If you use RoV stampede, you can't see it because its 1 or 2 more additional beast in top of the others that crash down.. Use other runes..

Like then no need to see beast which RoV best damages and better proc with the belt?

something interesting:

http://fightingdragonswithtaylorswift.com/kadala/

wanted to throw keyboard d, 100k shards still no ancient krider...

>.<

u r not alone sistar, I still haven't get ancient krider n calamity

all the rest I have gotten

Tonight tidur awal

Nat slayer - need attack speed or discipline, which one more important?

M6 = speed
Nat = speed (hatred drain fast from strafe)
UE = discipline

For me, if it is Nat set, the Balefire I will roll life per hit -> 10 CDR then punch hole
The slayer I will roll Vitality -> 10 CDR then punch hole.

Of course, this is just my suggestion.

For me, Nat Slayer need 10 CDR, if CDR is about 46%, then roughly 2 ~ 3 second can have 1 RoV. Of course, with the condition that the Evasion fire always hit the enemy to reduce the cool down time of RoV.

So for Nat set need at least 46% cool down?

There are some "experiment" done by those China player stated 46% of CDR is the best, but actually I not so sure how best it is, so just make as much as you can, Glove - 8%, shoulder - 8%, helmert - 12.5%, both weapon - 20%, Paragon - 10%

You can look on those people on the high Great rift top rank, mostly have CDR on both weapon (I didn't check top rank player for 2 weeks, but the equipment attribute should be the same)

PS: Oh ya, if put on Gogok of Swiftness gems (level 25), u will get another 15% CDR

This post has been edited by user5092: May 14 2015, 12:14 PM

For NAT set, usually what is the other 1 hand crossbow to pair with?

And what rune they use for RoV skill?

Bcs my nat set is not as strong as my UE set, so thinking what is going wrong besides cooldown not enough.

Actually I also feels the Nat set not so good as UE set. My UE set feels like more dmg and responsive.
You are able to see the effects of mob health going down vs Nat set.

If Nat set put so much into CDR then where is the dmg coming from?

I have run a couple of Grifts at 50++ with 2DH using Nat set. One of them is RoV with Freeze and other RoV drop bombs.
Both are 50paragon higher than me, but my char kills more elites.

When I see the Crashing belt dmg but then in actual play ?
Could it be cos it doesn't proc that well?

Anyway maybe I dun know how to also set the skills & key bindings for Nat build?

This post has been edited by DarkNite: May 14 2015, 02:09 PM

Usually is Calamity or the Fire crossbow, see which 1 you have it. Please note that the damage of the RoV will only depends on your damage of main weapon. means if you have high dmg calamity, please put as main weapon, then put the Nat Slayer as assist weapon.

Rune of VoR normally is Stampede for solo, and Anathema for group, never use Stampede in group, you might get kick by your team member, unless the other members are all DH, then it might be some exception....

The crashing belt is important, need to get as near 4000% as possible, even though the other attribute of the belt you get are sucks.

You can just refer to those top rank player.

Thanks for reply, i have both ancient fire balecaster and nat hand crossbow, bale caster too bad not having discipline secondary affix, I manage to up climb to GR Lv 43 with 4 piece ancients at Paragon Lv 390 of UE set and sacrifice regeneration of hatred results maximum 66 disciplines, average 200M~400M crt dmg.

Possible to do 1b crt dmg using UE set? anyone tried that before?

If encounter Reflect Damage Boss, died like hell.

I can't comment more on whether which set is good, since I didn't play much on UE set.

The CDR is the result of sacrifice the vitality, the damage will be have no effect, it is same as UE set to get the Resource Cost Reduction.

The crashing belt you need to have as near 4000% as possible, 3500% and 4000% make a huge diff in damage.

Yes with - F+R, wolf and BBV.

what is BBV?

U6 is great for support and DPS but almost impossible to solo in high GR. The proc from Crashing Rain belt is the 1st hit, the one with the highest value of damage, it is the hit before crashing beast from your RoV comes down.

A well built N6 should be able to do 6-8b critical damage from the proc of Crashing Rain. Most the damage from N6 comes from Crashing Rain proc so N6 usually stack as much CDR as possible to keep casing RoV for damage and crowd control. Fire for knockbacks, cold for freezing.

Another thing is although the report says you killed the elite, it doesn't mean you actually did more damage, it just meant you made the killing blow. U6 hits faster with damage ranging from 450m to 1.2b so its easier to kill steal.

Big Bad Voodoo. WD buff.

The rockets from Multishot-Arsenal can hit 1.5b even without Wolf and BBV buff.

This post has been edited by Silverfire: May 14 2015, 05:27 PM