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post Oct 27 2015, 07:03 PM

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Guys wanna ask if the Gold Investment Account is credible? In event of bank runs, how confident are you that you can withdraw the gold physically?
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post Oct 27 2015, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(knight @ Oct 27 2015, 08:43 PM)
Someone once told me before also. If you buy physical gold, where will you keep it?? For safety, you keep it in back in the bank also. Haha. Kinda make some sense also.

I'm currently on UOB gold. Not bad the buy/sell margin I can say. But I hate it that I have to find time to go to the bank to purchase it.  wink.gif
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I think you can withdraw physically once it hits a certain weight right? I guess no way around it then. Good luck on your gold collection. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 28 2015, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(call me random @ Oct 28 2015, 12:39 PM)

i never manage to confide myself in it.

GIAs are usually not backed by physicals, the account itself not PIDM protected. u buy n sell around the spot price but if u want withdraw take cimb for example, minimum 100g, fee of rm10 per gram.

worth it? wink.gif

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Yes totally worth it, know that spot gold price is not what it seems to be, real gold price is much much higher.
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post Oct 28 2015, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(knight @ Oct 28 2015, 02:13 PM)
Lol. All also say back by real gold. Even the banks. I bet they just have some amount of gold in the bank and in reality, the just get your money to invest other things. When you want get it only they will grab some from their inventory.

But still, in case of anything happens and you are forced to flee from the country, you most likely wont get back your gold. For me, this is just to secure the wealth value but not investment for me.
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Yes I think the safest method is to buy and withdraw as physical gold immediately. I also suspected they are practising fractional gold reserve, keep some portion on the vault and sell more gold certificates. This will be a problem when all wanna withdraw at the same time, i.e. during crisis.
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post Oct 28 2015, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(call me random @ Oct 28 2015, 02:25 PM)
why not just buy physical?

the point i asked u previously is it worth it is so i suggest u to shop around and compare the price, how much monwy will get u how much gold smile.gif

if u insist to buy fr bank, not fr any online stores, just walk in to UOB.
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Yeah I wonder is there a difference? My intuition was in physical there would be a bit of premium? Since you can buy it directly. hmm.gif
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post Oct 28 2015, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(call me random @ Oct 28 2015, 02:47 PM)
ok gip u example take cimb again cos i never read other bank T&C

in order for u to have physical - min 100g. say price now is rm165.
http://www.maybank2u.com.my/mbbfrx/gold_rate.htm (cant find cimb price lols but should not be much diff)
so u gonna need (rm165+rm10)x100g (ignore any other processing fee anything if theres any) = rm17.5k

for direct buy physical

https://www.buysilvermalaysia.com/shop/prod...g-999-Gold-Bar/
RM 16,431.95 (i think free shipping)
see u can save rm1k in this instance.

but as low as few hundred also u can already lay ur hand on ur gold piece physically. its good to have small fractions of sizes instead of just one big one.
small size, yes, premiums cos the need wrap or little piece nicely, small small.
big one no need. cincai cast no need wrap also. no need add premium, god discount instead.. so to speak la hehe

for other institution, u can ask zodd cos he got sell paper n physical gold under one roof.. correct?

hope this helps
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Wow didnt know its cheaper to buy physical gold directly than buy from the bank. By the way, are the sites that you mentioned above trustable? What happens if they dont deliver? sweat.gif
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post Oct 29 2015, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(kEITh_22b @ Oct 29 2015, 06:44 PM)
Gold plunged to 115x shortly after touching 118x very briefly (just few minutes after my last post above)...

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Anyway, regardless of the above; It is currently for one to formulate good judgment to decide on whether it is ideal time to buy gold, or to sell it... (Of course, our MYR inflation also currently plays quite a big factor to our gold trade decision in Msia...)
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These are graphs from COMEX right? Dont trust COMEX so much because it is heavily manipulated...
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post Oct 30 2015, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(kEITh_22b @ Oct 30 2015, 07:03 PM)
I got it from my UK FX broker technical analysis (FxPro). It has been reasonably reliable...

Anyway, gold may not rise anytime for now...;

Gold spot Intraday: under pressure.

Pivot: 1157

Most Likely Scenario: Short positions below 1157 with targets @ 1138 & 1131 in extension.

Alternative scenario: Above 1157 look for further upside with 1162.5 & 1168.5 as targets.

Comment: As long as 1157 is resistance, likely decline to 1138.
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The question is not reliability. If I have billions and I wanna manipulate the market by buying and selling simultaneously to push price down you think this is doable or not?
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post Oct 31 2015, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(kEITh_22b @ Oct 31 2015, 02:55 AM)
I'm not sure about this (not sure if FxPro is so strong enough to manipulate the market like you're implying, or will they do such a thing)...
Not sure about you guys in here, but for me personally, a slight increase/decrease does make a difference to my decision (to buy or to sell);

For example, if the USD rise to 4.45 MYR once again, or if gold rise to 1180 per-ounce once again, or if our MYR get weaker...; until the price of gold hit MYR53xx per ounce once again (which already did a few times very recently), then I can decide to go sell my gold already (because I brought some when it was around MYR4000+ per ounce last time)

It really makes a difference because just a day before (for example), 1 ounce rose to MYR53xx, but look at it right now; where 1 ounce = MYR51xx

Now I'm really not sure whether gold is set to continue falling, or will it rise back again to 117x - 118x level (would be nice for it to touch 119x - 1200 level)

Looking at the historical trend of gold really freaks me out (what if; gold will continue to slide to <1000 - 900 - 800 level as the experts are predicting...);
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Dont worry about small fluctuations in price, when SHTF you will realize your effort to save a few hundred ringgit is not worth it. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 9 2015, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(nagflar @ Nov 9 2015, 04:01 PM)
i hope u are right . i buy 30k when the price is aroud rm160 perg. after drop like crazy . i will take this as my retired fun...
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When SHTF, even your retirement funds evaporates like thin air...
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post Nov 25 2015, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(Schuan @ Nov 25 2015, 10:00 AM)
goldprice drop to the six year low. Anyone buying it now? Is this the right timing?
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You are talking about paper gold price right? Those are future gold prices, not the price of physical gold. There is a difference. brows.gif
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post Nov 26 2015, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(sinbad2k @ Nov 25 2015, 10:00 PM)
Technically, gold spot price is determined by the gold prices in the futures market. In a way, you can say that's the gold's future price (at a pre-determined period). The fact is, physical gold are priced according to the spot price plus some premium which is not too far off usually.
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Yes but good luck buying physical gold at the spot price. A good sign of market manipulation is you have cheap price but you cant buy the goods. rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 26 2015, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 26 2015, 12:26 PM)
Gold is a commodity, how could it hedge against inflation?
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If you dont understand it, you havent done your homework. Btw, forget what mainstream economics and media tells you. Search for alternative POV and research instead. brows.gif
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post Nov 26 2015, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 26 2015, 01:01 PM)
Gold spot price movement is independent of/unrelated to inflation rate in Malaysia. How could it hedge against inflation in Malaysia or any other country?
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Like I said before, do your own homework. You will know much more.
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post Nov 26 2015, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 26 2015, 01:01 PM)
Gold spot price movement is independent of/unrelated to inflation rate in Malaysia. How could it hedge against inflation in Malaysia or any other country?
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Like I said before, do your own homework. You will know much more.
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post Mar 14 2021, 12:05 PM

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Anybody here owning Bitcoin? It's good to diversify your portfolio.


 

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