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post Nov 11 2014, 07:54 AM

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For those who want a bit more punch in their RWS system, there is also a 30mm autocannon with 7.62mm coaxial MG version:

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post Nov 11 2014, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(Avex @ Nov 11 2014, 09:30 AM)
10 years and Malaysia still can't even show a Javelin type equipment equivalent. Potato level we are at
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Besides the US, who can actually design an NLOS system like Javelin?
Russia AFAIK also doesn't have one, Israel has the SPIKE, India has the Nagr and now the PRC has the HJ-12.

So unless Malaysia is in that top 5 weapon manufacturer states, I think your opinion is ridiculous.
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post Nov 11 2014, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Nov 11 2014, 10:01 AM)
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Is this original version or recon variant? Too plain-looking for me. I was expecting some sort of opto-electronic gear like IR unit or long range cameras in a recon unit.
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post Nov 11 2014, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Nov 11 2014, 10:14 AM)
It is the Recon Vehicle variant.
IR or some sort of opto-electronic gear (the small square type beside the commander & in front of the gunner) can be seen clearly from this pic:
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Aiyaa so small, didn't notice it... biggrin.gif

I expected a scout car would be something like this:
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post Nov 11 2014, 10:27 AM

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Haha the cutest anti-aircraft vehicle ever! laugh.gif
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post Nov 11 2014, 10:56 AM

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ZBL-09 Assault gun variant with 105mm rifled gun. From the people standing beside it, we can scale how large the vehicle really is.

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post Nov 11 2014, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Nov 11 2014, 11:01 AM)
Pretty much on par with other 8x8s, wonder if our AV8 can mount assault gun or go crazy with howitzers
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I think if the turret ring size is right I think you can install any turret you want, as long as the hull allows the weight. I think AV8 turret ring size at most can only fit a medium sized 2-man turret, I haven't seen any mention of plans installing anything heavier than a 25mm turret.

ZBL-09 started originally with ZBD-09 IFV with 30mm autocannon and later upgraded to ZBL-09 modular system with all the variants I mentioned in earlier posts.

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post Nov 11 2014, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Nov 11 2014, 11:15 AM)
Looks like they completely throw the apc function, the rear ramp door is only a small panel now

If then this is a tank destroyer thru and thru

Not sure AV8 can do the same
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Same with SP Artillery version, they've removed the rear ramp and left a small door. I also doubt they can fit any useful amount of infantry with large fighting compartment of that large 105mm turret taking up space in the passenger compartment.

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A bit strange though, that they don't have a stabilizing system like outrigger legs or rear spade. Combined with the vehicle's relatively low weight snd wheeled drive, each shot must rock the hull significantly, causing not so optimal accuracy.

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post Nov 11 2014, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Nov 11 2014, 11:28 AM)
So many variants for one platform, av8 12-variants seems so few ady

But I belip av8 also got potential, we ady got the platform
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With good R&D surely can. ZBL-09 also started life a single vehicle of IFV role when it first appeared in 2008. Recent upgrade project in 2011-2012 only made the design modular into the many variants we see today. It is reported that Norinco & Poly Technologies plan to design up to 26 variants for the ZBL-09.

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post Nov 11 2014, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(lulz @ Nov 11 2014, 11:40 AM)
Got any news or video of chinese military hardware in use in africa? I've seen small arms in pictures but these new bigger items still not around. They probably have a big military hardware consumption inside so not really have the time/inventory to export out yet.
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Eh, got many examples already la bro:

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Nigeria has bought about 150 of these CS/VP3 MRAPs

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Also these MRAPs for the Ugandan police, while still in China (probably for tests before delivery)

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post Nov 11 2014, 12:06 PM

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Nothing wrong with being ready. Tanzania is ok economically,so it's ok to have a decent armed forces. Choosing to buy PRC can also maximize acquisition, due to lower cost.

I hear also Norinco has special packages that can potentially cater to smaller countries with lower defense budgets. Chinese media has called these packages as 'military set meals'. laugh.gif

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Norinco has even devised a novel way to make buying weapons easier: It bundles together starter kits of basic defense gear—everything from rifles to howitzers, laser-guided bombs, armored personnel carriers, tanks, and drones—for governments that want to quickly outfit their armed forces. Chinese state media has dubbed the package a “military set meal.”

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post Nov 11 2014, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Nov 11 2014, 02:04 PM)
just compare M-346 also cost 30 million each (S'pore order)
hawk 2xx light attack jet also cost 30~33 each.
TA-50 close to 40 million. (indo order)
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Haha nobody wanna mention Chinese JL-8? Basic price $10 million USD only laugh.gif

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post Nov 11 2014, 03:24 PM

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Someone tell me this is not a TOW missile laugh.gif
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post Nov 11 2014, 03:29 PM

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Nice HJ-12 display
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post Nov 11 2014, 04:15 PM

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HJ-8L ATGM

The system can use the same missile as the original HJ-8, or a smaller, lighter missile with shorter range. The main improvement of the system is that it has a smaller and lighter tracking system (hence the 'L' for 'Light') which reduces the overall weight of the system to 22.5kg, light enough to be carried by at least 2 men (1 carries the tracker unit & 1 carries the missile tube.

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Contrast with original HJ-8 with its massive tripod and tracking system:

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post Nov 11 2014, 06:42 PM

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Ingat Russia saja ke boleh sorok missile dalam kontena? laugh.gif

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post Nov 11 2014, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(cunnilinguist @ Nov 11 2014, 08:38 PM)
afaik we also have this
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Yes we do, only the ones we have is bought from Pakistan who license-build these. Pakistanis call their version the Bakhtar Shikan.

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post Nov 12 2014, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Nov 12 2014, 06:03 AM)
CA/SA5 30 mm self-propelled anti-aircraft gun (SPAAG)
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Much clearer pic of the SPAAG system:

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post Nov 12 2014, 09:52 AM

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New MRAP design from China's Poly Technology Inc.
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Developed for police and military use, the 4 x 4 wheeled Security Enforcement Transportation (SET) Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) vehicle was developed by Poly Technologies Inc., a subsidiary of China Poly Group Corporation.

The SET MRAP is part of a range of MRAP vehicles developed based on technology and know-how provided to Poly Technologies by Mobile Land Systems, an armored vehicle manufacturer from South Africa.

The armored hull has been specially designed to protect its passengers from outside threats, including from explosives such as Improvised Explosive Devices (IED) or land mines. Its infrared signature has also been reduced in its design.

The vehicle has been exported and is currently used by the security forces of Uganda and the Democratic Republic of Congo.

Specifications
Length: 6.8 meters
Width: 2.5 meters
height: 2.75 meters
Gross Weight: 14000 kg
Payload: 3200 kg
Engine: 260 hp water-cooled diesel
Ballistic Protection Level: BR-3 to BR-7 depending on customer needs
Mine Protection Level: 4 kg under belly and 7 kg under wheel

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post Nov 12 2014, 10:04 AM

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Potential customers? brows.gif
Does anyone know which armed forces do these officers belong to?

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Come on, Habibi, Special price for 500 missiles?

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