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 ASN, ASN2, ASN3, ASG, ASB, ASW2020, ASM, ASD, AS1M, AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL BERHAD V6

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hyelbaine
post Dec 1 2014, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Nov 30 2014, 08:43 PM)
Don't know whether was i trolled big time but according to a PM staff, ASNB would be launching a new fund (fixed price) soon for both bumis and non-bumis.

Can anyone confirm this ?
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I'd bet an iced-latte that you were trolled tongue.gif
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post Dec 1 2014, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(champu @ Dec 1 2014, 11:56 AM)
A hypothetical question,

Since ASx is insured by PIDM, in the event of a major bankruptcy/payoff or simply an economy downturn...how are PIDM able to ensure such large sums?

The recent developments of 1Mxx is definitely worrisome.
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PIDM only insures bank deposits and ASx just like any unit trust product isn't covered by PIDM.
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post Dec 18 2014, 12:08 PM

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7.5 sen income distribution and 1 sen bonus for ASB announced. First time (if memory serves me right) that ASNB spending more than RM10 billion alone just for income distribution
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post Dec 18 2014, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Dec 18 2014, 12:42 PM)
the fund size is growing what.
every year set new record.
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True. Imagine if all of it is withdrawn and spent on the local economy. We would have RM10 billion injected to generate businesses and transactions. Given how weak consumer sentiment is, RM10 billion flowing into the local economy is exactly what we need to avert more problems.
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post Dec 22 2014, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(celicaizpower @ Dec 21 2014, 09:10 PM)
alamakkk  shocking.gif  shocking.gif ... tak cover... dem... ok time to move money somewhere else... ini info baru nih utk aku... all the while i thought got cover...

thanks for letting me know  thumbup.gif
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Unless I'm wrong, there's no product that is insured by some party that can even provide half of the returns that ASB can. Your options are limited if you're going to look into products that are insured as TH, ASNB and other UT products fall under the same category.

Risk/reward, it's up to you but I know a bus-load of people who would rather have the opportunity to invest in ASNB fixed priced products and worry less about PIDM.
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post Dec 23 2014, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Dec 23 2014, 11:59 AM)
ASNB declared 6.45% dividend for ASN
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Hhhmm... Based on the last price before suspension, the yield on that would be above ASB (last price around 81 sen I think). Actually if calculated on 02/01/2015, yield on ASN might be more than 8% tongue.gif Given how bad the market has been this this past few months, the fund managers must have cabut out a long time ago brows.gif


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post Dec 24 2014, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Dec 23 2014, 02:08 PM)
Sifuuu review for asg pls. Haha.
6.45 is highest from history tho. Wohoo.
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Alamak me not sifu lar tongue.gif Hehehehehe


QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Dec 23 2014, 05:25 PM)
Quoted by PNB

The ASN 2 portfolio jumped 381% for 2014, ASN 3 surged 441% while ASG rose 178%, whereas fixed price unit trust products grew only between 4% to 9%.
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That would be music to SC's ears. Sorry ladies and gents but unless Najib does another dictator directive (like ASB2 previously), I don't think there'll be any new fixed priced funds or expansion of any of the existing fixed priced funds. That would be my view of things...
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post Dec 29 2014, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Dec 29 2014, 01:13 PM)
Got a reply from ASNB on my query on capital guaranteed ASX.

They use SC's definition of capital guaranteed fund as stated below:

Capital Guaranteed Fund as defined by Securities Commission (SC) :
• Has a maturity period
• Capital is only guaranteed if units held until maturity period
• Before maturity, units are transacted at fluctuating Net Asset Value (NAV).
• Penalty will be imposed if units are redeemed prior to maturity period
• The word 'guarantee' must appear in the fund's name
Based on the above definition, they then say ASX are not capital guaranteed funds. Sorry guys!

Note the 2nd point. Then we are safe on capital guarantee? But ASX do not have maturity period. So, not applicable again.

My takeaway from this is, when it is still a FP fund, withdraw before ASNB is running short of $$$.

Cheerio.
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I think this was discussed in an earlier version of this forum. There's a difference between capital guarantee and fixed priced. Basically, ASNB funds are fixed priced in nature due to the fact that no matter what the actual NAV is, investors are assured that their investments remain at RM1. That means that even during tough times (1998 for example), even when the local stock market tanked and the NAV would probably be less than RM1, ASNB continues to honour investments at the same value regardless if it means it is a loss to them.

Other unit trust products do not have such a feature so if things go bad (like it did in 2008) and your investment value is less than what was invested, it's your loss. ASNB is unique that its funds are like that, I do not know anywhere in this world where you could find something like that other than in Malaysia.

They may not have a "huge" year in terms of dividend pay out as compared to some UTMC but they've always preached consistent and competitive returns. Low risk and medium returns is what most people are happy with.

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post Jan 12 2015, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 10 2015, 08:18 PM)
Internal candidates to head PNB

Sources say Tun Ahmad Sarji Abdul Hamid successor is believed to be PNB’s current president and group chief executive Tan Sri Hamad Kama Piah Che Othman. Hamad Kama Piah has over 30 years experience in the fields of investment, unit trust management and corporate finance. He helmed PNB at the height of the 1997-1998 Asian financial crisis which was a very demanding and challenging task.

It is also speculated that Datuk Idris Kechot (PNB deputy president and group chief operating officer) or Datuk Wan Roshdi Wan Musa (chief risk officer) could later assumed Hamad Kama Piah’s current position should the latter be appointed PNB chairman.
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Wow! This is quite the news. Do you have the link to it? Nowadays I've observed that GLC's hardly promote from within but always take someone from outside. The days of promoting from within are long gone...
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post Jan 12 2015, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 12 2015, 03:35 PM)
Sure la need to take insider people. if not their "secret" strategy in investment would be expose if outsider take over tongue.gif

btw the link
http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...-PNB/?style=biz
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Hahahhaa... Where got strategy so canggih wan. Just keep 30% of returns every year for rainy days than can give out consistent returns lar. May not get you so many stars from the rating companies but at least consistent and above average.

Btw, TQ for the link wink.gif
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post Jan 19 2015, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Jan 17 2015, 01:18 PM)
If a private company is doing that, I have no complaint. How a private company wants to use its money is up to that company.

But PNB and ASNB are not really private companies. To me, this is adding fuel to the racial platform.  mad.gif Sorry for speaking my mind here.

Amount may be small at RM1.6 million, but the mentality behind it needs some serious X ray, MRI, US, etc analysis!  doh.gif

Cheerio.
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Well here's my 2 cents. We'll have to look back as to why PNB/ASNB was setup in the first place. Once one understands that than you would understand how the organisation works and why they continue till this very day to hold a certain "agenda".

PNB/ASNB has been around for more than 30 years (if I'm not mistaken) and I don't think even half of that time were PNB/ASNB funds were available to non-bumi.

Just my 2 cents, just the other side of the coin wink.gif
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post Jan 28 2015, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jan 28 2015, 10:59 AM)
yes. ASB2. good option.

if u can't get ASB2, u still have plenty of other better choices compared to ASG
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Fixed priced and variable priced funds have their own advantage/disadvantage that one should consider. Personally there's no harm in diversifying in some variable priced funds to take a bit more risk, as they say high risk/high reward.

However if you're not willing to take the risks of price fluctuations than I guess ASB2 isn't too bad. We'll know how good it is in March this year wink.gif
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post Feb 9 2015, 09:18 AM

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I guess I'm one of the very few who's very worried about EPF's high dividend distribution. Mainly because EPF's mandate for equity should not exceed 45% of the VOF and MGS are yielding next to nothing. Everyone knows that KLCI had negative returns FY2014

EPF is supposed to be conservative in terms of its investment outlook and when it starts to performing better than equity heavy growth funds, I'm getting scared. How do you get returns that doubles MGS in a year when the local stock market had about -10% returns? I hope that they're not delving into some weird derivatives or options or futures thingy because like me, 99.99999% of Malaysians rely on EPF for retirement.

Then again, maybe it's just me.


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