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post Sep 5 2014, 11:02 PM, updated 12y ago

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I noticed no one talked about legendary gem. Which one is the best? Or all of them are jokes?
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post Sep 6 2014, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(ptptn_god @ Sep 5 2014, 11:02 PM)
I noticed no one talked about legendary gem. Which one is the best? Or all of them are jokes?
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Different class uses different leg gems. For DH and WD, definitely Enforcer.
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post Sep 6 2014, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Sep 6 2014, 01:05 AM)
Different class uses different leg gems. For DH and WD, definitely Enforcer.
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Not really. I dont play sentries, cos I know its gonna get nerf later.

Universal gems for ranged class are

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/bane-of-the-trapped ->simple like cull of the weak

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/zeis-stone-of-vengeance ->also simple like Take Aim

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/gem-of-efficacious-toxin ->good sustain dps (doesnt help with clear speed though), flat 10% dps increase like a mini marked for death


My strafe build currently using Taeguk, Bane of the trapped and wreath of lightning.

Dont be fooled by the lightning and holy proc gems (or any other proc gems for that matter)
You can utilize them, they are powerful. If you can proc them, you can use them.
You dont have to have that specific +elemental damage to utilize them.If you can, its even better but they are great even on its own.

After sacrificing my CHD on my amulet for wreath of lightning, my clear speed greatly improved, and Im a cold strafe. thumbup.gif

At first was skeptical, but now found out definitely worth it.
In a perfect world, everyone wants CHC + CHD + Elemental dmg/Main stats +socket on their amulet, but we get by with what we get.
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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ Sep 6 2014, 01:51 AM)
Not really. I dont play sentries, cos I know its gonna get nerf later.

Universal gems for ranged class are

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/bane-of-the-trapped ->simple like cull of the weak

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/zeis-stone-of-vengeance ->also simple like Take Aim

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/gem-of-efficacious-toxin ->good sustain dps (doesnt help with clear speed though), flat 10% dps increase like a mini marked for death
My strafe build currently using Taeguk, Bane of the trapped and wreath of lightning.

Dont be fooled by the lightning and holy proc gems (or any other proc gems for that matter)
You can utilize them, they are powerful. If you can proc them, you can use them.
You dont have to have that specific +elemental damage to utilize them.If you can, its even better but they are great even on its own.

After sacrificing my CHD on my amulet for wreath of lightning, my clear speed greatly improved, and Im a cold strafe.  thumbup.gif

At first was skeptical, but now found out definitely worth it.
In a perfect world, everyone wants CHC + CHD + Elemental dmg/Main stats +socket on their amulet, but we get by with what we get.
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post Sep 6 2014, 10:03 AM

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Monk would be either Mirinae, Gogok, Taegok
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post Sep 6 2014, 10:41 AM

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if u are very poor Boon of the Hoarder is ur best friend
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post Sep 6 2014, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Sep 6 2014, 10:03 AM)
Monk would be either Mirinae, Gogok, Taegok
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yea those 3 is like the staple gem for monks

barb on other hand I don't have a fix idea
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post Sep 6 2014, 11:24 AM

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Can followers use the gem?
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QUOTE(fabvader @ Sep 6 2014, 11:24 AM)
Can followers use the gem?
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LGems only work when equipped on players. Do not function when equipped on followers. - See more at: http://www.diablowiki.net/Legendary_Gems#s...h.3Pus4a3N.dpuf
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post Sep 6 2014, 09:18 PM

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crusader favourite choice: gogok, trap, power
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post Sep 8 2014, 10:22 AM

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My Wizard = Gogok, simplicity strength and bane of the trapped
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post Sep 8 2014, 10:43 PM

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Someone was complaining how underpowered other gems are mathematically speaking.
Among his highlights also are how powerful the poison gem and the bleed gem are, and bane of the powerful being weak.

I always know that bane of the powerful is not that great, but I could be wrong if the bonus is another modifier instead of being lumped together with +dmg to elite on normal gears.
For example, if you have 30% soj + 15% from gem, the calculation could be 1 x 1.3 x 1.15 =1.495 instead of flat 45% damage increase to elite.

Im pretty sure the bane of the trapped is separate modifier than cull the weak, so its multiplicative.

My take on the gems are get two damage modifier gems and one elemental gem even if you dont have specific +elemental damage (such as fire or cold)
At least thats how I think the devs designed the gem designation (fire and cold gem might be in the making still)
Elemental gems are:

Bleed, poison, lightning, holy

Poison is especially powerful due to it also have innate damage multiplier, but it is offset by how the damage is over time in nature.
Bleed is somewhat the same, but it is limited to break points and more situational.


Im gonna level up my poison gem and replace my bane of the trapped and see how it goes with 2 elemental gem + 1 modifier gem (im using taeguk, trapped and lightning currently).
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For wiz, wat gem?
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post Sep 9 2014, 08:57 AM

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the dont die easily gem
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QUOTE(NeoGene @ Sep 6 2014, 10:41 AM)
if u are very poor Boon of the Hoarder is ur best friend
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I'm using this when doing normal rifts on T3 LOL!
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post Sep 9 2014, 08:34 PM

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Guys, how do you feel fail 3 times upgrading the gems at 90% ?
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post Sep 9 2014, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(Dharcness @ Sep 9 2014, 08:34 PM)
Guys, how do you feel fail 3 times upgrading the gems at 90% ?
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LOL I will go buy a toto. because the probability is 0.1x0.1x0.1=0.001 . man u hit the first price of today toto4d biggrin.gif
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post Sep 9 2014, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(Dharcness @ Sep 9 2014, 08:34 PM)
Guys, how do you feel fail 3 times upgrading the gems at 90% ?
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Take comfort in the fact that it's only 10 mins of your life wasted! Still got many many more minutes to burn ahead
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post Sep 9 2014, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(Dharcness @ Sep 9 2014, 08:34 PM)
Guys, how do you feel fail 3 times upgrading the gems at 90% ?
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welcome to diablo 3, where RNGesus is the all-power being of the world.
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post Sep 9 2014, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(Dharcness @ Sep 9 2014, 08:34 PM)
Guys, how do you feel fail 3 times upgrading the gems at 90% ?
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It is just not your day.

90% is still a very high chance. No problem.
You'll find it hard when you only have 3% success rate.
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post Sep 9 2014, 11:29 PM

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Grif till lvl40 with 4 DH ..
upgrade gem at 3% success rate...

win liaw lo...haih

I wonder what black magic they use can grif till lvl42 or 43 ...lvl 40 also half dead de.
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post Sep 9 2014, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Sep 9 2014, 11:29 PM)
Grif till lvl40 with 4 DH ..
upgrade gem at 3% success rate...

win liaw lo...haih

I wonder what black magic they use can grif till lvl42 or 43 ...lvl 40 also half dead de.
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wow what's your gem level? Sounds super hard to achieve lvl 25!
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QUOTE(Vorador @ Sep 9 2014, 11:40 PM)
wow what's your gem level? Sounds super hard to achieve lvl 25!
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reaching 25 is easy.
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post Sep 9 2014, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(kwwk87 @ Sep 9 2014, 11:42 PM)
reaching 25 is easy.
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oh then that's good.
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post Sep 10 2014, 12:38 PM

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Upgrade Odds
Upgrade odds are determined entirely by the difference in level between the Greater Rift in which Urshi appears, and the rank of the greater gem.[1] If the level of the Greater Rift is higher than that of the gem, the odds of the gem gaining a rank are increased. If the level of the Greater Rift is lower than the gem, the odds decrease rapidly.
GRift level vs. Gem Level +10 +9 +8 +7 +6 +5 +4 +3 +2 +1 0 -1 -2 -3 -4 -5 -6 -7
LGem Upgrade Chance 100% 90% 80% 70% 60% 60% 60% 60% 60% 60% 60% 30% 15% 8% 4% 2% 1% 0%

Examples:
GRift level 17, LGem level 5 = +12 = 100% chance of successful upgrade.
GRift level 22, LGem level 14 = +8 = 80% chance of successful upgrade.
Grift level 22, LGem level 24 = -2 = 15% chance of successful upgrade.
- See more at: http://www.diablowiki.net/Legendary_Gems#sthash.o2HQ3NeW.dpuf



http://www.diablowiki.net/Legendary_Gems
so i guess your gem level is around the GR level that u can do.

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post Sep 11 2014, 06:12 PM

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MeatHeadMikhail confirmed that pet gem stacks with +elemental (additive, not multiplicative), so if you already have a high +ele dmg (60% or higher), the dps gain is less significant.

Bane of the powerful elite damage stacks with sheet elite damage too.


General consensus is bane of the trapped scales the best, as it is a whole new modifier.
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post Sep 11 2014, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Sep 9 2014, 11:29 PM)
Grif till lvl40 with 4 DH ..
upgrade gem at 3% success rate...

win liaw lo...haih

I wonder what black magic they use can grif till lvl42 or 43 ...lvl 40 also half dead de.
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saw DH at Grift 47

Jackie Chan yo!
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post Sep 15 2014, 06:17 PM

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guys does boon of the hoader do really exist coz I can't find any info on the official site in the gem section , if it really exist how to obtain it ?
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QUOTE(huoshenfeng124 @ Sep 15 2014, 06:17 PM)
guys does boon of the hoader do really exist coz I can't find any info on the official site in the gem section , if it really exist how to obtain it ?
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Only drops off of Greed in the Goblin Realm.
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post Sep 15 2014, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ Sep 11 2014, 06:12 PM)
MeatHeadMikhail confirmed that pet gem stacks with +elemental (additive, not multiplicative), so if you already have a high +ele dmg (60% or higher), the dps gain is less significant.

Bane of the powerful elite damage stacks with sheet elite damage too.
General consensus is bane of the trapped scales the best, as it is a whole new modifier.
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rclxub.gif rclxub.gif err ... can explain in plain simple English? so pet gem need wat?
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post Sep 15 2014, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Sep 15 2014, 06:54 PM)
rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  err ... can explain in plain simple English? so pet gem need wat?
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Means that if you have high elemental dmg, efficiency of the pet gem is lower.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFZMOQsX8VM

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/14058607023?page=1

^Pet gem is the same class as elemental damage.


You would want different types of modifier, and not stacking on one aspect too much to boost your effective dps.

This post has been edited by nightshade_nova: Sep 15 2014, 07:38 PM
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post Sep 15 2014, 07:39 PM

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My gems are at 39, 39 and 41... Damn susah wei

 

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