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post Nov 30 2014, 01:57 AM

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I wonder how low the gold can be .. I want to buy it when it hits all time low.

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post Nov 30 2014, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Nov 30 2014, 12:39 PM)
Jim Rodgers claimed that it could go as low as 900 so lets see.
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900 !! I want it lower !! Need to get gold coins.
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post Nov 30 2014, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Nov 30 2014, 08:35 PM)
Got my hands on a Canadian Maple a few weeks back and damn its gorgeous wub.gif
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I need to get a few gold coins .. Where do you get a maple coin ??

List of coin I wanted to get

- Kijang Emas coin
- Kelantan Gold coin
- Brunei Gold coin
- Maple Gold coin

Maybe some where in 1oz or 1/2 oz.


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post Nov 30 2014, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(nickcct @ Nov 30 2014, 10:36 PM)
If i wish to open GIA in MBB, i have to open the account by counter or it can be done by online?
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Counter.. they need to issue you Gold book and some document require.
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post Dec 7 2014, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 7 2014, 10:49 AM)
As USD is rising against almost all major currency....wouldn't other country that owes the US credit need to pay  higher amount due to the exchange? wont they eventually default on their debt(especially smaller countries) payment to the US? Higher USD currency seems like benefit US government but its actually a double edge sword...  hmm.gif
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What's so hard ?? Just get USD cause it's major fiat currency and get Physical Gold in case fiat currency falls. Easy. Too much thinking the movement of cash and gold could take years.. so getting both gives relief to your mind.

USD Up, Gold down or Gold Up, USD Down. Apa Lagiii..

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post Dec 12 2014, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Dec 12 2014, 12:36 PM)
IPhone which is supposed to be the start of the smart phone revolution was first released on Jun 2007
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_iPhone

Of course there are other smart phones around but then let's accept it, they are not a threat to Nokia.

The thing is, even though the iphone was release during that time, it would still take I think around 1-2 years to take steam.
Nokia was selling cheap phones even before 2008- 2009. You can get a very cheap phone for aroud RM200 plus. Let's face it.  Even in 2008, iphone probably isn't even a threat to Nokia. Iphone was probably viewed as something that is cool at that time but then only geeks would buy it. Bought 1 phone with the simplest spec for 240 I think. And most people would still be buying Nokia rather then other china brands even if the other china brands are selling for say RM150 because of brand recognision.

Smart Phones did not cause Nokia phones to decrease in price because their price range is totally different. An iphone probably cost around RM2k plus. A ordinary but good Nokia phone cost around RM400-500 plus. So how can you even say that smart phone drove the price of Nokia down?

Companies espacially those that are of the size of Nokia do not sell phones at a loss. The reason why they lose out is because normal mobile phones are not popular. They could still generate a profit if they sell their phones at RM200 if say there is huge demand. The fact is that there is no more demand because people are now buying smart phones. Of course their operation is going to take a hit because of that. You still do not get it do you. It's not deflation that cause Nokia to go downhill, it's demand.

You are again twisting my words. I never said Nokia was always profitable. I said they could still make a profit selling a cheap phone. Obviously they took a hit because of the smart phone revolution. Everyone knows that. But to say that they will not generate a profit just because phones are getting cheaper is total nonsense. Besides, they could still sell higher spec phones at a higher price.

Now you call iphone the answer towards mother of deflation. Are you so desperate? The fact of the matter is, the cost of smart phones is decreasing. Even prior to XiaoMi, Samsung is able to sell a phone with better specs for around RM1200plus. Smart Phones are getting cheaper and cheaper. That is the trend if you take iphone out of the picture which most people pay a premium for not because it's the better phone but because of it's brand. The general trend for smart phone is that they are getting cheaper though. Just because of iphone, you generalize it to the entire smart phone industry. Of course common sense will tell you that if iphone can still remain hot selling at high price, there is very little incentive in the first place to lower the price. But then, if people do not buy iphone because of the brand, you can be pretty sure that the price of iphone will be coming down.

Your assumption here is that people just keep their wealth and do not spend it. The thing is that, people generally do not do that. When you are rich, you still buy things and continue to invest in things. Why can't a person be rich in a gold based currency system? If that person can invent something that everyone needs, people will still buy products from this person. Isn't that what free market is? Selling something that people need and profiting from this? You obviously know nothing about free market economics. If say I am able to come out with an idea and need funding, wouldn't someone who is rich put money into my idea? Why are you assuming that rich people will never spend what they have saved? But I really do not want to discuss this further because it seems your basic understanding of things is lacking.

The thing is, I can tell you are really desperate. So desperate that you are starting to make basic grammer mistakes. You are just trying to justify yourself using whatever means possible.
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With that many stars on your avatar. I'm guessing you don't need to know the difference between GOLD thread and IPHONE thread.

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post Feb 14 2015, 05:44 AM

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I will get more gold ..its for future event. I aint lookn for profit in it.. just security.
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post Aug 21 2015, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(win44 @ Aug 21 2015, 01:41 PM)
Actually i used a simple logic, and go for the lowest spread.
Since i am a newbie, and just want to put some money in gold in case Malaysia economy crash, i choose PAMP coz low spread.

I am not sure if the "gold investment account" is backed by physical gold, or just an imaginary thing following spot gold price.
But as long as spot gold maintain, i am okay.
I have no space to keep physical gold anyway.

Gold seems to be going up during Hongkong/china/malaysia trading hours.
I guess people rushing to buy due to currency problems.
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When di you start opening the gold account ? I open last time when our money was 3.3 ~ 3.4 to USD. It was for long term so I just pick up as much as I can.. Never know the gold price drop.. but then again the RM drop have put me back on when I first bought the gold at it's price !! rclxub.gif So I just felt I loss nothing and gain nothing, back to square one.

Now I will just wait for it to go up like before.. unsure.gif

But it is better to get at least some gold coin for future proof. Don't get those bangles and necklace gold. get Gold coin certified by banks and keep it safe... really really safe since there is an increase of crime rate.
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post Aug 21 2015, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(yolldddd @ Aug 21 2015, 03:12 PM)
What do you think about those pamp gold bars good or bad?
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That depend if you can sell it back for cash.. Gold follow the USD and not RM so it's better to have assurance you can get it worth as you bought it. If you buy from banks, you can sell it to the same bank you bought it and they will acknowledge it as it is certified under their brand.

To purchase other Gold to me is a more risky cause there are some gold which sold have no assurance and might be fake or worst fill with tungsten and some people will not touch it without examining it which includes cutting your gold bar/coin in half and subject to acid test.

For future proof, get bank approve certified gold coin/bar.



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post Aug 21 2015, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(yolldddd @ Aug 21 2015, 04:17 PM)
I agree with you also best get from bank. But as some have mention bank also ran out of physical stock also another problem is that I live in kuching and most bank don't sell physical gold here sad.gif my best bet I guess is still pamp as it is recognized worldwide.
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Gold from bank for sure runs out as people want assurance to sell it back. Try to find out when they can restock it and get it before others can.

I'm from Miri so yeahh... looking at Maybank Gold, buy a coin or two. When I go to the West Malaysia, I might get some from other bank selling gold coins and some dinars.
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post Aug 22 2015, 08:02 AM

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QUOTE(10996455 @ Aug 21 2015, 05:09 PM)
Funny thing a lot ppl never consider if our economy go south who u going to buy yr phiscal gold ??
How u bring a lot gold out of the country ??
How u protect yr gold ??
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It's best to plan for the emergency case. If something happen Gold will always be there as a trade since it will not depreciate in physical condition overtime. Bring gold out of country is easy.
Gold coin and small 100g bar is so small just put them in your wallet lerrr .

How you protect your gold ?? Get safe lerrr... Heavy metal safe. But it's best to be creative. icon_idea.gif

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post Aug 22 2015, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(10996455 @ Aug 21 2015, 11:38 PM)
Ya most gold seller will say that to u.
Worst case scenario,  yr own gold will burden u down then help u .( u can try bring 0.5kg gold bar out of the country then u will know how Mich trouble u can get into XD )
Yr only life line would be connection that help u get out of this country.
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Such unrealistic scenario there .. Are you sure you bought any physical gold before ? 0.5kg gold can cost by the thousandss .. you just simply go overseas and open account there and put your cash is much easier. If you get gold by the grams, it is enough to secure your way outside the country and go to the country where your money resides.

But then we all can see the Greece scenario.. no one leave their country but their cash is stuck and devalue so much till paper toilet. Even there is riot and plunder, usually shops having food stuffs. People still stay at their home to safe guard their belongings.

Gold is the best way to secure the new currency introduce to the state in the future.

Do think Logic and don't troll around here. This is economic scenario not zombie apocalypse.


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post Aug 22 2015, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(yolldddd @ Aug 22 2015, 11:39 AM)
All my gold bar are all pamp's except one kijang emas. Since most of my gold is pamp worst come to worst go to usa to pawn it sure fair deal over there not like here smile.gif
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PAMP Gold I prefer buying from Banks like UOB bank where they are international and certified the PAMP Gold with their brand cert.

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post Aug 22 2015, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(10996455 @ Aug 22 2015, 10:43 AM)
Normal ppl like u buy gold in convention weight my previous boss made them specific for client need. Pls take note domestic flight the airport stuff don't check much stuff where international flight have much strict sop  to follow.
U can try bring gold bar to Philippine and see what happen. This will be the same situation when u try to get out of mal with yr gold + mal in riot condition.
For yr last comment I only can say don't put all yr egg in one basket.
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All in one basket ? You mean buy all gold ? I don't buy all gold, I do keep some foreign cash in account, RM in some and paper gold account. But in one basket if you mean by Malaysia.. that one I need to get hard gold since I can't go to another country like going to Singapore.. and Brunei is crashing as well.


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post Aug 22 2015, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(XtraLeoGecko @ Aug 22 2015, 02:58 PM)
u should try postage deal. To make it safer, ask to deliver to Pusat Poslaju Kuching for self collection.  Then u can collect from there. This method will ensure the parcel will always within custodian n supervision.
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If it was last time I would dare but now with jobs retrenchment due to economy now .. I doubt Postage will be safe. I rather get it myself.


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post Aug 22 2015, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(10996455 @ Aug 22 2015, 03:26 PM)
If u keep foreign cash in mal Acc when economy crush will u be able to access to those money ??
I use foreign account to keep local currency for this very reason.
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I did thought about it, the bank will not close like that since I pick a strong bank brand. HQ in Sg and in my hometown is their branch. I could go to SG and withdraw cash there as well. Still I will always plan for alternative for all type of scenario.
One of the plan scenario is not to fly overseas to get cash but stay at home.

So all I need to put some cash USD & RM / a few Gold coins inside the house sufficient enough to last at least a few months.
In case such scenario do happen, I will ensure I have food storage for a year and currency to boot. Cause by my super logic .. You cant eat cash, Cash / Gold is just an exchange.





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post Sep 16 2015, 02:42 AM

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QUOTE(yolldddd @ Sep 15 2015, 07:01 PM)
Thanks for recommending kijang emas ive bought some already. But I don't really trusts maybank gold account as you can't redeem them in physical gold.last time can now cannot sounds very suspicious to me smile.gif but I tested maybank kijang emas and they are indeed real 999 gold coins so I purchase a few smile.gif
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Where did you buy your Kijang Emas ? I try to buy at my hometown Miri, but they say out of stock and there will not stock up again due to insurance problem. I was like shocking.gif !!

So this time I will be dropping off in KL. Give me info where to get the GOLD Coin.. At least I can sell in my home town if I need to dispose physical gold as they(maybank miri) too ask me eagerly to sell my gold to them .. sweat.gif .


 

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