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post Nov 21 2014, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(ZeratoS @ Nov 21 2014, 12:29 PM)
I was considering Enforcer/Powerful + Toxin + Trapped w/ Polar Station since its not dependent on positioning.

btw, new upcoming changes to the set bonus:
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2 Piece Bonus
Companion calls all companions to your side.
4 Piece Bonus
Sentries cast your Hatred spender when you do.
6 Piece Bonus
Your generators, Elemental Arrow, Chakram, Impale, Multishot, and Cluster Arrow deal 100% increased damage for every active Sentry.


http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/15269779057?page=5#90

Which is f***ing insane lol. Looks like Kridershot + Frost Arrow/CA:Mael is the way to go.
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yes lor, Kev pointed out that the (6) means the damage bonus only apply to your toon, not sentries... sad.gif
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post Nov 21 2014, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(ZeratoS @ Nov 21 2014, 12:36 PM)
Ah, damn.
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BTW I still stick to rucksack and tried to use evasive fire+nightstalker to generate hatred... so far so good. Looks like another build, which using the chakram one don't even need primary attack? hmm.gif
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post Nov 22 2014, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ Nov 22 2014, 12:14 AM)
yeah...probably will not be up until morning US time.

For clarification, the 3rd iteration of m6 is slightly powerful than current m6, but around 70% weaker than the 2nd iteration from what Ive read.

People shouldnt cry so much, its a nerf to an experimental stage anyway.
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But if the end result is being same dmg output with current M6, then it's a big no-no.

Reason: DH are easiest to get killed, but now we're forced to face mobs up front yet can't do more damage than current M6 in order to compensate.

Let's hope the 3rd version will be overwrite soon.
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post Nov 25 2014, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ Nov 25 2014, 10:34 AM)
Yes, but this will free up the pet gem slot with maybe something defensive.
The 3rd  iteration is not up yet, and the numbers are still pending.
If ppl qq enough maybe Blizzard will buff? haha

Ive been trying several gems, and I really like gogok of swiftness.
The cd reduction really noticeable, and people might forgot this, but other skills also have their own breakpoints.
Higher bp will let you generate hatred faster, better dps for generators and also make lifesteal/loh better.

Current ptr I can do gr43 , if I can still manage gr43 next patch, Im a happy camper.
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yeah, let's QQ at official forum to get more bichslap dev team's attention!

BTW kinda lazy to be guinea pig for them, so I actually quit PTR and focus on my assassination for a while icon_idea.gif
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post Dec 1 2014, 09:59 AM

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er what's the 3rd change for M6 set? Can't browse the official forum today...
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post Dec 10 2014, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ Dec 9 2014, 01:13 PM)
no, still ptr. but ptr patch is up.

Pylon so weak now. Sometimes cant even clear a pack of elite even with full duration.

marauder 2 piece bonus made me able to reach gr35 with my strafe.  flex.gif
as for m6, feels significantly weaker than 2nd iteration, but at least for me, is stronger than live client.
Managed gr44, was 3rd on the leaderboard since it was just wiped tongue.gif
Also ancient weapons have been ninja nerfed, their damage have been reduced around 10-20% estimated by looking at my ancient calamity.

side note:

apparently m6 bonus is applied both on hero and sentry. (contradicting blue post statement)
if this is true, the gap between rucksack and alternatives (like chakram quiver) is even higher.
like all things Blizzard, we dont know if its a bug or intended.  doh.gif
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where can I find the details of 3d iteration? I can't find it from official forum.
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post Dec 10 2014, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ Dec 10 2014, 03:51 PM)
Ya, I think they didnt update the patch note
Theres a thread opened up concerning the "bug".
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/15537834775

Lets hope blue poster will say something.

Just my 2 cents, but I think the bug will stay, no way dh gonna have enough dps if it isnt the case.
That, or they need to buff the percentage of damage increase per sentry.
I think to avoid dh from being shoehorned into using rucksack, the damage buff needs to be high, but have diminishing stack. So, the gap between 3 and 5 sentries wont be that high.
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haizz.... always some rotten egg there spoiling the whole thing. On first page itself got ppl complained it's too strong so hope it's a bug. doh.gif
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post Jan 15 2015, 12:44 AM

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hm... not bad, 2.1.2 M6 is stronger... wonder any good/ fun build rather than cold build.
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post Jan 17 2015, 12:41 PM

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just curious, does "Increase % Sentry Damage" still needed? Was tempting to roll it for other affix.

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post Jan 19 2015, 01:13 AM

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Finally got my first Krider but the roll is doh.gif (me no rama somemore, feels like it's harder to drop rama now)

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post Jan 20 2015, 01:01 AM

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tried few build, cold build with krider shot still most powderful ~~~
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post Jan 22 2015, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(CyborgR @ Jan 20 2015, 11:10 AM)
krider will work just fine in normal rift, but in higher gr u will have problem with hatred regeneration, bare in mind your main dmg is still from your cluster arrow, krider probaly just work as hatred regen, coz the dmg from elemental arrow in higher gr is scratching on mobs body only.

y i mention any good 2h xbow/bow would work just fine with rcr,
Krider - +4 hatred shooting elemental arrow
primary evasive fire +7 hatred . which giv u faster hatred regen when u r waiting cooldown from preparation-punishment and companion dmg. more bullet = more dmg smile.gif

try it on greater rift you will know the different. normal rift definitely cant treat as benchmark.
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Just made few round tests, I must said you're right on this part.

I got an ancient Natalya's 1Hxbow, about 3k+ base dmg. I tried to swap it with my Krider, change elemental arrow to evasive fire.

Oh boy, the super fast atk speed of 1Hxbow refill my hatred really fast, and I was spamming CA almost every second.

And yeah, I clear the same level of GRift much faster than using Kridershot.

Now I just hope for an ancient Etrayu hmm.gif
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post Jan 22 2015, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(CyborgR @ Jan 22 2015, 04:08 AM)
Great find smile.gif now u can feel the diff of hatred regen from aspd we have. the patch is just like only a week. There will more to be discover. I have seen ppl using 1h clearin high gr, and many running multishot. Stay tuned and keep trying. Most of all enjoy the game

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i also have 1 nat slayer, don know where i lost my nat reflection, if not i can test m6+nat. it shud be fun smile.gif i have run it with nat slayer+nat boot+m6 but without cinder/pride is really not enough to feel the power.
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Hi do you mind share with me your fire skill set?

I have the relevant equipment for fire build but I have no idea which skill is able to replace the all powerful Maelstrom.

(I got ancient cindercoat but didn't use)

(Also, I assume fire build wont need the ballistic passive since not so much of rockets?)

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post Jan 22 2015, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(CyborgR @ Jan 22 2015, 12:53 PM)
is equivalent to cold build. just swap cindercoat ,and soj /reaper to fire. ballistic to archery for xbow 50% chd

http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/kongeng...onetta/14293077
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thanks a lot, will try it tonight. BTW I will stick to my ancient nat slayer since that's the only ancient high dps wep i have. (without rama!)

Eh one more thing, I just notice you still keep Cull of Weak and Bane of Trapped.

Can share where you got the crowd control effect from, is it Zei's stone's secondary effect?

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post Jan 22 2015, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(CyborgR @ Jan 22 2015, 02:07 PM)
Dh passive are too strong. u need both the steady aim and ctw. need make full use of it . Simple method first polar station drop on target. Then other 4 proc zei from distance. These method u proc both ctw and bot , zei as well.

Oh ya the one u see in diabloprogress that my fire party build. My team mate will do the crowd control
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but but... polar station no rocket like spit fire turret rclxub.gif
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post Jan 23 2015, 09:19 AM

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actually i got same question as Olman... GR35 ok but anything above is really tough, wonder how they manage it within the timer...
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post Jan 23 2015, 12:33 PM

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er... for some reason I find it's more fun to manage and fine tune your skill (gear) than go out and hit the mobs...
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post Jan 23 2015, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(CyborgR @ Jan 23 2015, 01:00 PM)
if u don't go out and hit how u wanna fine tune your skill? mayb that the misconception. too gear dependent. when having all the gear and still cant make it, must be the guy got lucky then. if u wanna break higher u need to break yourself first.
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QUOTE(qicquser @ Jan 23 2015, 01:08 PM)
It is not tuned when it is not tested. What are you tuning against?
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I means, get super excited when tuning for new build. When go hitting mob with the build, like 2 rounds of GRift then feels like same and got bore again. (Am I getting too bore with the game?)
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post Jan 23 2015, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(CyborgR @ Jan 23 2015, 01:37 PM)
ohh.understand u. perhaps u guy should start aiming for something to improve the game play. like a decent hellfire amulet or rorg ring. just aim for one build that will truly success. i have share everything i got i believe everyone can do >35 easily thru 40. weapon are really the most no issue for dh coz arcane barb can easily be crafted.pride fall can easily obtain in act 3 bounty. and  have all dmg% on helm boot quiver, 2 set cold element soj+bracer, i gurantee u guy can do over 35, melt them like normal rift.
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Haha thanks laugh.gif

BTW I'm currently GR 38, of course not within the timer...

Also I'm running on 1HXbow build at the moment, fast attack and fast hatred refill.

Yes after checking on my own gear, still plenty of room for improvement, currently I'm relying on Traveller's Pledge set for the +50% CHD. Will start looking for a really good replacement for a ring and farming for good hellfire ring. (did one yesterday, ultra crappy stat)

Anyway do have a look on my character blush.gif

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post Jan 24 2015, 11:12 AM

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I reroll some of my gear to RCR, so now total 21% reduction. If not mistaken I can get 1 extra shot of CA from full tank compare to earlier stat.

And yeah I survived GR35 with 6 mins left yesterday laugh.gif (the reason for 6 minutes was I mistakenly walked into Sand Shifter's tornado and thus killed...)

(and yeah, I was mindful of the distance mentioned by CyborgR)

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