QUOTE(weikee @ Aug 20 2014, 10:57 AM)
Doesn't that defeat the purpose of the grille? A robber could come through the escape door right?How to secure our windows?
How to secure our windows?
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Aug 20 2014, 12:37 PM
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Aug 20 2014, 02:04 PM
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I do have security system,it is provided by developer. I doesn't really want grills cause we have indoor garden which is not really indoor. So anyone here installed security tint on windows? Does it block sunshine? I don't install any tint cause I like sunshine. I'm worried,in the days there's only my 15 year old brother at home,what if something happen? At night only me,my son and him. Only 3 of us what can we do if robber enter our house? Our gate is also low,we have guards but nowadays guard can't be trusted. No one install any grill here
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Aug 20 2014, 02:09 PM
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Aug 20 2014, 02:13 PM
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Aug 20 2014, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(teacrest @ Aug 20 2014, 10:03 AM) But you're staying in a Semi-D, what's the issue with installing grill? If condo, I can understand. Buut Semi-D wor? QUOTE(Zot @ Aug 20 2014, 10:04 AM) I've known some will designated 2 door grill designs for you to choose, but this is absurd. What guarantee you get from management? This is not apartment but semi-D .. windows half of the house Nowadays, a lot of landed G&G are strata title property which need to follow house rule or management rule under DMC. In a strata title property, you need to follow the house rule or DMC agreed. So if want to install whatever like design one, then look for non-strata property. Actually the purpose of such rule on renovation issue is to make the housing area look neat and nice. Every house with same gill design matching the theme of the building, look nice and neat as compared every unit design totally different, rojak across, may not look so "high class". Management only can govern the exterior look on renovation, interiorly, there is no restriction, so if the grill install inside, generally management won't care. The mindset live in a strata property is different with non-strata property. |
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Aug 20 2014, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(heavenly91 @ Aug 20 2014, 08:07 AM) Then why bother buying something that have so much restrictions? The renovation restriction generally on exterior look. It is like saying I bought this house and it is under my name but I have no rights to do any renovations on it. What kind of Bull law is this? This is difference between strata title property vs non-strata. Strata title property, the concept is to live in a community follow a common house rule. If do not like such restriction, individual title property is the option. |
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Aug 20 2014, 02:51 PM
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Alternative, the rule can be changed via EGM/AGM of the JMB/MC.
So elect yourself become chairman and form a team of management of your own, set a resolution to change the rule of cannot install grill, every owner vote "yes", then viola, issue solved on grill installation. |
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Aug 20 2014, 03:02 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 20 2014, 02:43 PM) Nowadays, a lot of landed G&G are strata title property which need to follow house rule or management rule under DMC. thanks for the info... In a strata title property, you need to follow the house rule or DMC agreed. So if want to install whatever like design one, then look for non-strata property. Actually the purpose of such rule on renovation issue is to make the housing area look neat and nice. Every house with same gill design matching the theme of the building, look nice and neat as compared every unit design totally different, rojak across, may not look so "high class". Management only can govern the exterior look on renovation, interiorly, there is no restriction, so if the grill install inside, generally management won't care. The mindset live in a strata property is different with non-strata property. |
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Aug 20 2014, 03:05 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 20 2014, 02:43 PM) Nowadays, a lot of landed G&G are strata title property which need to follow house rule or management rule under DMC. In a strata title property, you need to follow the house rule or DMC agreed. So if want to install whatever like design one, then look for non-strata property. Actually the purpose of such rule on renovation issue is to make the housing area look neat and nice. Every house with same gill design matching the theme of the building, look nice and neat as compared every unit design totally different, rojak across, may not look so "high class". Management only can govern the exterior look on renovation, interiorly, there is no restriction, so if the grill install inside, generally management won't care. The mindset live in a strata property is different with non-strata property. QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 20 2014, 02:51 PM) Alternative, the rule can be changed via EGM/AGM of the JMB/MC. Yes the exterior is what they worried of. And about the chairman thingy,people here is not really together,most people leave their house in the morning and come back in the evening. Housewives will come out of their car talking on the phone gossiping while carrying their shopping bagsSo elect yourself become chairman and form a team of management of your own, set a resolution to change the rule of cannot install grill, every owner vote "yes", then viola, issue solved on grill installation. |
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Aug 20 2014, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE(weikee @ Aug 20 2014, 01:33 PM) Of course a grille over a door can be opened. I thought you meant the grilles over the windows can be opened in an emergency. That was what I said was my safety concern with grilles over windows. Even if there are such grilles I would be a bit uncomfortable with the idea as I wouldn't carry the grille key with me all the time. To each their own though. |
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Aug 20 2014, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 20 2014, 02:43 PM) Nowadays, a lot of landed G&G are strata title property which need to follow house rule or management rule under DMC. This is what I thought. Inside your house, no one can tell you what to do. External have to be the same. If not the neighbor has half roof while the other have balcony .... In a strata title property, you need to follow the house rule or DMC agreed. So if want to install whatever like design one, then look for non-strata property. Actually the purpose of such rule on renovation issue is to make the housing area look neat and nice. Every house with same gill design matching the theme of the building, look nice and neat as compared every unit design totally different, rojak across, may not look so "high class". Management only can govern the exterior look on renovation, interiorly, there is no restriction, so if the grill install inside, generally management won't care. The mindset live in a strata property is different with non-strata property. |
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QUOTE(THEALB10N @ Aug 20 2014, 03:35 PM) Of course a grille over a door can be opened. I thought you meant the grilles over the windows can be opened in an emergency. That was what I said was my safety concern with grilles over windows. Even if there are such grilles I would be a bit uncomfortable with the idea as I wouldn't carry the grille key with me all the time. To each their own though. Grill keys have to be located near the grill itself but of course not reachable from outside, just like emergency exit door in factory or office building |
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Aug 20 2014, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE(THEALB10N @ Aug 20 2014, 03:35 PM) Of course a grille over a door can be opened. I thought you meant the grilles over the windows can be opened in an emergency. That was what I said was my safety concern with grilles over windows. Even if there are such grilles I would be a bit uncomfortable with the idea as I wouldn't carry the grille key with me all the time. To each their own though. You don't need carry a key, usually the key are place inside the house near the windows but not accessible form out site. Usually for such door, we use a master key that can open up all the locks on the door in the grill. |
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Aug 20 2014, 05:22 PM
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Aug 21 2014, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(weikee @ Aug 20 2014, 05:20 PM) You don't need carry a key, usually the key are place inside the house near the windows but not accessible form out site. OK fair enough. Anyway I think we are a bit off topic as my original post was focusing more on alternatives to grilles, as the TS said he isn't allowed to install them.Usually for such door, we use a master key that can open up all the locks on the door in the grill. |
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QUOTE(THEALB10N @ Aug 21 2014, 12:25 PM) OK fair enough. Anyway I think we are a bit off topic as my original post was focusing more on alternatives to grilles, as the TS said he isn't allowed to install them. Many advice already written out, TS can read and select best possible solution for TS's house. |
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Aug 21 2014, 01:41 PM
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Aug 21 2014, 02:02 PM
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Made an appointment with a tint seller. Gonna install security tint
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