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post Sep 11 2014, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 11 2014, 06:50 PM)
I didnt made this up... it is based on developers sales targets, and the sub sales vacant units? don't they?

could it be because BTC and following (iceman quote) that you flip for 200k? I support built & sell...

is there any other reason for developers launches to fully bought within such short period vs subsales?
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Someone thought you r doing master in BTS? Make sure you dont take those holland info fr half past six in ur thesis. biggrin.gif

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post Sep 11 2014, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(samkps @ Sep 11 2014, 04:08 PM)
10:90 system is a way to protect the purchaser and not involved in the abandon project, not used to curb property flipping woh. As a matter of fact, for BTS system, developer is the "majority flipper".

This model no problem, but signing SPA 3 months before completion is very awkward. Why not just conduct the SPA signing after 100% completion? Treat it just like a subsale.

Problem that may occur: In the SPA, don't think the delivery period is 3 months, it should be standard 24/36 months. So even though developer say expected is 3 months, they can take till 6 months for VP instead, due to some "unforeseeing circumstances", LAD can't protect them as the 24 months / 36 months from the date of SPA (so call the 3 months) and not the construction date. Purchaser suffer and not protected.
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No such 10:90 or BTS signing SPA 3 months b4 100% completion. No sochai developer do tht. That be7a really half past six. Ask him which project cannot tell coz no such 10:90 or BTS project. Mayb he worry if he tell the project name, you will sapu all the unit. doh.gif

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post Sep 11 2014, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(tikaram @ Sep 11 2014, 04:08 PM)
You are wrong again.

Many unbooked completed units = BTS.  rclxm9.gif
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If robertzai 2nd phase BTS. Good or bad news? biggrin.gif
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post Sep 11 2014, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 11 2014, 06:48 PM)
i am trying to use the analogy that BTS like goodview (pleae disagree) i.e if developers cannot finish selling BTS units, how the buyers is going to flip?

get it? IN OUG parklane yes it is not a BTS... but now already completed and VP.. anyting make the not to be able to sell at 500k?

i m using the principle of the aftermath of flippers who bought 300k and now cant flip higher coz developers ares till holding units and only selling 420k with freebies..

likewise here... BTS are itself priced so high after factoring everything, and in such a short period to sell before VP, if developers cannot finish selling, you think the flippers will be able to flip? do you see what I am trying to tell you or not?

can TKJ retract that you are more professional than us? it is so wrong to even digest your statement with trolling comments and different wavelength ... i meant this....
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Developer sell 420k. I bought 300k flip 410k. Ok boh? Talking to u makes me feel like a genius. biggrin.gif

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post Sep 11 2014, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(Jliew168 @ Sep 11 2014, 09:25 PM)
So back to this project what is the financial schemes and what kind of BTS they offering ?

BBW after u defend n promote so much about this project do u bought any?

Tell us what type of BTS concept they offering if u don mind
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I conclude for you. Its 10:90. Book now. Apply loan now. Sign SPA within 2weeks if not wrong and pay 10%. Balance 90% upon CCC ie completion. This dont fall under BTS.

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post Sep 11 2014, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(Jliew168 @ Sep 11 2014, 09:45 PM)
Tq tq, this mean not those claim can sign SPA 3 months before completion la. This make more sense for me.
If can sign 3 months before completion I wanna whack 10 units  brows.gif
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Here we all talking bout Goodview, tht half past 6 be7a talk bout his experience can sign SPA 3months b4 CCC. Thn ask him what project is refering, top secret, kenot tell. If he tell, sure i can kantoi him. brows.gif
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 11 2014, 09:49 PM)
yup the genius forget about the free legal fees, freebies, and etc..

genius also forgot that there are also 3-4k units rushing the same price..

maybe sell at 380k from 300k.. pay a bit of RPGT, pay a bit of 2% lock in period penalty, pay a bit loan serviced, some maintenance, and etc.. that is about it..

after that there you go your nett profit..

after all, genius still miss one thing, provided his unit is the units picked for sale... if not waiting, service more loans and maintenance, quit rents and etc..

genuis lehh
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doh.gif icon_question.gif jiu ming! cry.gif

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post Sep 11 2014, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 11 2014, 09:51 PM)
u can whack 10 units or not first... stamp duty also bungkus you ..

you really think developers sked you let them burn ur deposits? and cannot sell? they BTS and already fork out 70 to 80% one shot.. 20% only left... forfeited your 10% consider lost 10% give it as discounts and sell all off..
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U understd or not wat jliew try to say? Omg! U r lost. Better stop debate thn kena left right center. U jz dont hav the knowledge of wat u try to say. Too much own theory which jz kenot pakai. The more u debate, the more kantoi u r. doh.gif
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post Sep 12 2014, 04:27 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 11 2014, 10:52 PM)
cloud , what do don't understand? it is you that we don't understand, have you notice, your comments are merely to fail any point that been pointed out? look and trace the time where we go, from bubble to here..

what is your intention? trolling unstoppable? why man? look at other threads... all of them are self praising threads with zero disadvantage about their projects.. all good vibe about the project sold.. dun believe, try drop in Aemenyih SEH or EM projects.. it seems those project are the best in the world..

Jliew had clearly made his stand on outskirt projects...they bear the higest risk of vacant for few years thus distinguishing his midfields 2 even high rise vs their landed..

the semenyih jokers on the other hand is of the view of, since Jliew is selling high rise with 1200 sq to flipp to 650k or more.. I m flipping a DSL confirmed by samkps SA to be at least 680k... of course i buy landed.. Jliew of course i buy high rise, my location is more prime.. well that is what keep investment and dream open..

for bro samkps, your SA is selling 680k, factor in legal fees, stamp duties, loan legal fees, and stamp duty, administrative fees in loan processing and etc... it could easily hit another 30k.. with discounts of 40% on legal fees.. did one and quoted to clients..

that makes the standing of a standard flipped DSL price in SEH to be less than maybe 10k with goodview project..

bearing in mind,

a)goodview will be completed a head of SEH;
b) larger built up size of SEH 20x 65 vs goodview 22 x75
c) good view red bricks made vs plain white cheap bricks
d) both are gated & guarded
e) good views are located ahead and nearer to KL compared to SEH projects
f) entry price starts from 728 k signifies the tenants or even potential tenants could be from middle class and above compared to SEH 407 k launch with lots of freebies and DIBS intact
g) new area (good view) vs developing areas
h) possibility of good view to be Chinese majority areas vs SEH which are currently not..however good view could end up like jade hills vacant but expensive
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If buy for own stay, can afford and feel good, juz buy la. Why you worry so much others ppl perception of this project? You lack of confidence. You worry too much coz ur 1st property. Though for own stay, still consider an investment. Your 1st big investment. You worry on its capital appreciation. You worry bubble coz u hav DDD mindset. You also worry on timing shld you buy now. You worry too much. But 4sure its safer to invest in landed thn high rise at this moment of time. You need others here to convince you this is a good buy. You are stil 15 16. And not firm up yet. Be brave. At any point of time in investment, whthr in good or bad time, ther is risks involved but you hav to make sure its a calculated risks.

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QUOTE(samkps @ Sep 12 2014, 09:12 AM)
With 728k, you can get a full red brick semid cluster with fully gng and much bigger land size in SEH already, how about that?  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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Full red brick? Sure boh? Later kantoi again.
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Bad news for property market:



http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...Property-cools/

PETALING JAYA: Property developers have come out with some hard facts that suggest that the sector is cooling off.

According to the first half 2014 Property Industry Survey by the Real Estate and Housing Developers’ Association Malaysia (Rehda), properties in the affordable housing price range below RM1mil have been facing a tough sell largely because of homebuyers’ difficulty in getting financing and a glut of unreleased bumiputra lots.

Also, some 31% of properties in the RM500,001 to RM1mil range were still left unsold after completion in the past three years. These were largely in hot property markets like Selangor and Johor.

Properties in the price range of RM250,000 to RM500,000 also faced the same dilemma, with 34% of the completed units unsold. These were located mainly in Perak and Pahang.

Close to 90% of the respondents experienced a slowdown in property sales due to cooling measures announced in Budget 2014 and over 80% of the respondents of the survey held a “neutral” to “pessimistic” outlook for the first half of 2015.

Rehda president Datuk Seri Fateh Iskandar Mohamed Mansor said demand for property was intact but with the Government’s cooling measures introduced a year ago, developers were finding it difficult to successfully sell in the affordable housing segment.

“A property is a person’s biggest wealth creation asset, yet they can’t seem to own one,” he noted. He suggested that the Government reinstated the developers’ interest bearing scheme for first-time house buyers to allow the working class to own a roof over their head.

The survey found that while 84% of developers were able to get bridging financing for their projects, 53% of their buyers faced challenges getting financing to buy the properties. Among the loan rejections from financial institutions, the highest rate was among home buyers in the RM200,001 to RM500,000 property range.

“We can build but it is a different story for those with the capacity to buy the homes,” he said, adding that the 70% loan-to-value ratio was beyond the capability of many home buyers too.

Hence, Fateh Iskandar appealed to the banks to revisit the guidelines for responsible lending to property buyers.

He further pointed out that for the first time in the recent history of the property sector, less than 50% of units launched were sold in a half-year period.

Of the total 10,189 units launched in the first half of this year, only 49% were taken up. Of that figure, 41% of the launches were in the RM200,001 to RM500,000 price range, mainly located in Johor and Pahang, while 31% were in the range of RM500,001 to RM1mil. This trend was similar to the the second half 2013 period.

At the same time, property developers have had to struggle with the lack of demand for bumiputra lots in locations where bumiputras do not traditionally settle in.

Fateh Iskandar said the authorities’ call to raise the bumiputra quota in property developments up to 70% would only further squeeze developers who would not be able to sell the lots despite their best efforts in marketing the projects to the targeted buyers.

“Demographics and locality can’t be pushed. If you were to ask a non-bumiputra to buy a property in Kampung Datuk Keramat or a bumiputra to buy a house in Jinjang, for example, it’s going to be difficult,” he said. “Yet these quotas are still being put in place everywhere.”

Fateh said developers were supportive of the original quota of 30% bumiputra lots but felt a higher quota would not serve certain locations.

Rehda has suggested for the automatic release of the unsold bumiputra lots in tranches – 10% release every six months from the launch – but this notion has not been taken up by the federal nor state authorities.


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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Sep 12 2014, 10:20 AM)
one thing need to correct, both are gated and guarded...sorry lo, good view heights is not gated and guarded

it's just guarded only
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Yes, you are right. And the red bricks thingy may not be true 100%.
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QUOTE(tikaram @ Sep 12 2014, 03:31 PM)
Aiyor...

some not even investor club la. just property agent that focus too much in semenyih.

now commission so bad due to property drop too much. So need to hard sale semenyih ma. keep promote to get water fish.

especially itu SKL sampokai-s
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Argue until cow come home liao. We dont hiew them. Come we yumcha. I order you ur fav banana split? biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 12 2014, 02:12 PM)
perhaps 90% are flippers too... still within a year before vp... no need to speculate.. i will be extra active the few last months of vp in SEH & EM threds...

as for now, pool of buyers have bought goodview instead of the flipped SEH & EM... can sell before vp..
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Ah bear bear, you really has a classic strategy in investment. I reali kow tow. Have u book and start loan application? Any thig preventing u to make booking since u like this property so much? What r u waiting? Or b4 u invest in anythg, u need to win a debate 1st? My advise to u, jz proceed booking and loan application. Make up ur mind. Later ur sam sui unit taken, how?
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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Sep 12 2014, 08:19 PM)
He just dont have the guts to buy it lar. If he buys, he ll become bbb n not ddd. Price not yet drop to 50%, if buy now, next time meet his ddd friend, muka mau taruh mana???
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Who got extra balls? Pinjam him. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(zuiko407 @ Sep 12 2014, 09:16 PM)
😂😂😂😭😭😭
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U got any extra balls or not?
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post Sep 12 2014, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Sep 12 2014, 10:06 PM)
Where's bbw ah?????
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No balls.
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Bear bear, hav u done u risk calc? For 1st property, if u can get 90% loan based on joint income with ur gf, thn dont worry too much. Ur income alone mayb difficult, thn u worry. Or ur gf yet to agree to buy. Need to wait for her to say yes? Or worry the market softening? Or worry market down? Worry blr goes up? Worry making wrong decision?
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Sep 12 2014, 10:41 PM)
Only day 1 you already so gen cheong? Lol. No worries lar.
btw, how many banks you approached?
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Nowaday not easy to get loan. Recently,I jz got my loan with pbank. Applied with diff bank. Need to submit many docs to substantiate ur income. 3 bank approved my loan. Compare to last time, bank now very kan cheong and strict.
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Sep 12 2014, 10:59 PM)
Yes banks are more cautious now and also selective.  You have 3 banks loan approvals it either shows that you have not bought enough or you are very well loaded or both biggrin.gif
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I think not bought enuf. Stil looking. Mayb wan to grab the last unit b4 bbw book.

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