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keledek
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Apr 18 2017, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Apr 18 2017, 05:10 PM) Waiting motherboard, SSD and RGB lighting  Hi just menyibuk coz saw your RAM Gskill Trident Z. I bought a pair few weeks ago but my DDR4 3200 can only go 2400 only being Hynix module single rank Hope yours is 3600 since it may me Samsung ones and can get to 3200 at least Anyway hope u won the silicon lottery
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keledek
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Apr 18 2017, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(silrave @ Apr 18 2017, 10:20 PM) guys i got 3 piece of 8gb 2400hz normal ram should be no issue on running ryzen right? Hi maybe test each stick one by one. Start from 2133 see if runs stable then overclock I think am4 and ryzen likes cl14. Mine cl16 only able to go 2400 when when cl set 14 If 3 ram slots populated it cant do dual channel speeds, correct me if im wrong
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keledek
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Apr 19 2017, 07:57 AM
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QUOTE(llk @ Apr 18 2017, 11:05 PM) Ryzen more prefer Samsung B die chip, so far DDR4 that confirmed using B die chip are GSkill Trident Z 3200mhz CL14 & GSkill Flare X 3200mhz CL14, too bad both of these models not import to Malaysia, Trident Z 3200mhz CL16 most likely using Samsung E die chip or Hynix. DDR4 RAM price is going to increase as the news are circulating now. Those higher clocked ones are even pricier Expexted to be so until samsung and hynix get better yield by next year Some youtuber were able to overclock cheapo RAMs to 3000+ speeds. As long as they are cl14 ones
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keledek
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Apr 19 2017, 08:51 AM
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QUOTE(llk @ Apr 19 2017, 08:34 AM) U are right,im planning to buy Gskill 3200mhz cl14 from overseas which estimated price including shipping rm900++ since my Corsair ram are used for my x99 platform Man thats expensive but maybe cheaper than buying locally. At least branded ram has warranty so it should run at the xmp specs on intel board at least. Saw on lelong.my a ddr ram programmer that can re write the xmp profile on ram sticks. Beware when buying cheap rams guys
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keledek
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Apr 21 2017, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(llk @ Apr 19 2017, 10:17 PM) Its also depends on motherboard, may i know which motherboard you will be using? Based on my understanding, RAM speed higher than 2400 depends on : Ryzen chip internal IMC quality (?assembled in China ones better than ones assembled in Malaysia), Motherboard quality (and is UEFI), RAM Module itself (Samsung B die, single rank and CAS 14 or lower). However it seems gain as speed increase has diminishing return ie big gain from 2133 to 2666 then modest from 2666 to 3200 and minimal from 3200 above. Also each program or games will react differently with increased RAM speed. Some no benefit at all. It seems sweet spot is 2999 However i still think we should get the RAM speed that we paid for
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keledek
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Apr 21 2017, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 21 2017, 12:50 PM) Ryzen of made in china? made in malaysia? still havent proof tat which one is better. Before, got a review site stated that the cpu in hand, china is better a bit than malaysia, but after he take two more silicon for each made in? there is better malaysia made in as well. In conclusion, just a random silicon lottery for ryzen. To get higher speed ram work, just get the best ram u can afford which in QVL list of mobo u want or u have. Ryzen chip is diffused in USA but assembled in either China or Malaysia if not mistaken BTW QVL list is not a guaranteed list of RAMS that will work at stated sanctioned OC speed. Its only list that internal mobo manufacturers has tested "extensively" (whatever that really means). Look an Newegg review, many who bought couldnt manage to get to the OC speeds. But chances they will work / allow computer to boot is much higher in my opinion. I would recommend buy the lowest CAS 14 -15 only to have higher likelyhood to be able to go to OC speeds Cheers!
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keledek
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May 22 2017, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(Someonesim @ May 22 2017, 02:45 PM) At least Asus are fast updating BIOS. My asrock x370 killer sli, last BIOS was for AGESIS 1.0.0.4a from April ! Few weeks already but no newer BIOS  out of curiosity I go check X370 taichi, got new BIOS mid of May. That one 1.0.0.4a too Fixed the reset all timing after change manual bclk value Youre not missing anything much yet
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keledek
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Jun 9 2017, 09:18 PM
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Asrock X370 Taichi 2.4 Bios out (Agesa 1.0.0.6). My Gskill Trident GTZR now runs at the speed that its supposed to run @3200. Hynix Single Rank A die 8GBx2. Woohoo. Next see if Rx Vega is worth it in ?August?September p.s didnt boot on the first few tries until i had to manually re type in the DRAM settings for each and lower down Tras from 56 to 58 if that would help others
This post has been edited by keledek: Jun 9 2017, 09:19 PM
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keledek
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Jun 9 2017, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Jun 9 2017, 09:38 PM) Yes CL16 one  load xmp profile retype all DRAM settings again (same numbers) Only value changed was Tras bank cycle time from 56 to 58 Bamm 3200MHz This post has been edited by keledek: Jun 9 2017, 09:45 PM
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keledek
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Jun 10 2017, 10:00 AM
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Only minor issue now is Typhoon program (free ver) only reads my RAM once then dont report anymore. Need to close the prog, wait some time then will read again but again only once. Dont know if its due to the nature/limitation thats its free or not.
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keledek
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Jun 10 2017, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(seichirosano @ Jun 10 2017, 10:17 AM) ops, after i restart computer twice. not that stable already, sometime can pass windows sometimes can't. i haven't manually try to set the timings yet, will try when i reach home see whether it's still the same  . I noticed earlier that if just loading XMP profile, the DRAM setting picked to use by my mobo is for CL15 and not the JEDEC programmed 16 18 18 18 36 one. IINM read somewhere non Samsung B die odd DRAM setting numbers doesnt agree with Ryzen IMC for some reason. (Although my RAMs ran at CL 14 on Bios 2.0 (@2400MHz - max able to boot ..sigh) and then ran at CL15 on Bios 2.3 (also @2400 Mhz max). I just did a "might as well lah..." thing and re type all the DRAM setting manually again (thinking how stupid it is just retyping same numbers) and was surprised it booted and used the CL16 setting now.
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keledek
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Jun 10 2017, 11:17 AM
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wow, i really cant wait to try manually set it now. was using xmp 2.0 16-18-18-18-35 1.2v[/quote] i would believe XMP would use overclocked voltage of 1.35v if not mistaken i feel lucky since everything else was default. Didnt need to play with all those SOC or proc odt voltages
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keledek
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Jun 12 2017, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE(shanetsh @ Jun 11 2017, 04:23 PM) I still can't get better results on my msi board. But asrock is sending me a taichi so fingers crossed. Mind if we link up on Facebook so I can perhaps pick your brain on some overclocking settings bro? Bro i'm just like you, learning bits and pieces from online (AMD Reddit etc), not really an avid geek/tech overclocker
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keledek
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Jun 13 2017, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(seichirosano @ Jun 12 2017, 09:46 PM) guys, is something wrong with my ram or my mobo, cause sometime when i enter bios the ram stated is in dual channel, sometimes in single channel but still shows total of 16gb. but when i enter cpu-z it shows dual channel. May i suggest do simple tests first Revert to default ie no overclocking setting 1) Check RAM health - install only 1 ram stick - use built in Windows Memory Diagnostic - search memory and you'll get there. Test for each RAM stick More extensive may use Memtest86+, also check each stick separately 2) If RAM is ok, then maybe mother board issue Just a suggestion
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keledek
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Jun 14 2017, 08:31 AM
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QUOTE(seichirosano @ Jun 13 2017, 09:04 PM) bro, i've heed your advise and did ram mem test, though i didn't unplug and test one by one. (both are ok) another thing i found out is that my ram CMK8GX4M1A2666C16 is not listed in asrock QVL list, is that one of the reason that its acting this way? the model name is so similar  Hi, QVL List is a "guide". ie not all RAM listed will work at rated speed and vice versa. Do you have a friend with another RAM kit that you could borrow and try? if problem persist maybe its the motherboard
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keledek
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Jun 14 2017, 11:52 AM
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QUOTE(seichirosano @ Jun 14 2017, 11:34 AM) unfortunately no. but now somehow i have issue booting from cold now. need go bios and reset xmp profile 2.0 and bios auto restart 3 times then can boot to windows, otherwise will stuck at "Asrock Sapphire" logo (booting from cold or setting the profile to auto). Hi, Sorry to hear that Boot cycle is the bios AM4 boot training, if fails to boot up from cold. This can be reset. I set mine to 1x only so if cant boot to all default/auto setting, to be able to boot to windows. If you get to bios and set XMP 2.0 it will try to boot train and if cant it will boot to default. So if to leave on default dont set XMP profile (leave it auto) I did get the lock screen on boot with code 4d error too before. usually clear CMOS button settles this issue Just to share, my RAMS RC (DRAM) timing only works on 58 to hit 3200MHz. relax or tightening timings will not boot at all and go default. I m certain future bioses will find more memory holes to correct on more memory kits
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keledek
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Jun 14 2017, 11:52 AM
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QUOTE(seichirosano @ Jun 14 2017, 11:34 AM) unfortunately no. but now somehow i have issue booting from cold now. need go bios and reset xmp profile 2.0 and bios auto restart 3 times then can boot to windows, otherwise will stuck at "Asrock Sapphire" logo (booting from cold or setting the profile to auto). Hi, Sorry to hear that Boot cycle is the bios AM4 boot training, if fails to boot up from cold. This can be reset. I set mine to 1x only so if cant boot to all default/auto setting, to be able to boot to windows. If you get to bios and set XMP 2.0 it will try to boot train and if cant it will boot to default. So if to leave on default dont set XMP profile (leave it auto) I did get the lock screen on boot with code 4d error too before. usually clear CMOS button settles this issue Just to share, my RAMS RC (DRAM) timing only works on 58 to hit 3200MHz. relax or tightening timings will not boot at all and go default. I m certain future bioses will find more memory holes to correct on more memory kits
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keledek
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Jun 14 2017, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE(seichirosano @ Jun 14 2017, 12:44 PM) now i understand why cant run on 2666mhz after you explained, after boot cycle 3 times i think they set it back to default setting meaning xmp profile still not working for me and if i set it to auto instead of xmp profile can't boot at all, all light indicator on but cant reach windows. Hi You can try set xmp profile but choose lower speed ie2400 (in the speed drop down menu) and see if you can get into windows If you could then you may try overclock it slowly upwards to 2666mhz by relaxing timings, up soc voltage or change proc odt to around 60 ohms.... the choices and mix is long. Maybe the sifus here can guide you
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keledek
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Jun 17 2017, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(seichirosano @ Jun 16 2017, 11:17 PM) bro, i think i've found the problem. today after i can't boot into windows (stuck in Asorck | sapphire screen) i've went ahead and try each ram. i tried placing 1 ram at a time and boot, Ram A did fine but Ram B can't boot. After that i try to set XMP profile on Ram A and Woila!! it's running in 2666mhz with 1.2v so im guessing the Ram B is causing the issue.  but the sad thing is don't know whats wrong with Ram B, i've messaged the seller see what he can do.  oh ya, another funny thing is i've tried playing both ram and boot Ram A in slot 2 / Ram B in slot 4 can't boot. but if i did it vice versa it can boot.  not sure about this but Ram B seems to be always in Dual in cpu z under spd tab. Ram A will be single. Hi, Try use typhoon software (its free demo) and see each RAM stick information and compare them. a kit should be almost identical pair at least you know that your RAMS are not a good pair/kit try to get exchange (the pair/kit) 1 to 1 if possible This post has been edited by keledek: Jun 17 2017, 11:25 AM
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keledek
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Jun 21 2017, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(llk @ Jun 20 2017, 07:36 PM) God dammit Asus! So call flagship board Crosshair hero till now hasn't got official agesa 1.0.0.6 bios, although my ram can do 3200mhz without issue but the cold boost is so annoying everytime i start my pc  Asrock released agesa 1006 to the Fatality board first (their high end) before Taichi (mid range). although in forums beta ones are for Taichi only (i guess Taichi board owners are lab rats). So strange of asus to not release for the cross hair hero 6 first
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