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post Sep 16 2014, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(infernoaswen @ Sep 16 2014, 12:35 AM)
Nice, new thread  rclxms.gif

Price is going up again  sweat.gif Hopefully it will crash further  laugh.gif Plan to buy some end of the month  hmm.gif
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seconded. i hope i can refrain myself fr shopping so much so can hv extra money by the end of this month..
already got some precious metal earlier thsi month, no more allocation, lol
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post Sep 20 2014, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(heng5410 @ Sep 18 2014, 03:41 PM)
Hi, I would like to ask why there is a huge difference between the price of gold in bank and the physical gold bar bought from Poh Kong? At CIMB GIA price is 120 something and at Poh Kong it is 160 now.
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really 999 gold bar fr poh kong is rm160 ar?
cheapest i quoted before is rm180 wor.

u dont mean the display price at the panel there dont u? sweat.gif
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post Sep 23 2014, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Sep 23 2014, 12:21 AM)
i think nubex is better if you are worried if it's trustworthy or not..
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but nubex use taqbin courier it took forever before delievered to ur hand.
luckily the customer service is reachable via online chat dont hv to call n such.
otherwise nubex is nice, the price offerings also competitive thumbup.gif
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post Sep 25 2014, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(oniomaniac @ Sep 24 2014, 09:00 PM)
Hi everyone,

I was approached by a fren in fb saying there is a great opportunity for gold investment.
All I need to do is to put money in, let's say RM1800 for a lot.

I will get back RM1500 in a month. And for the subsequent 5 months I will get like RM300++. And the project is over and restart back the cycle.

What kind of investment is this?
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its everywhere in this subforum now.. perhaps you could ask the person whats the risk involved..
investment always involves risk. at that rate of return, the risk cant be low i suppose?
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post Sep 28 2014, 09:01 PM

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dont climb up just yet tunggu gaji liao sweat.gif
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post Sep 30 2014, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(tchtax @ Sep 30 2014, 05:21 PM)
Have a feeling it will head south tonite or tomorrow....
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talk about having placed order everything n seeing the live pricing dragging the items prices down yet u cant do anything and havent even received the said items sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Sep 30 2014, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Sep 30 2014, 11:33 PM)
I know how that feels man. Are you going to get any more gold soon or wait for a few more weeks ?
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thank you for getting me, laugh.gif
nahh my monthly allocation already maxed out
owait who am i kidding, its already over budget.
impulse buying much sweat.gif

but if its go down so much might get like 1g just because. just..because.. lol
dollar cost averaging sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Oct 1 2014, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Oct 1 2014, 05:43 AM)
Agreed with your method of dollar cost averaging. But it isn't really worth to get 1gram bars rights ? Premium is pretty high on it.
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well never acquired one to be frank.. but the lowest priced now is the pamp low cost version going 156+ plus the shipping for 10, 166.. if it gets any lower... could really be a good deal, right?


do u hv any specific limit when it comes to premium of ur purchases?
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post Oct 3 2014, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Oct 3 2014, 11:49 AM)
Not a professional when it comes to buying precious metals but i guess sticking to the minimum of 10g or 20g would be an ideal choice since the spread is smaller.
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thats..few yrs of my hardwork combined, let see.. not even close wor
i should work harder now
gold digger mode on! laugh.gif
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post Oct 3 2014, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Oct 3 2014, 12:44 PM)
Dont rush into it man. Theres various other options that you could invest in.
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i dont really investing actually, just merely saving before starting to invest
perhaps could cash out more money in about 3 yrs time?

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post Oct 3 2014, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Oct 3 2014, 10:22 PM)
Look at the USD! It's getting stronger because US economy is recovering and getting stronger.
The jobs report is pretty strong this month.

Who wants to hold Gold? They're dumping it.  European dumping, China dumping  it.

Get USD and buy US stocks!  They got yield! They got earnings.

Gold is nice to look at.. that's it! Piece of useless metal.
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i still want to believe its precious rather than useless..
i dont get it why the need to sell when price is going down.
gold is less an investment than that of preservation of wealth..

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post Oct 3 2014, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(nicholaskhlow @ Oct 3 2014, 11:05 PM)
Tapering will be completed by end of this year, it means the end of QE. Then rate hike will be expected to happen in end of next year depend on the economy data.The gold price will be further down and hit the bottom then stagnant for a time of period. I dont know how long it will be stagnant but you can check the gold price between 1980s-2000. Bear in mind that you will not earn any interest if u hold gold. However I might be wrong. Good luck!
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alright, while we are at that, what happen to our ringgit value? can gold be better against the inflation or not? say the guy above is right about the USD strengthening, but our gov doing eveything there is signalling the weakening. im paid in ringgit sad.gif
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post Oct 3 2014, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Oct 3 2014, 11:21 PM)
Again, the same argument been made that it is hedge against inflation over and over so many times.

The reality of the fact is there is little or no inflation elsewhere.
Inflation is not happening in the developed market.. only in the emerging market (like Malaysia).
The problem is emerging market like Malaysia does not have enough Gold buyers to move the prices up.
The ringgit is weak and pathetic. Who wants this? Who uses it?

Ask yourself who in the world wants to takes in Ringgit and sell you Gold? Literally nobody outside Malaysia!

Never buy gold in Ringgit terms. It's a losing proposition and downward spiral.
Better put Ringgit in Fixed Deposit for one year - at least can get 3.5% yield or better.
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i dont quite get u now.. ok inflation is due to happen here in malaysia, not in developed market, ok..

as for who would takes in rm for gold.. thats quite the other way around.
we accumulate gold, when we need money we sell gold, takes in the RM. in fact gold is tradable in any other currency.
by currency i do mean the the officials and the unofficials like the bitcoin, the hourmoney and such that has been started to be widely accepted globally

say the i do keep some money, inflation hits hard, i suffer.
if i hv gold, i need to sell the gold, even the price in USD is not getting any higher, chances are, i can get more ringgit than what i have paid before
n some of my savings is in the FD of some sort, that hopefully if doesnt grow as much, can curb the inflation rate even by just a few..

n i dont see why i shouldnt buy gold in ringgit eihter.. mind to shed some more light?
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post Oct 5 2014, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Oct 5 2014, 08:55 PM)
As the world is flooded with money due to QE / stimulus, every item price goes up in relative to the worth of the money. But as the gold standard is no longer used, do you think gold will still be consider a store of value ?

I see not much use for gold except for jewelry and other production use, as such with the scare of USD collapse gone the fair value for gold should be around 1100 ~ 1150 level based on production cost ?
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Good point to ponder there smile.gif
As for me. I like precious metals. For ups n downs hopefully. Not vr firm on that but I wl try to hold on to it n take opportunity to stack should the low price became stagnant..
Some other like rare rocks diamonds sapphire ruby emerald.
Some collects paintings. Some collect antics.
We believe these items hold some value.. And some sentiments to it making the owner pleased to see it even they hold no real measurable value. And suprisingly there are people are willing to to hv that in exchange of great deal of money.

So yeah.. Maybe u can find something u really adore n willing to put ur money to.. It doesn't always have to gold.
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post Oct 6 2014, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Oct 5 2014, 09:36 PM)
Not to forget the guys that love getting luxury watches. I personally have a few friends that opt getting several high end watches like Panerai, AP and certain Rolex models with an aim of preserving the value of the watch. The rolex submariner is definitely a watch that holds its value.

So yeah, make sure that you enjoying buying the goods that you're getting.
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I've been cautiously to not to mention that category laugh.gif
I love watches too.. Among other things. Aesthetics n engineering reason mainly.. W rose gold elements preferably.

Perhaps after I hv enough gold n other things first..
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post Oct 11 2014, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(turion64 @ Oct 11 2014, 04:15 PM)
may i know when is the next QE coming? since the economy is going down..
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iinm read somewhere its eoy... then spot price wl go down n stagnant summore sweat.gif
not very pleasing read i hv came across
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QUOTE(knight @ Oct 9 2014, 05:09 PM)
Now Big question for the year is, will GST applies to Gold?

Anyhow my dilemma stopping me from buying is,

1. Physical Gold, need to get place to store. Storage in Bank need to pay yearly services also. Put at home = Risk.
2. Paper Gold, Buy/Sell spread is high.
3. CIMB/Maybank paper Gold, Convienience and can do online but wide spread of Buy/Sell.
4. UOB, Have to go Bank to do it. And on top of that, must have saving account before getting the gold account. It's a hassle for people nowadays to queue at the bank.

Enlighten me please.
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1. Physical Gold, need to get place to store. Storage in Bank need to pay yearly services also. Put at home = Risk. <--- similarly my concern. but i dont have that much to store at banks also.. need to gamble on this sweat.gif
2. Paper Gold, Buy/Sell spread is high. <---- its not PIDM protected, should u want to liquidate, might have to sell at loss within this 2 yrs. the world has more and more suprises for us. na ah for me. my only saving in banks is in form of investment. need to diversify.
3. CIMB/Maybank paper Gold, Convienience and can do online but wide spread of Buy/Sell. <--- refer above.
4. UOB, Have to go Bank to do it. And on top of that, must have saving account before getting the gold account. It's a hassle for people nowadays to queue at the bank.

plus for the papergolds, u might want to check hows the procedure to get the pysical form of ur gold. CIMB for example can only allow minimum 100g with a certain fee. some only allowed to be collected at main branch in KL. if thats not an issue for u, then go for it.
but always remember the old wisdom, its not urs until u can hold it.

for me, its always crucial to determine the enter and exit strategy. not just applicable for share market, i dont do stocks. but just anything.
i get the tips from a very old timer Comando. before u get in, must plan the easiest way out.
if i want to buy gold using my spare cash, i must hv a way to get the cash back.

and i go anywhere, i reverse parking the car thumbup.gif
(until my straight parking skill so bad because lack of practice lol)

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QUOTE(infernoaswen @ Oct 12 2014, 08:06 PM)
I believe price will go up by 22nd oct (well it recovered a little bit from the crash & now its at USD1223). Price is now low & deepavali is near so I think indians in india will be buying gold soon.

Will be selling mine by end of oct before it crashes further tongue.gif
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QUOTE(knight @ Oct 13 2014, 11:59 AM)
Nice advise. So, in the end your mean is physical Gold is the best of all. But I was wondering, in times when something happen, I can still convert my paper gold and withdraw cash. Ops, I maybe wrong, shouldn't be withdrawing cash already.

Wah..Still very confuse which to go for.
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for me, yes, i hv come to that conclusion.
some sifus in here might not agree on that though. smile.gif

im a hands on person. i need to do stuff prior to write up a manual on how to do stuff. im not a creative person.
so i started small.

any loss made in the process, i take it as a learning curve and the fee to gain knowledge.
coming from a then buyer fr pohkong tomei etc. sweat.gif my dollar cost averaging sheet also doesnt look as good.
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QUOTE(infernoaswen @ Oct 13 2014, 10:49 PM)
If sell I will sell paper gold tongue.gif but see on the price first, if not that much of a difference since they day I bought then no point in selling, better keep & minimize lost biggrin.gif
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ah ic.. i tot physical biggrin.gif

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