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Jasoncat
post Sep 12 2014, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Sep 12 2014, 11:17 PM)
I think not bought enuf. Stil looking. Mayb wan to grab the last unit b4 bbw book.
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post Sep 12 2014, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 12 2014, 11:20 PM)
yup please show us which part of loan agreement is compulsory, you are permitted to ask TKJ for assistance...
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Did I say the loan agreement states it's compulsory? doh.gif you have eyesight problem? shakehead.gif
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post Sep 12 2014, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 12 2014, 11:22 PM)
u got salah or not? yesterday you are still on " if price is high , why not considering to sell" metality wor.. flippers game minimum exposure, paying least, profit the max...
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You probably don't understand what's risk management... do more reading, it helps.
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post Sep 12 2014, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 12 2014, 11:30 PM)
then what makes you compulsory to pay it? charity? clarify with TKJ or sampks at least he copy and paste other ppl advice...

so how? flip or onstay? or both?
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Bank normally will need you to sign 2 sets of docs - lettee of offer with the specific approval terms e.g. MRTA requirement, and another set is the loan facility agreement with the detailedterms and conditions. The facility agreement normal will not spell out again the specific terms.

The bank can make it compulsory for the MRTA if you want to take their loan - reason could be extra income or / and to protect bank interest in the event you go holland.

Faham or not?
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post Sep 12 2014, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Sep 12 2014, 11:42 PM)
Officially and I note officially, BNM has said that MRTA is optional. However Banks can use it's discretion in giving better interest rates for customers who take  MRTA as the risk to the Bank has been lowered.

Now unofficially, banks have actively promote MRTA, and some SA have even said that the Loan will only be approved if customers take MRTA.

But I doubt that anyone is stupid enough to put in writing. Definitely, the officer or manager could be fired for putting such thing in black & white.

MRTA useful for own stay or perhaps long term investment. Short to mid term, of less than 10 yrs, not necessary.
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I doubt whether BNM has issued any circular saying that MRTA is optional. Anyway, if the bank wants to impose such condition, it has the right. Of course the customer has the right to reject the offer.
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post Sep 12 2014, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(CK15 @ Sep 12 2014, 11:48 PM)
No more compulsory... it is optional.. but they offer better rate!
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The bank has the rights to impose it - take it or leave it - as simple as that.
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post Sep 12 2014, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 12 2014, 11:49 PM)
if the dont specify it how the hell to enforce it? still wanna argue? yup I will use your versions SEH buyers are famous ignorant and simply tembak only.. remember?

what comes around goes around champ...
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The letter of offer could served as the schedule to the agreement, like SPA is a standard doc with details terms but the house particular is under the schedule.

Faham?! I should charge you for free tuition.
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post Sep 12 2014, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 12 2014, 11:54 PM)
wow ignorant level... and this is the one who signs loans before, take loans before.. take it or leave it...

i dun simply troll you like you did to me.. see the difference? talking with no facts and baseless...
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post Sep 12 2014, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Sep 12 2014, 11:54 PM)
I dare say if anyone has in black and white, that they  were asked to take MRTA, else the Housing Loan will be rejected, please PM me.

I will assist in ensuring that your complaint reaches the right person at Bank Negara.
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I have never seen any letter of offer is spelt out in such a way - accept the terms or else I reject your loan application. The terms is written there, if you sign on the dotted line means you accept it. If you don't sign on it then no offer.
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post Sep 13 2014, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Sep 12 2014, 11:58 PM)
Yes, it's true. Bank has right not to approve your loan. But no state in black and white is a different thing.

Imagine, just for argument sake, bank Kristian gives rejection letter to Ahmad saying his loan was rejected cos he was Muslim.

What would happen to Bank Kristian.
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Then the bank Kristian is asking for trouble laugh.gif
If the bank want to put a condition it hasoto be in black and white form.
The bank may due to risk mitigation reason to ask for the MRTA other than the additional income.

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post Sep 13 2014, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 13 2014, 12:08 AM)
you still dont understand.. the question by Jason the champ is MRTA is compulsory... understand ah?

bro cfa, please direct samkps to bank negara...

uncle, so without MRTA can take loan or not? still got loans maa...
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BBW do you have any eyesight problems or my england is too lowya for you to understand?
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post Sep 13 2014, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Sep 13 2014, 12:07 AM)
Offer Letters are also standardised these days, to say.

If financing includes MRTA, customers must pay for any excess or loading imposed by the Insurance company.

So the key is why did the customer buy MRTA:

a) cos he kiasu / want to ensure his family is covered if he die

b) he was told he can get better interest rate by the SA

c) he was told Loan will only be approved if he take MRTA.

The key is to obtain proof of © above. If have, I am quite sure that BNM will take action.
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If the bank has no right to impose condition then better ask BNM to run the biz.
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post Sep 13 2014, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 13 2014, 12:17 AM)
dun try to change topic, this is what that ahs been debating.. Jason say need this to get loans.. understand?

whole world is looking his foolishness... and yet still not backing down

who is the troll now??
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post Sep 13 2014, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(samkps @ Sep 13 2014, 12:19 AM)
That's why I am eager to know as well, why bank can offer different rate for a same project with different loan amount, but bank cannot offer different rate for a loan that is purchased together with the MRTA?

Loan never say MRTA is compulsory, just they give you different offer based on different loan amount and any additional features you commit mah, is that violating rule?
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With MRTA, the bank have extra income to compensate for the lower loan pricing.

MRTA is not compulsory but the bank may impose it for reason other than income enhancement. Says if the bank think that I'm in a "higher risk" category due to age, occupation etc, then they may want to have the MRTA as additional protection. Of course if it is mainly for income enhancement, they may agree to waive it but with higher loan pricing.
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post Sep 13 2014, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(samkps @ Sep 13 2014, 01:00 AM)
Because he only know twisted/distorted biased perception and baseless accusation. He doesn't know how to handle facts, he also dunno how to handle something that he claimed mistakenly, the only thing he will do is skip you and continue talking something else that no related and other baseless accusation again.  doh.gif  doh.gif
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post Sep 13 2014, 01:29 AM

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Debating and explaining to BBW really wasted a lot of hou shui...
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post Sep 13 2014, 01:32 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 13 2014, 01:28 AM)
asnser this long time ago no need we aware precious time to pull you back mr champion..
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post Sep 13 2014, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Sep 13 2014, 01:30 AM)
You booking or not? Worry here worry there. Now worry mrta? Worry until whn? doh.gif
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post Sep 13 2014, 10:13 AM

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BBW, based on BNM, as far as I know, no circular about MRTA, it means it's the bank's right. If a bank wants to impose MRTA in loan approval condition (as risk mitigation) and no other option is given to you, is that consider compulsory for you since it gives you no choice? If for another borrower the bank is willing to waive the MRTA but with higher loan pricing, that gives you an option. My stand from the very beginning is clear and never change.

Now understand? Don't twist here and there! What a spin doctor!
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post Sep 13 2014, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 13 2014, 10:24 AM)
champion there are many eyes seeing what you are doing... still want second round?
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SKL stop losing your mind and living in your own world... It's weekend, cheer up, go out have some fresh air and broaden your view scope... haha, why don't you go quickly book a unit since you have not bought any unit, have you?

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