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post Oct 10 2014, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(lin00b @ Oct 10 2014, 07:11 AM)
user friendliness is the main point i guess. and from a good user friendliness you get better experience.

so the question i have is: in general.. if you ignore hardware specific stuff like camera quality, water proof, sony skin, etc that is exclusive to sony, can i expect similar experience across android phone of similar spec? i.e if same 4.4 kit kat, same snapdragon, same ram, same screen size - 3rd party app experience should be similar?
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Would you mind stating which apps that are buggy for you? It could be just your selection of apps
A study shows that apps actually crash much more often in iOS, just that iOS hides the crash by returning to homescreen immmediately.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2455622,00.asp

I've not used Xperia Z3, but my Nexus 7 2013 running Kitkat 4.4 is smooth, no lag, very fast with 2 gb ram and 1.5 quad-core Tegra. Since Sony's UI sticks close to the vanilla Android, I don't expect much lag. I also read that most users of Z3 here state that it's smooth and fluid.

Personally, I think Android is easier to navigate. With the back button, home, and recent apps/settings I know what to do. With a single home button on the iPhone, if I'm in the middle of an app and want to go back to a previous page/settings, what do I do?


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post Oct 10 2014, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(jonoave @ Oct 10 2014, 05:14 PM)
Would you mind stating which apps that are buggy for you? It could be just your selection of apps
A study shows that apps actually crash much more often in iOS, just that iOS hides the crash by returning to homescreen immmediately.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2455622,00.asp

I've not used Xperia Z3, but my Nexus 7 2013 running Kitkat 4.4 is smooth, no lag, very fast with 2 gb ram and 1.5 quad-core Tegra. Since Sony's UI sticks close to the vanilla Android, I don't expect much lag. I also read that most users of Z3 here state that it's smooth and fluid.

Personally, I think Android is easier to navigate. With the back button, home, and recent apps/settings I know what to do.  With a single home button on the iPhone, if I'm in the middle of an app and want to go back to a previous page/settings, what do I do?
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Sony's UI actually is very smooth regardless low or high-end components but with wrong or poor optimization, it will cause lag. However, since Sony's mid range phones also perform smooth and flawless, I assume their system has been stable since then.

So if customers or friends bullshit me how lag Sony's UI is and praise other manufacturers, troll is ready. brows.gif
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Oct 10 2014, 12:36 PM)
Sony's UI actually is very smooth regardless low or high-end components but with wrong or poor optimization, it will cause lag. However, since Sony's mid range phones also perform smooth and flawless, I assume their system has been stable since then.

So if customers or friends bullshit me how lag Sony's UI is and praise other manufacturers, troll is ready. brows.gif
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Well in all honesty, my Xperia S does lag quite a bit compared to when I first got it.

I strongly suspect that's because of RAM, since it only has 1 gb RAM and stuck on Jelly bean 4.1.2 (last update by Sony, don't intent to root it). Looking at memory usage, Swiftkey and the notification bar app takes up quite a bit of RAM. If I'm running certain games, it will hog up the RAM and cause other apps in the background to close. And I get the the "Unfortunately, Maps has quit" notifications quite often.

Running the same game, with Swiftkey etc on my Nexus 7 2013 is no problem. Even then I see the RAM usage approaching almost 700-800 MB, so without Svelte optimisation and only 1 GB RAM it's little wonder lag happens.

That's why i'm looking forward to upgrade to an XperiaZ3 (or maybe Z2, depending on the price difference). tongue.gif

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post Oct 10 2014, 06:52 PM

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<___< the last 16 hour

welp my progression with unit is so far so good


really no one want the extra unit a? laugh.gif

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post Oct 10 2014, 09:11 PM

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oh wait edited

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gah why no firmware updates from sony ?? so confident that their software cant be improved further?
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Oct 9 2014, 11:27 PM)
but not sure if there is Mocolo for Z3.
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Got. Just asked the seller. But already finish,coz demand is high. According to him,will restock in a couple of weeks.
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post Oct 11 2014, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(jonoave @ Oct 10 2014, 06:25 PM)
Well in all honesty, my Xperia S does lag quite a bit compared to when I first got it.

I strongly suspect that's because of RAM, since it only has 1 gb RAM and stuck on Jelly bean 4.1.2 (last update by Sony, don't intent to root it). Looking at memory usage, Swiftkey and the notification bar app takes up quite a bit of RAM. If I'm running certain games, it will hog up the RAM and cause other apps in the background to close. And I get the the "Unfortunately, Maps has quit" notifications quite often.

Running the same game, with Swiftkey etc on my Nexus 7 2013 is no problem. Even then I see the RAM usage approaching almost 700-800 MB, so without Svelte optimisation and only 1 GB RAM it's little wonder lag happens.

That's why i'm looking forward to upgrade to an XperiaZ3 (or maybe Z2, depending on the price difference). tongue.gif
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that was the era when iFans still like to refer android as laggy piece of shit. now we are in kitkat era. heck, i can ask them back, 'did you just mentioned lag? what era are you in now?' laugh.gif
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post Oct 11 2014, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(Neo|ofGeo @ Oct 10 2014, 06:52 PM)
<___< the last 16 hour

welp my progression with unit is so far so good
really no one want the extra unit a? laugh.gif
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If only you're letting go your copper unit, then I will consider to take it lol
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post Oct 11 2014, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(Neo|ofGeo @ Oct 10 2014, 06:52 PM)
<___< the last 16 hour

welp my progression with unit is so far so good
really no one want the extra unit a? laugh.gif
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Extra black unit? Brand new? How much bro? Pm me
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post Oct 11 2014, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(jonoave @ Oct 10 2014, 05:14 PM)
Would you mind stating which apps that are buggy for you? It could be just your selection of apps
A study shows that apps actually crash much more often in iOS, just that iOS hides the crash by returning to homescreen immmediately.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2455622,00.asp

I've not used Xperia Z3, but my Nexus 7 2013 running Kitkat 4.4 is smooth, no lag, very fast with 2 gb ram and 1.5 quad-core Tegra. Since Sony's UI sticks close to the vanilla Android, I don't expect much lag. I also read that most users of Z3 here state that it's smooth and fluid.

Personally, I think Android is easier to navigate. With the back button, home, and recent apps/settings I know what to do.  With a single home button on the iPhone, if I'm in the middle of an app and want to go back to a previous page/settings, what do I do?
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zite is one. not crashy, but sometime fail to open an article, workaround is to select open in browser - which links to chrome.

the google app store also does not help me discover as much interesting apps compared to ios app store. i'm sure most of the apps exist on both platforms by now - but apple does a much better job promoting them.

i do like the back button in android. and keyboards (but thats fixed in ios d). I dont like the high numbers of launchers, dialers, etc that seem to offer the same functionality.

but this is derailing from my initial query.. i'm guessing that the android experience is generally same across brands from the response i m getting.
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post Oct 11 2014, 02:32 AM

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QUOTE(lin00b @ Oct 10 2014, 08:20 PM)
zite is one. not crashy, but sometime fail to open an article, workaround is to select open in browser - which links to chrome.

the google app store also does not help me discover as much interesting apps compared to ios app store. i'm sure most of the apps exist on both platforms by now - but apple does a much better job promoting them.

i do like the back button in android. and keyboards (but thats fixed in ios d). I dont like the high numbers of launchers, dialers, etc that seem to offer the same functionality.

but this is derailing from my initial query.. i'm guessing that the android experience is generally same across brands from the response i m getting.
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I've not used zite before, so I can't comment. But in Android, there are usually a few apps that offer similar functionalities, and might be more stable for your device. That's one of the downsides of getting an app to work on hundreds of different devices with different specs.

As for app discovery, I can't say about iOS since I've not used it. But I've discovered lots of apps through google play.
For google, it tries to deliver based on what you like. So you have to put in a bit of effort. Start rating apps, and it will show similar apps that you might like. If you have G+, it will also recommend apps that your friends are using
I've found lots of interesting apps these ways.

I also surf AndroidPolice and AndroidCentral, so I also pick up interesting apps and apps on sale from there.

The number of launchers etc, doesn't bother me. I don't use them and stick to the Sony UI or vanilla android UI. I tried Nova Launcher once because I see it being highly recommended. Ddin't like it so I didn't keep it. That's the beauty of chocie, it's there for people who might like it.

This post has been edited by jonoave: Oct 11 2014, 02:43 AM
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QUOTE(off_shore @ Oct 11 2014, 12:59 AM)
If only you're letting go your copper unit, then I will consider to take it lol
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Can't the color is too smexy,
put with leather wallet,it look like a perfect pair
QUOTE(Gilthoniel @ Oct 11 2014, 01:17 AM)
Extra black unit? Brand new? How much bro? Pm me
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PM'ed,
hope you can consider it.

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post Oct 11 2014, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(Neo|ofGeo @ Oct 11 2014, 04:04 AM)
Can't the color is too smexy,
put with leather wallet,it look like a perfect pair

PM'ed,
hope you can consider it.
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How much you're selling it anyway?
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post Oct 11 2014, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(off_shore @ Oct 11 2014, 09:57 AM)
How much you're selling it anyway?
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post Oct 11 2014, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Oct 11 2014, 12:55 AM)
that was the era when iFans still like to refer android as laggy piece of shit. now we are in kitkat era. heck, i can ask them back, 'did you just mentioned lag? what era are you in now?' laugh.gif
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Xperia S, era of the 4.0.4 laugh.gif
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QUOTE(mudkipryan94 @ Oct 11 2014, 10:47 AM)
Xperia S, era of the 4.0.4 laugh.gif
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bro, just noticed you are using C6802. finally got chance to change? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Oct 11 2014, 10:52 AM)
bro, just noticed you are using C6802. finally got chance to change? hmm.gif
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eh... my bad doh.gif sorry arh...

about ZU, yes hehe.. sweat.gif
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When I connected the phone to PC, there was a prompt for software update. So, I proceed to do so. The download really took a long time hmm.gif .

Unfortunately during updating, error detected and update aborted. Luckily my phone was not bricked. sweat.gif

Will there be updates through OTA or is it only through PC?
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QUOTE(Volfeed @ Oct 11 2014, 06:44 PM)
When I connected the phone to PC, there was a prompt for software update. So, I proceed to do so. The download really took a long time  hmm.gif .

Unfortunately during updating, error detected and update aborted. Luckily my phone was not bricked.  sweat.gif

Will there be updates through OTA or is it only through PC?
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my friend said the xperia update normally need to go through PC.
and the pc download the new software was EXTREMELY~~~ long.....
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