QUOTE(mois @ Oct 16 2014, 08:45 AM)
This is still considered a mild correction. Fundsupermart.com v7, DIY unit trust investing
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Oct 16 2014, 08:51 AM
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Oct 16 2014, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE(iamoracle @ Oct 16 2014, 09:41 AM) When Markets Correct, Take Advantage: Recommended Funds at 1% sales charge WTH! I just topped two days ago and yesterday! http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=5117 Kenanga Growth Fund N.A. RM 2000.00 - - 1.00% Cheque CHEQ Pending Buy |
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Oct 16 2014, 12:47 PM
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Oct 16 2014, 05:49 PM
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Come on, most of the world indices haven't really drop more than 10%.
What is the bear definition? |
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Oct 16 2014, 06:01 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 16 2014, 05:56 PM) I didn't say all. I said most or some. QUOTE European stocks dropped for an eighth day in the longest rout since 2003, oil fell toward $80 a barrel and Treasuries rose on concern global growth is slowing. Bonds from Greece to Spain slid while the dollar strengthened. The Stoxx Europe 600 Index (BCOM) lost 1.5 percent at 10:30 a.m. in London after dropping 3.2 percent yesterday. Standard & Poor’s 500 Index futures declined 0.4 percent. West Texas Intermediate crude slid 1.5 percent to $80.55, dragging a gauge of commodities to a five-year low. Ten-year Treasuries advanced for an eighth day, the longest winning streak in two years. The yield on similar-maturity Greek bonds jumped 81 basis points and Spain’s yield increased 21 basis points. The dollar gained 0.3 percent to $1.2794 per euro. URL: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-10-15/a...p-with-oil.html |
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Oct 16 2014, 07:46 PM
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KGF dropped below 1.0000 (0.9857)
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Oct 16 2014, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Oct 16 2014, 07:57 PM) just for info....FSM Penang office moved... The T&C is not stated?NEW address & phone contact ..... http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=5125 new members got 0.88% SC? |
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Oct 16 2014, 08:04 PM
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Europe is bleeding and lost 2%
Crude (WTI) below USD 80 This post has been edited by David83: Oct 16 2014, 08:05 PM |
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Oct 17 2014, 07:18 AM
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US market closed nearly flat.
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Oct 17 2014, 10:13 AM
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Heart must be steady
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Oct 17 2014, 03:48 PM
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Oct 17 2014, 03:58 PM
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Europe market rises > 1%.
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Oct 18 2014, 07:05 AM
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Oct 18 2014, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 18 2014, 07:30 AM) Work out a hypothetical scenario is easiest to understand such concepts... Sorry, my maths isn't my strong subject.Imagine fund size RM100,000 NAV: RM1.0000 Previously outstanding units were 100,000 Now they do 2:5 split/bonus Now become 140,000 units NAV becomes: RM0.7143 If my finance knowledge doesn't fail me... U take pre-split NAV i.e. RM1.0000 U do this factoring... 2:5 split mar... RM1.0000 *5/7 to get your ex-split NAV Similarly, to get back to pre-split NAV, u take ex-split NAV RM0.7143 * 7/5 Split is more straightforward than distribution, cos everyone is taking the units, no one is taking cash out. Whereas distribution, some unitholders take cash, some reinvest. So the calculation not so straightforward. How to arrive the ratio of 5/7 from the 2:5 split? The rest of the pre and post split fundamental I already knew it. |
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 18 2014, 10:07 AM) Before split, u have 5 Because I need to re-cal the average unit price after the split. After split, u have 7 Extra u get, 2 ^ The numbers for the factor calculation Eh, why u bother with the calculation? Just take the number of units u holding before split Divide the number by 5 and multiplied with 2 That is the number of "free" units u get Just add on to your holdings No need assign NAV price to it... |
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Oct 18 2014, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 18 2014, 10:11 AM) u punya matematik... I tried to figure out the whole night and I still can't brain. Your cost DIVIDE new total no. of units will be your avg price post-split lor No need bother with the split calculation Maybe your tracking worksheet different from mine Maybe I think too much! |
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 18 2014, 10:15 AM) Hair is precious...don't lose too much of them I used the wrong ratio.Distributions, splits, bonus issues, all those will mess up the average cost per unit calculation That's why I gave up, I only track total profit/(loss) and IRR nowadays, too much numbers and % which may not help at all That's why everything wrong! The ratio I used is 2/5 (2:5) LOL This post has been edited by David83: Oct 18 2014, 10:30 AM |
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Oct 19 2014, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Oct 19 2014, 10:18 PM) ok, so basically now its 2:5 ratio now.. Understand what is unit split first.but still i dont understand why the loss of 30% sorry boss for disturbing you Then flip back few pages back on how the NAV has been adjusted after the unit split exercise as I have asked on this question. You're seeing a loss of 30% because the NEW units after the split exercise hasn't credited to your account. Thank you and goodbye! |
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NIKKEI 225 jumps 3%
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