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K3nnYkl82
post Dec 2 2014, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Dec 2 2014, 08:25 AM)
depends on you la

like i mentioned earlier when i refuel i'll make it at 2 transaction lo.....

4 full tanks per month get me like 8-9 transactions

but some how they only allow payment through the pump not the casher inside the petrol station rclxub.gif
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But there is only 4 or5 Mon a month
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post Dec 2 2014, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(jnick @ Dec 2 2014, 09:31 AM)
Good morning.

Today TUE97..... Anyone tried ?
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Thew lo.. U reminded me ..

Since Mr winner does not want to share the result of the survey, i think we need to conduct testing ourselves..

We need all 7 samples..

Mon 97
Tue 97
Wed 97
Thu 97
Fri 97
Sat 97
Sun 97

Surely very expensive
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post Dec 2 2014, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(iguana_tan @ Dec 2 2014, 10:07 AM)
talking abt RON97, last week i tried 1 full tank but not really feel the different... power, fc, accelerate cant really feel the different...
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from day 1 i already says .. Ron is about how much compression it can take. nothing to do with additional power.
you might only gain differences at high rev at longer duration. Each stroke is very very fast hence produce a lot of heat which contribute to possible pre-ignite of fuel. with Ron97 u will have better rejection over knocking. That is about it.
if you drive like an unker.. the only posible way to save fuel is that Ron97 more expensive and u drive slower tongue.gif

again i donno la... MON seems higher better worrr
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post Dec 2 2014, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(koh_424 @ Dec 2 2014, 10:08 AM)
Try 1 tank not enough geh.

At least 2 or 3 tank then should know the different.
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Honestly ... stop wasting your money and save it to treat me yumcha better..

Paultan Reseach Octane Number @ RON

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It is a misunderstanding to think that RON97 fuels produce more power than RON92 fuels, even more so with the fact that in reality a higher RON number means the fuel burns less easily! RON refers to the ability of the fuel to resist knocking and nothing else.
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Another common minimum RON rating is RON95, but since we do not have RON95 fuel in our market, we have to use RON97 fuel for the engine. These engines normally have higher compression ratios, like the one found in the Satria GTI so it needs higher knock resistance to withstand higher compression.
paultan also dun wan explain MON sweat.gif
common .. share us the MON research papers
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post Dec 2 2014, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Dec 2 2014, 10:22 AM)
like Metoo mentioned 99% of malaysia use butt dyno.

"after i pump i felt my car more powerful and i have better FC"

this they tell themselves to justify the spend they did tongue.gif
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there was one tank .. i empty till kau kau i pump 97 .. juz to make my colleague look dumb tongue.gif .. his forte 1.6 pump 97 ... he says banyak save fuel..

i drive like normal .. the FC same ... i terus says .. much better FC ur head.. tongue.gif

but i could be wrong la... 97 have better MON u see
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post Dec 2 2014, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(s@ni @ Dec 2 2014, 10:34 AM)
waste your monneh geh..should have asked him to pay the difference laugh.gif
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actually i also purposely test coz many said so ... just wanna cuba cuba.. tat time 2.70 ... vmad.gif after test they says 2.55 ... vmad.gif


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post Dec 2 2014, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(woe.com @ Dec 2 2014, 10:42 AM)
like we pour packet of sugar into container, must shake shake the container let the air release then the sugar can fully fill into it maa LOL  sweat.gif
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waht to do .. they only can pump 97
now ringgit going down .. per litre they pay less than 1 SGD .. sure pump kau kau lo
singaporean KIASU ma
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post Dec 2 2014, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Dec 2 2014, 10:52 AM)
As said, I can produce the cert, test price you pay me and to pay my salary, employer's EPF contribution until I get my next job once I get sacked. Is pretty simple only.
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i also can produce the cert, test price you pay me and to pay my salary, employer's EPF contribution until i get my next job once i get sacked also .. it is also pretty simple. really ..

Dude .. Manufacturer is using RON as a standard and u are arguing using ur MON ..
so in other words u are saying manufacturer is WRONG.. you are more correct than Manufcaturer ..

Yes . no one doubt for MON 90 is better than RON 90 .. no one doubt that.. but the debate is all about manufacturer recommendation which is in RON ..

you are quite similiar to doctor jay in a way ..
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post Dec 2 2014, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Dec 2 2014, 10:52 AM)
As said, I can produce the cert, test price you pay me and to pay my salary, employer's EPF contribution until I get my next job once I get sacked. Is pretty simple only.
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Mitsubishi Australia

you see ur similiarity to prof jay ?
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post Dec 2 2014, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Dec 2 2014, 11:03 AM)
Sorry, if you know nuts on product's certification, don't talk like an expert. You look like an expert in cyber world just because you have more supporters that have 0 knowledge on this in cyber world.
As said, we write a black and white to secure my income and I produce the cert, and all the quality inside. RON is nothing on petrol's quality. Even what published by Motor trader or paul tan's website also only touches 2%.
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see again .. we know testing in MON is better than RON .. however Manufacturer recommended in RON .. again u sounds like prof .. MANUFACTURER IS WRONG..

and you says u can produce the cert where i have to pay ..means u dun have the cert in hand.. and u heard from ur monther fren sister in law son neighbour frens brother result ... whistling.gif

so now tell me since RON useless... why manufacturer still use as RECOMMENDATIOn .. why not just use it in MON ?
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QUOTE(koh_424 @ Dec 2 2014, 11:04 AM)
Wah...the bilue color looks good
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forget it la... it useless... RON IS NOTHING ... the manufcaturer uhm dim one..
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post Dec 2 2014, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Dec 2 2014, 11:13 AM)
I have code of conduct to follow, so if you want to fish me for the cert, a black and white to secure my income then you can have it.
No black and white, no further talking. You may take your phone now and ask your loser friends to chime in and help you to bash me, just to justify you are right, I'm wrong in this cyber world.
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ok . i stop asking for cert now .. since u DIE DIE wan black and white.. no point argue with u about RON and MON difference which everyone agrees.. yess ... we agree ..
the point is manufacturer recommended in RON ... and u are looking at MON .. so are u saying manufacturer wrong ?

that is the key question we want to talk about ..

no discripency on MON and RON difference..

so i pour in RON 90 as recommended by mitsubishi Australia .. if the engine failed can i sue them ?
can i can i ?


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post Dec 2 2014, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(ffrulz @ Dec 2 2014, 11:15 AM)
Like that if we decided to stick with 97 forever then you can flash in a map that has more advanced timing then only can feel the difference?

Or need to have more aggressive ignition timing along with higher compression pistons etc then only will have the difference in performance?

Cause what I can think of is that those people who stated that they experience more power with 97 is like what you said the knock sensor will detect more resistance to knocking due to 97 and the ECU will advance timing a little more and thus the engine will be able to generate more power?
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there is still an upper limit timing map .. the ecu wont go above that. and again .. our ECU is not pro-active type .. its a closed loop type.. it detected knock through the knock sensor .. which then only start to retard the timing .. in other words .. knock already occur FIRST .. its better to have prevention then cure u see..

inside the map consist a lot of things..
including things like warm up retard mapping.. this to ensure lesser emission is lower when your engine still cold.
there is also cold temperature mivec settings..

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post Dec 2 2014, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 2 2014, 11:18 AM)
Pip_X
suddenly turbo spooled and chiong MON97 new thread version liao lorh
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nah.. just wanna get CONFIRMATION from Mr Winner .. (as usual those whom call ppl loser are the winner) .. just like prof jay whom called others salesman ..

I WAN PUT IN RON90 and SUE KAU MITSUBISHI ... i mean PROTON
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post Dec 2 2014, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Dec 2 2014, 11:21 AM)
Still want to fish me again?
Nah, no black and white and you want to tok kok, I talk nuts with you.
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hi prof supersound... metoo sudah offer .. how ?

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post Dec 2 2014, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(ffrulz @ Dec 2 2014, 11:26 AM)
This upper timing limit map, can increase?
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of coz can increase.. have to do proper dyno thou.
but like i said .. PREVENTION is better than CURE.. so when u tune it higher.. yes .. the knock sensor will detect and retad the timing if the knock occurs... keywords are the KNOCK OCCURS. (Happened)..

And not to mention the amount of gain wont be much of a difference unless u further enhance with higher compression piston n high cams. and 1 april 2015 ... GST mari.. RON97 gonna + 6% .. which is 15 cents.. which bring the difference to 35 cent to 40 cents.. provided the crude oil price does not goes up much.
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post Dec 2 2014, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Dec 2 2014, 11:30 AM)
No need to counter offer me.
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sorry dude prof .. u donno what metoo job is .. whistling.gif
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post Dec 2 2014, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Dec 2 2014, 11:34 AM)
he'll reply you give me black and white then i'll tell you what my job isĀ  tongue.gif
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metoo have the COA ma.. see what prof says now lo.

he no need loose his job jo ma..


next he will ask metoo punya oil test isit from thailand tongue.gif

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post Dec 2 2014, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(woe.com @ Dec 2 2014, 11:47 AM)
good heart u sendiri know sendiri stuff la LOL
"Due to high volume of cases, we are unable to answer your question now, please hold and we will get back to you as soon as we can."
edison1437 I gip u black & white bubble gum u tell me your job can mou  notworthy.gif
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sudah answer ffrulz ma..

we debate with Prof sound is just to clear up the confusion only.. later misslead other no good lo..

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post Dec 2 2014, 11:54 AM

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Damn it.. .prof sound was right !

Ron is uselesss for our car ... ....
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