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post May 17 2017, 12:47 PM

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Well, my 2011 pc with a non-k i5 2500 just died. I already pulled the trigger and awaiting parts delivery for a Ryzen, but I'm the sort that have constant second thoughts (or buyer's remorse).

Ryzen5 1600
Asus Prime B350 Plus motherboard
2x8GB Geil 3000mhz RAM (listed in the QVL)
Samsung 850 EVO 250gb
Seagate 2TB Barracuda

Going to reuse my 1060GTX Zotac 6GB AMP, since my monitor is only 1080p.

Overclocking isn't one of my priorities.
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post May 17 2017, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(jianng @ May 17 2017, 06:02 PM)
blink.gif  my frez 1500x come with cooler Wraith Spire
my budget for GPU is only RM500-600
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Give this video a look. I like this channel, very factual and emphasis on value for money.




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post May 17 2017, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(jianng @ May 17 2017, 11:21 PM)
thanks bro, i juz saw this morning btw thats my budget problem, 1050 and 1050ti which cp more higher?
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Maybe you can shave some more savings? What made you choose 1500x instead of plain 1500 or 1600? Do you plan to overclock? If so, why? Pure gaming? Then you're better off investing in a better graphic card.


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post May 17 2017, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(jianng @ May 17 2017, 11:40 PM)
erm...i dont know overclock, hehe...but i hear that the 1500 can auto oc rite?

i juz play maplesea>sf2>GTA5(soon) when im free, this pc is for my work station also, will work with ps and ai, and also company store system~

if i choose amd then i will try get RM500-RM600 gpu, but if intel i can gpu buy on future
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All Ryzen chips can be overclocked. The X ones are higher clock speed and a little bit more settings for advanced users.

Be aware that Ryzen do not have integrated graphics, you actually need a GPU for display. If you are planning to wait, then you should reconsider. Think about your priorities for the new PC, whether you actually need it or not. Maybe you could just get by with an upgrade here or there.

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post May 18 2017, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(jianng @ May 18 2017, 12:00 AM)
yeap, so if i choose Ryzen, i must buy a graphics card with my cpu~

if i get APU should i need to use graphics card for gta5?

sorry for my bad english, can i know the mean of "Maybe you could just get by with an upgrade here or there"
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I actually don't know much about AMD, this week I will be getting my first AMD machine ever (Ryzen5 1600 with 16GB RAM) to replace my year 2011 i5-2500. I'm a little better off as I already have a 1060 GTX 6GB from the old pc to put in the new one. In fact I wouldn't want to replace it at all if not for the motherboard failure, I was happily playing Mass Effect Andromeda on High settings at 1080p on my i5-2500 with 8GB RAM.

What I meant was if you're tight for budget, maybe you should save up more first and upgrade a part or two in your existing machine, stuff that can be brought over to your new computer in the future: eg graphic card or a SSD drive. I joined this thread late, I do not know what your existing machine is, but it seems to me that if you're changing a new PC for gaming then you should get 16GB Ram and at least a 1060 card to see a massive upgrade in gaming experience in 2017.

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post May 18 2017, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(jianng @ May 18 2017, 08:47 AM)
1400, 1500x, 1600 which cp more higher?no consider 1600x becoz no cooler(but i will change watercooler future)

when i plan to built this pc the 1st cpu is i3-7100 then i5 7500 now Ryzen hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif RM529>RM909>RM???
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You can test drive tongue.gif

Since it's an entire cybercafe of Ryzens, maybe someone there can give you more advice.

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post May 18 2017, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(jianng @ May 18 2017, 09:53 PM)
RM1069 by jayacom!, any other dealer with cheaper price?

RM1069+mb Prime B350-PlusRM533/B350 Tomahawk RM645+GPU RM600=RM2314+Ram 8GB RM280=RM2594 with etc RM3000 hahaha
my budget from RM1200-RM2000 now jump to RM3000, my boss know it will killed me!haha whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(tongaz86 @ May 18 2017, 10:15 PM)
ZOTAC GTX 1050TI MINI 4GB - RM719
INTEL G4560 - RM299
ASROCK B250M-HDV - RM349
KINGSTON VALUE DDR4 2133MHZ 8GB - RM290
KINGSTON UV400 240GB - RM399
SILVERSTONE ST500 - RM229
AIGO STARSHIP 2 - RM149

TOTAL - RM2434

Intel counter part still offer lesser price. Wait till Ryzen 3 if want save budget. Vega GPU might drive RX500 series price lower to.
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Agree, see the following for something similar.


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post May 19 2017, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(Patent @ May 19 2017, 11:51 AM)
Those are m-atx  sweat.gif
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These? https://www.lelong.com.my/catalog/all/list?TheKeyword=a320m

Model names to look for: http://www.pcgamer.com/msi-introduces-five...ards-for-ryzen/

Sorry, seems you're looking for mini-itx... I guess you can wait for Biostar to arrive.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/biostar-m...yzen,34172.html

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post May 21 2017, 05:31 PM

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So my machine finally came.

Ryzen5 1600
16GB RAM GeiL Super-Luce 3000mhz
Asus Prime B350 Plus

For the heck of it I pressed the Asus AI Suite 3's Auto Tuning and it gave me 3.5ghz auto overclock. Ok, but I was just testing it. But is there no way to return to default values? There isn't even a default profile in the suite. I manually set the clock back to 3.2 but I don't know whether the voltages and such were affected. I went to bios and load optimized settings, but I read that they would be overwritten by the the Suite's profile once in Windows.

On a side note, the bios did detect my RAM's DOCP of 2933mhz (which I was skeptical since it was Taiwanese and the particular model was not listed in the QVL, and not much internet presence), so if there are people looking for relatively cheaper RAM with breathing lights you can perhaps consider it.

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post May 21 2017, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(llk @ May 21 2017, 06:11 PM)
Means u have applied docp for 2933mhz? Check with cpuz see the memory speed is running at 2933mhz or not?
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post May 21 2017, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(Lurker @ May 21 2017, 07:30 PM)
Asus ai suite kinda sucky
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I can't believe there's no default or restore function after the auto-tuning. How do I know if it has messed with other settings?

I also don't know how to overclock it over the bios. In videos I see people simply typing a number (eg 37 or 44) in the core ratio, but for me it is greyed out after I put to manual and two sub options FID and DID appeared... also greyed out.
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post May 21 2017, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(llk @ May 21 2017, 07:15 PM)
That's right, your ram is running at 2933mhz, seem this model not bad at all
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If you are curious, this is what they looked like. From their very barebones website it seems they actually just released the same kits but specifically for Ryzen.


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post May 21 2017, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(llk @ May 21 2017, 08:29 PM)
What do u means by grey out? It shown 'Auto' in the box? U can just type the number.
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Am I missing something?

edit: I actually never tried typing into the box, I did remember pressing up and down and there were only Auto and Manual. I'll see later.

Don't mind the RAM @ 2133, I loaded optimized defaults to write all the values down as a physical reference.

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post May 21 2017, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(llk @ May 21 2017, 08:29 PM)
What do u means by grey out? It shown 'Auto' in the box? U can just type the number.
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I'm so dumb. So I just have to type into the box (not my fault, no prompt appeared!). I saw the little dropdown menu and assumed there was only Auto and Manual, never expecting that I could actually type into the box.
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post May 21 2017, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(llk @ May 21 2017, 09:38 PM)
This is mine, should be similar since both are asus mobo
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Yes, quite. Time for more in-depth research... though for single player gaming purposes I read that the gains are not much unless it's extreme overclocking (a few more frames) compared to productivity application. Of course, this is game-dependent but it seems the ones that gain the most are multiplayer titles, which I have little interest besides Hearthstone.
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post May 22 2017, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(llk @ May 22 2017, 02:51 PM)
Do u facing 'cold boot' issue? Mean when you power on your pc from power off state after few seconds the system will shut down & auto power on again to boot into Windows?
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What does that mean if that happens?

Asus Prime B350 Plus here.
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post May 24 2017, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(llk @ May 22 2017, 09:10 PM)
As far as i know it only happened on Asus crosshair hero motherboard, i believe your model doesn't affected. At this moment nobody have exact answer why this happened, some peoples have it some not, still hoping next bios update can solve this weird behavior.
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Don't be too sure, I think it just happened to me. The system beeped once (only once), the fans died down and whirred back up 3 times before I even see the Asus In Search of Incredible splashscreen, and then into Windows normally. CPU-Z still says I'm on 3000mhz RAM though.


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post May 24 2017, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(llk @ May 24 2017, 04:34 PM)
This symptom i faced before, now reduced to one time only per boot  biggrin.gif
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Well, what did you do? On latest Bios 0609.
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post May 24 2017, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(llk @ May 24 2017, 04:49 PM)
I have different board with you, i update to new beta bios.
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Did the beta bios notes say what was fixed, ie did they say what the problem actually was?
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post Jun 20 2017, 03:53 PM

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Updated my Asus Prime B350 Plus to BIOS 0803 with AGESA 1.0.0.6. Mmmmmm no more cold boot issues~

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