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azarimy
post Aug 25 2014, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(Just Visiting By @ Aug 25 2014, 08:49 AM)
They use the marks of each paper, not the grade. Hence it is impossible for you to calculate your final grades as the marks for each paper were not disclosed.

Therefore, it is also possible for you to get an different final grades for the same combination. For example, if you get 2A 1A-, the final grade may be an A if it's 2 high A and one high A-, or it may be an A- if it's two low A and a very low A-.
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where did u get this from?
azarimy
post Aug 25 2014, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(Just Visiting By @ Aug 25 2014, 09:37 AM)
I am an STPM 2013 graduate.

The combination thing is true. I've seen it on black and white from different result slips.

Another example, my Chemistry grade was A-/B+/A/A (paper 1-paper 4 in order) but my final grade is A-.

My other friend got A/B+/C+/A for PA but he got an A for the final grade for Pengajian Am.

Oh yes, it's easier to get an A for PA. But it's also easy to fail PA. Make no mistakes at all, you get your A. Make a tiny stupid mistake like forgetting to label your axis, you get only B or below.

Thread carefully. It either comes great, or you plunge horribly.
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i've been in education for 12 years. CGPA calculations using other values than grade-point is very unconventional in malaysia.

one explanation is the weightage of every semester is different. this is common in UK universities, where the 1st few semesters carry lesser impact than the later ones. but again, this wont explain why u get an A-. it should've been A.

else, either it was an error on his results (based on standard calculation), or yours (based on different weightages per sem).
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post Aug 29 2014, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(Just Visiting By @ Aug 29 2014, 04:38 AM)
We called MPM. They confirmed the final grade is based on the total overall marks (3 papers + PBS).

There is absolutely no way you could calculate your final pointer because the marks of each papers are not disclosed to candidates.

This is why all the methods you have tried failed.
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i think i've explained this before. u cannot calculate CGPA directly from marks percentage. i've looked into the worldwide convention for this, and even UiTM, which uses unconventional method, still interprets the CGPA through grade-point value (or kaedah wajaran).

the ministry complies to ISO. so it has to move based on the established methodologies only, and cant just suka2 create a new, untested system and implement it nationwide. sure, it's not disclosed, but having been in the system for over 12 years, i can assure u there are many people in the ministry who will buat bising if anyone tries to implement anything unconventional. not everyone in the ministry of education are loyal to the current government.

so bottom line is, it has to be based on a conventional, established method. meaning:

a grade will have an absolute value (grade point). since 4.00 is the highest, we can assume A is 4.00.

at university level, u dont just average it. u have to multiply the grade point with the credit value (weightage of the subject). a 2 credit subject will weigh less than a 6 credit subject. if u take both subjects at the same semester, u can calculate it like so:

2 credit subject scored C (2.00) and 6 credit subject scored A (4.00):

((2 x 2.00) + (6 x 4.00))/(2+6)
= 3.50cgpa.

let's reverse it. 2 credit subject scored A (4.00) and 6 credit subject scored C (2.00):

((2 x 4.00) + (6 x 2.00))/(2+6)
= 2.50cgpa.

do u see the calculation? if u score a 2 credit subject but suck at the 6 credit subject, u will only score 2.50cgpa. the heavier the subject's credit, the more it will impact ur cgpa. so in this case, what we need to find out is what each semester's weightage is. only then we can figure out the cgpa.
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post Aug 29 2014, 08:06 PM

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Hmmm i will write to MPM and try to get to the bottom of this. Who did u speak to when phoned them?
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post Aug 29 2014, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(Critical_Fallacy @ Aug 29 2014, 12:10 PM)
What drives your mind to go to such an extent? flex.gif

I want to learn the psychology of this behavior. notworthy.gif
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Err all academicians have to be curious. The thirst to know things i dont know is... Unquenchable tongue.gif.

Furthermore, im now in a good position with good standing to push things around. Ive designed whole curriculums for degree and masters. So i know whats conventional and what not. For something like this to happen, is very odd. And i just have to figure out odd things smile.gif
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post Aug 29 2014, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(Just Visiting By @ Aug 29 2014, 1
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I've personally written many complaint e-mails to MPM throughout my 1 1/2 year of studying form 6 too.

Most of the time they beat around the bush regarding certain issues, while sometimes they give only very technical answers.

It's quite frustrating lol.
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It would help if u can tell me who responded to ur emails. Pm me if u wanna keep it private.
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post Aug 30 2014, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(Just Visiting By @ Aug 29 2014, 01:06 PM)

I just e-mailed to the e-mail address posted on MPM website. There's no specific pegawai name given.
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who replied those emails?

 

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