get better margin profit than goodview like you have predicted? I wonder where on earth such properties is situated?hmmm
*
SEH phase 2, 22 x 75 starts from 680k, much better choice than goodview... rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
samkps
post Sep 20 2014, 01:09 AM

10k Club
********
Senior Member
15,454 posts

Joined: Nov 2011
QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 20 2014, 01:07 AM)
of course, wow wait a minute, SEH selling 403k, hmm, I wonder what will be the subsales price? since Sp (never factored in their built & sell scheme), wonder these days developers are thinking about what? Let flippers profit? hmm hmm.gif
*
people buy SEH for first hand from developer, people buy goodview subsale from developer.. pity to goodview buyers.. doh.gif doh.gif
samkps
post Sep 20 2014, 01:13 AM

10k Club
********
Senior Member
15,454 posts

Joined: Nov 2011
QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 20 2014, 01:09 AM)
that is more justifiable right, since you say they factor in their cost? they hold the risk of building from piling stage till 70% complete before selling?

isn't that better than flippers?
*
nah... another stupid perception again...

developer flipper - no problem, coz they hold the risk

individual flipper - no good and can't accept, coz no hold any risk..

doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

Individual flipper no need take loan one, no need scare developer run away one, no need scare developer build a laoya quality house one... so zero risk... doh.gif doh.gif
samkps
post Sep 20 2014, 01:15 AM

10k Club
********
Senior Member
15,454 posts

Joined: Nov 2011
QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 20 2014, 01:11 AM)
pity buyers almost finish buying "developers subsales" and leave SEH and their remainings and EM? hmm hmm.gif
*
Sales in EM and SEH maybe triple or quadable better than goodview.. with much better deal...

really pity to these developer subsale buyers... doh.gif doh.gif
samkps
post Sep 20 2014, 01:16 AM

10k Club
********
Senior Member
15,454 posts

Joined: Nov 2011
QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 20 2014, 01:14 AM)
I just wonder, why then SEH & Em still have leftover? since it is G&G? hmm, and ppl go on and buy goodview ?  hmm.gif
*
goodview sold off meh? i think you walk in there is dozens of 22 x 80 still available and even flipper also dun want... doh.gif doh.gif
samkps
post Sep 20 2014, 01:20 AM

10k Club
********
Senior Member
15,454 posts

Joined: Nov 2011
QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 20 2014, 01:17 AM)
you are getting extreme side,

developers being a flipper promise price valuation on top of the risk of constructions, flippers on the other hand were merely taking loans and wait ( in SEH case DIBS) and do not promise valuation.

without valuation, it has lower chances to market the property out.

and subsales flippers do not have freebies and etc, developers do
*
Stupid perception, SEH with DIBS no need to take loan meh? If next time SEH no valuation still can sell off meh? If no valuation, flipper also need to hold mah, same to developer, if no valuation also need to hold loh.

Got different meh?
samkps
post Sep 20 2014, 01:22 AM

10k Club
********
Senior Member
15,454 posts

Joined: Nov 2011
QUOTE(doomdoom @ Sep 20 2014, 01:17 AM)
yeah..the sales lady still call me today interested or not on good view height...still got >40 units can chose... biggrin.gif
*
nah.... like bbw said, flippers only taking lower entry cost unit, another goodview ghost town is making... tongue.gif tongue.gif

Higher price one, even flipper also dun want, pity loh..
samkps
post Sep 20 2014, 01:24 AM

10k Club
********
Senior Member
15,454 posts

Joined: Nov 2011
QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 20 2014, 01:20 AM)
wow, hmm I am preety sure you were informed orally, well then again, project is not as hot as SEH which starts 403k, could be a good news to residents, since flippers are really low since many units are left..
*
DSL for EM, even with 4 different sizes starting from 600k also almost sold off, this goodview already launch so long still have so many 22 x 80 units unsold, pity loh...

If later phase got cluster / semid, dunno can sell 10% or not... shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
samkps
post Sep 20 2014, 01:26 AM

10k Club
********
Senior Member
15,454 posts

Joined: Nov 2011
QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 20 2014, 01:20 AM)
wow, hmm I am preety sure you were informed orally, well then again, project is not as hot as SEH which starts 403k, could be a good news to residents, since flippers are really low since many units are left..
*
The condition is... goodview project no good, even flipper also dun want... not to mention about the home buyers, all stay away, no wonder sales so slow...
samkps
post Sep 20 2014, 01:31 AM

10k Club
********
Senior Member
15,454 posts

Joined: Nov 2011
QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 20 2014, 01:26 AM)
that is fact isn't? goodview need not take loans? I didnt mention can't sell off , i mentioned lowering the chance..

no valuation , but got market = higher chance of disposing
no valuation, no market= no hope
got valuation, no market = worthwhile to hold

developers in built & sell not only had used up their own monies to construct , if they cant sell, most probably they will hold it as cost already incurred... this lowered the risk of abandoned projects to existing buyers

other developers who are sell and built , and yet still have units left despite freebies and rebates, hmm, they also can equally hold, but just product no good, so easy of an entry also cant sell off..
*
Tell me, how can a project no valuation but got market? It must be something unique on that project, no?

build and sell can reduce abandon project, no doubt of it, but whether build and sell can reduce flipper? The answer is no loh, just different group of flipper will target it, especially those with stronger holding power loh..

So regardless developer or individual as flippers, both also hold the risk, no different one...
samkps
post Sep 20 2014, 01:35 AM

10k Club
********
Senior Member
15,454 posts

Joined: Nov 2011
QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 20 2014, 01:30 AM)
of course what, no rooms for flipping or less likely, supports the theme devoid of flippers
*
A project even flipper also dun want... pity... sales so slow...

Take a comparison.

A developer build 1000 houses, all sold off, let say 60% flipper, so still 400 houses occupy. This maybe the case for SEH.

A developer build 1000 houses, sold 200 only, let say 60% flipper, so only 120 houses occupy. This maybe the case for goodview...

That's the meaning flipper also dun want... pity loh...




samkps
post Sep 20 2014, 01:37 AM

10k Club
********
Senior Member
15,454 posts

Joined: Nov 2011
QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 20 2014, 01:30 AM)
of course what, no rooms for flipping or less likely, supports the theme devoid of flippers
*
The meaning is flippers also dun want... home stay lagi dun dun dun dun want lah, you so naive ah BBW? brows.gif brows.gif
samkps
post Sep 20 2014, 01:41 AM

10k Club
********
Senior Member
15,454 posts

Joined: Nov 2011
QUOTE(doomdoom @ Sep 20 2014, 01:28 AM)
of course la..let me list out good view heights..

1. near by kajang prison, very near, not good for security, some more non gated project, be careful on the prisoner
2. nearby nirvana, very near, not good for fengshui, too close to death spirit
3. non Chinese area, cannot appreciate much..this is from bear statement
4. not easy to do grocery shopping, nearest is tesco kajang or tesco semenih which also 7-10km away, the best distance will be less than 5km
5. far from kl, jam...need 2 hours to reach..this is from bear statement
6. not direct access link, need make big U turn and pay toll, time and money wasted.
7. nearby rock mountains, lots of rock blasting activity will happen in future whcih will affect on house foundation,wall crack
8. workmanship poor, actual units shown already got big big wall crack
9. no any international school nearby
*
One more, sales slow, only flippers, another goodview ghost town is making... tongue.gif tongue.gif
samkps
post Sep 20 2014, 01:47 AM

10k Club
********
Senior Member
15,454 posts

Joined: Nov 2011
QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 20 2014, 01:39 AM)
I think we shall not be making such statements, making absolute statements like no guaranteed no flippers, is not right.

lowering the risk is a better word. no one can stop flippers for sure, there are class of flippers, you aware of it, strong holding powers flippers do need to evaluate that built & sell will vp next year 2015 May, even they ahd the holding power, where is the price going?

728k to 928k on May 2015?, there are still a lot of 3 storey new 20 X65 in Bandar Mahkota cheras waiting for sale like Quartz villa, sunstone ville? developers sell, we are talking about subsales on May 2015...

if you say they will hold it another 3 years, they get to service the loans, full sums.. and then sell at 928k.. that means that they hold an anticipated 3 years before selling?

even this is the case, they did service 3 years of full loans, compared to SEH (DIBS intact) 2 years doing nth, only service and can sell immediately.. dont you think flippers of hat class will prefer?

further, flippers with strong holding who wish holding it then sell, means that these flippers had the vision that this project will boom, even 3 years after also can sell, good thing to goodview, got potential, but contradicts your earlier statement of ghost town in d making.. hmm.gif

still see a difference between an individual vs developers, at least the latent damages are covered in built & sell (longer warranties)
*
You really dun understand bbw..

See the condition:

People buy goodview - subsale from developer at 728k, if developer launch for sell and build (1 year ago), sale price maybe just 550k.

People buy SEH - subsale from individual at 728k, as the developer launch sell and build, sale price 550k as well.


Any different ah? The only different is one developer untung, one individual untung, both also flipper mah, got different meh?

This post has been edited by samkps: Sep 20 2014, 01:49 AM
samkps
post Sep 20 2014, 01:48 AM

10k Club
********
Senior Member
15,454 posts

Joined: Nov 2011
QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 20 2014, 01:41 AM)
then the risk goes back to the developers, so justify or not? developers tagging such price?
*
I dun see why, if a goodview buyer in then how? he no need to bear ah, the developer bears for him ah?
samkps
post Sep 20 2014, 01:51 AM

10k Club
********
Senior Member
15,454 posts

Joined: Nov 2011
QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 20 2014, 01:42 AM)
like something everyone wish, but cannot buy.. maybe cars fancy cars?
*
That's why I say, that's must be some unique feature on the project, that's why no valuation also got market. But how many project can be like that, very rare loh..

4 Pages < 1 2 3 4 >Top
Topic ClosedOptions
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0265sec    1.21    7 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 20th December 2025 - 12:25 AM