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 Fixed Deposit Rates in Malaysia V7, Please Read Post# 1 & 2

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post Oct 11 2014, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(turbot @ Oct 10 2014, 04:26 PM)
I read HSBC Premier website today , they offered p.a. 5.88% 2 month Time Deposit,
anyone taking know what is p.a ?
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just look at the T&C b4 even wasting your fuel & parking or even phone call chgs smile.gif
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post Oct 16 2014, 05:12 PM

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just wondering. Has CIMB ever been aggressive with FD promotions? Any chance of them countering mbb's attack in the near future?

with regards the merger, what will happen to the MBSB long dated FD's let's say 12 mths or longer such that by the time they mature, the merger already completed. Will those MBSB FDs enjoy PIDMunder the merged entity?
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post Oct 28 2014, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(leo_kiatez @ Oct 27 2014, 04:49 PM)
Banks should be encouraged to accept IBG as fresh fund more since next year there would be charges for FD placement using cheque... tongue.gif
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wow ... really ka? does that mean they prefer customer to bring cash? appreciate if you can share source of this info sad.gif
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post Oct 28 2014, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(leo_kiatez @ Oct 28 2014, 04:37 PM)
tq ... I thought it was some other add'l charge banks will impose if you brought your money in the form of a cheque tongue.gif More worrying is the RM5 some banks charge for banker's cheque BC if you were to withdraw using BC. Let's say you put 10k for 3 mths, that RM5 will make a diff of 0.2% pa return.

From the BNM press release:
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the fee for Interbank GIRO (IBG) transaction conducted via Internet and mobile banking is capped at 10 sen effective 2 May 2013 compared to about RM2 previously
This 10 sen looks like it applies only if you do the IBG from your phone/PC with internet banking, right? Do any of the banks allow us to uplift & trsfr out our FD with internet banking? Or do we have to at least open a savings acct with internet banking facility?

On this other thread on IBG (courtesy of GenX's idea), diff banks seem to charge diff IBG fees. Are these higher charges applicable for IBG over the counter? haha so far I have not been playing musical chairs - hence not much experience sad.gif
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post Oct 28 2014, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Oct 28 2014, 05:26 PM)
Ah Boom, noticed you have updated post 2 super fast yesterday. Keeping mum for days already. Anything to share on your FD strategy esp. that BNM meeting next week ? hmm.gif
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How soon did the banks react ie revise their rates in prev OPR hikes? I got maturity just before the mtg - so I wonder if I should renew for 3mths or longer. Or perhaps go for one of the step-ups sad.gif
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post Oct 28 2014, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(Sitting Duck @ Oct 28 2014, 05:49 PM)
HLB Junior FD - 4.15% for 24 Months Tenure

I am very disappointed. I put some money into my Children's FD in HLB on the 17th of Oct but was given the old rate of 3.95% for 2 years instead of the new promotion 4.15% for 2 years.

Should I stop the FD that I've just put in. Take it out for a few days and then re-deposit it again with top up of few k?
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i thought the promo image say revised wef 16/10/2014? This image taken from the 1st post
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post Oct 28 2014, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Oct 28 2014, 06:43 PM)
Here is the formula for you to find out worth or not to uplift 3.95% and re-deposit into 4.15%. You sendiri kira.
(4.15 x 730) / (730 + no of days without interest)= x%
Then compare x% with 3.95%.

For 12 mth FD, simply replace 730 with 365.

This formula can also be used to calculate you actual yield if you park your fund day after day in low yield CASA waiting for higher promotional FD rate to announce.
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hehehe IMHO you should factor in fixed transaction costs (including foregone interest) AND the size of the deposit

@sitting duck, I think the branch saw your nickname & treat u as a lulu sitting duck ... here take this pdf from HLB website & go hantam the branch manager kaw-kaw for your 4.15% tongue.gif
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post Oct 28 2014, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Oct 28 2014, 08:23 PM)
Say you go and withdraw your 3.95% Fd and put new FD at 4.15% tomorrow, you forego 12days of interest on your original FD to get the new rate 4.15%. Your new Fd starts from 29.10.14.

if your amount deposited is big, the extra 0.2% over 24 months can be significant.
if your amount is small eg. RM10,000.00,  the extra you get switching from 3.95% to 4.15% is only an additional RM27.00 over the whole 24 months period. Worth the trouble to go withdraw and redeposit?

If deposit RM100k, you get extra RM270, if 1 Million you get extra RM2,700.

So yes, the amount deposited does matter.
The bigger the amount deposited, the more you must go get the higher FD rate.

I would also add the tenure of FD also matters.
The longer the tenure, the more you must go for higher rate.

In the above example if both the 2 Fds are only for 6 months duration, forget about it! The the extra 0.2% cannot even cover your 12 days interest that you sacrificed.

So i wont get excited with any promo offering slightly higher rate but only for short tenure 3 - 6 months.
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@aeiou .. no need terror formula. keep it simple logic & simple primary school math also can oredi wink.gif

ps: also go read earlier posts starting from this one

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post Oct 30 2014, 09:52 AM

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RHB promo
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MBSB promo
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There must have been other FD/CASA promos that were really worth it but in my limited experience hunting fd rates, I remember SCB's (2fd:1casa) 3mth fd 4.5% + 2.9%CASA earlier this year (about jun/july??) which i missed cry.gif And heck, that was before the current battle for deposits!

Damn complicated la these casa promos. But if the CASA:fd ratio is low & the CASA int rate is high, then can consider.

Hope this not considered spam. Let me know if it is @GenX smile.gif

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post Oct 30 2014, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(gchowyh @ Oct 30 2014, 02:03 PM)
Been very busy this whole week, I missed the maturity date for my FD this past Monday! sad.gif

Guess I will just stick with BR for this FD as:
- when I placed the upfront 4% FD at Maybank, I deposited the cheque on Tues 21 Oct
- As Wed was a public holiday, I could only collect my cert on Friday 24 Oct as the cheque was on a 2 day float
- After that Maybank called me to ask where the funds came from & even updated my personal details & job.
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was at BR today. they told me for deposits 1-6 mths, they will pay interest upfront into savings account. does not need to be fresh funds... renewal also can. Then again their rates not so attractive now for those periods.

Also went to UOB where I checked with them what happens if maturity falls on a non-working day ... same like BR, system automatically moves it to the next working day rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

Ramjade ... yes last day tomoro but imho their rates not so good. Walked into HLB today to use their toilet at the private banking floor & then busy body talk to their staff there ... haiiihhhhh rich fellas get to use toilet in HLB, every other bank I went gotta go to coffeshop next door tongue.gif

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post Oct 31 2014, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(rjb123 @ Oct 31 2014, 01:48 PM)
Did second 4% Maybank upfront FD today - was meant to do it the other day but they had to wait since Wednesday for bankers cheque from CIMB to clear.

Now only if Citi didn't take a month to uplift my other FD which was to secure a card I could have done that one too  cry.gif
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bro thx for headsup... me not so lucky. can share which branch if in kl? or can pm me if u prefer. thx
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post Oct 31 2014, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(giko @ Oct 31 2014, 11:03 PM)
UP!
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we hope lah wish.gif everybody expect a hike before gst 1/4/2015 ... 2 more mtgs Jan & Mar 2015. Can see the history of OPR here

thanks @rjb123
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post Nov 1 2014, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(ragk @ Nov 1 2014, 07:08 PM)
mean they are paying interest twice if i put 12 months? Sorry i din't put any FD b4, normally FD only pay u once per year right?
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I remember i read the T&C - says that you can uplift at end of 6 mths with 3.83% interest calculated. But if you choose to continue to 12 mths, the second 6 mths will earn you 4.28%. Both periods' interest earned will be paid to you at end of 12 mths. And also there will not be interest on the 1st 6mth's 3.83% interest iirc.

EDIT ... I stand corrected... the 1st 6mth's 3.83% interest will also earn interest in the 2nd 6mths at 4.28%

see para 4.1 of T&C

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post Nov 4 2014, 05:50 PM

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mtg this thursday same day ambank 5mth promo ends. Next 2 mtgs in jan & mar 2015, cny 19feb. Will they raise in jan b4 cny? imho won't be popular to do that. So either this week or in march. But gst starts 1 april. If march it'll also be unpopular i think.

haihhhh got maturity on thursday leh hmm.gif
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post Nov 6 2014, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Nov 6 2014, 08:30 PM)
Received SMS from RHB manager. New FD promo until Dec 5. 6 mths 4%. 9 mths 4.15%. Min 50k. Note separate FD promo of 6 mths and 9 mths, not step up like previously. Rather good rate.  rclxms.gif Both promo very good except min 50k required.  smile.gif
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wow! darn good rates, the best so far! sure it's not for their priority customers only? too late & too bad for me cry.gif

ooops 50K??? mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

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post Nov 7 2014, 08:39 AM

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hmmmm just struck me that rhb is one of the 3 targets in that operasi attack. is their sudden promo a counter-attack ala the empire strikes back? will the big C also have a juicy promo in the works? brows.gif
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post Nov 7 2014, 10:25 AM

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brothers n sisters, yes it's frustrating the way cost of living is going up & nobody is spared. BUT we should stay focus here; I'm sure there are other threads eg this one where we can vent.

forgot to thank bbgoat for the rhb promo headsup notworthy.gif rclxms.gif thumbup.gif even though i dun qualify for the promo, it is important info. my guess is that we will see 4+ very soon across the board. if u have maturities b4 5th dec, i think it's a good idea to park in the 9mth 4.15% deal. or even the 6mth 4% if you are more bullish about rates going up.

2 things to note about rhb - 1. they don't adjust maturities to next working day 2. they charge 5.15 for banker cheq on withdrawal unless you are priority customer (200K)

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post Nov 7 2014, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(dEviLs @ Nov 7 2014, 10:27 AM)
great info shared thumbup.gif
was really looking at good 9m offer after placing 3m, 6m and 12m lately biggrin.gif
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wahhhh with a 9m in place you will have achieved the perfect maturity profile & 1 more step to maximising returns (based on sifu genX's lesson) rclxms.gif

2 things to note about rhb - 1. they don't adjust maturities to next working day 2. they charge 5.15 for banker cheq on withdrawal unless you are priority customer (200K, 15sen)

ps: did u go for the auto-callables?
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post Nov 7 2014, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(dEviLs @ Nov 7 2014, 11:02 AM)
btw hows ur experience with similar investment ? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Nov 7 2014, 11:16 AM)
You mean Callable Klibor ? This is totally diff from normal FD.
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actually me no experience with it. one day a bit back was at bank & this uncle started chatting , told me about diversifying, how he got 7% pa. Got me curious & he led me to his H private banking mgr. hahaha gave me coffee & started talking about these auto-callable foreign currency equity index linked structured deposit - damn, that's a freaking mouthful for my simple mind la tongue.gif Anyway, i ask what is auto-callable. Was told that if the idx went up beyond a certain threshold, the bank had the right to end your structured deposit ie give you your money back lah. So I asked, do we get to earn anything if the idx go up? Well, yes & no. Only little bit lah because beyond that threshold, they will call in your structured deposit. Long story short, you don't get to participate in the idx's upside & your deposit also finito like premature ejac before maturity. So I thot why so lousy one??? summore got foreign exchange risk. hahaha too complicated for me lah

how about you? what they try to sell u?

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post Nov 7 2014, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Nov 7 2014, 10:58 AM)
Bro, fantastic rates indeed. Actually too good to be true. I would appreciate if you could triple confirm with the RHB person that SMS you that there is no CASA requirement.

Updated above to Post#1 and also added BR new rates.
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hehehe told my fren about the promo. straightaway he went & got it done, no casa bs. straight fresh fund fd rclxm9.gif now i sitting with him at nasi kandar place waiting out the rain - he buy me lunch biggrin.gif

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