I stay in a Semi-D,my management doesn't allow grills for windows and doors. So any ideas?

Formally write to the management and ask,

"If there is any break in and its found that it was preventable by installing grill, is the management taking full responsibility for the lost ? Please reply in writing as it will be used in the future if such incident arises."

Make sure those @$$ reply you and raise it up during the next JMB meeting as a note in the minutes. ask the same question and get an answer.

if they have no better method, ask that this rule to be remove as its not helping the security situation.

BTW, install grill on the INSIDE ! rule only say cannot change the front ... not the internal. they are not gonna stop you from putting curtain right ?

you can always install sensor which will trigger alarm in case of break in. like the iParadox

Be smart and do it without their knowledge.
Rules are meant to be broken anyways.
And the management can do nuts about your property.

Are you sure you want to try ... don't blindly go against rule. Rule are meant to be CHANGE not broken !

A Deed of Mutual Covenant (“DMC”) is an agreement under seal. It binds on all owners of a multi-unit or multi-storey building. It basically sets out rules to regulate the rights and liabilities of co-owners and establishes management machinery for the mutually owned property.

The signatory of a DMC include the developer and the first purchaser of a unit in the development and/or the management company (if there is a management company appointed). Sometimes management company are not appointed at the time of agreement is written and developer will include a clause where they have a right to appoint a management company. Even though not all owners signed the DMC, they are bound directly by it. DMC covenants can be enforced against the successors in title of the original parties or their successors in title. DMC has a binding force over all owners, incorporated owners, manager, tenants and users of the building.

Relevant parties can take legal action against the party who violates the DMC. The remedies of violations include damages against losses, an injunction order from the court and a declaration from the court concerning the violating act. The DMC is only valid for a period of not more than 12 months. Once a joint management body (JMB) is formed within 12 months from date of vacant possession, the DMC ceased to apply. The house rules set by the JMB will become the new rules.

Then why bother buying something that have so much restrictions?
It is like saying I bought this house and it is under my name but I have no rights to do any renovations on it.
What kind of Bull law is this?

I know how you feel. I have a property (condo unit) which has several restrictions regarding renovation. The management said it's related to the strata title transfer later on. Just conform with the management for now. Once you get the strata title, then you can do whatever you want. Well, almost...

Nah my house is under renovation now with the approval from the town municipal.
I can do anything I want.
Pity for TS though.

Its the bull law that you didn't read and blindly sign ... don't buy Putrajaya please if you cannot read/understand paperwork.

I buy a condo and would like to remove the supporting wall in my unit which might one day cause a collapse ... can i actually do that ? its MY unit wah ... shouldn't i be allowed to do as i please ?

no matter how bullcrap something may sound to you ... you sign on it so honor it. if its not agreeable, try and negotiate for a change ...

Tempered glass, and some part of the house you can install a 8" windows, even is fully open is not easy to climb in, but can allow air circulation.

Nice... until neighbors complain... haha... Anyway, good for you.

And I agree. Pity for TS...

I mean I am not staying at a housing area which has Bull Law..

permimeter sensors + security windows & security door and your good to go. safer than a lousy grill anyway - they are hardly ever installed in a secure way nowadays.

Grill , guard, dog(s) are passive protection, to prevent (before happen). Alarm are more of active&reactive, when anything happen it will sound the alarm or call for help.

If a thief see two house, one with grill one without, which one do you think the thief go in first?

If house occupied, we don't need to switch on the alarm right? And some people prefer to open the windows to have better air circulation. Imagine open up the windows in living room, and we go take bath. Feel safe? If without grill, put few smaller window like 8" wide, this we can open up the windows and not easy for people to climb in.

We always want to start with prevention before correction. Is good to have all if possible. Grill not necessary if area are really safe.

This post has been edited by weikee: Aug 20 2014, 10:01 AM

But you're staying in a Semi-D, what's the issue with installing grill? If condo, I can understand. Buut Semi-D wor?

I've known some will designated 2 door grill designs for you to choose, but this is absurd. What guarantee you get from management? This is not apartment but semi-D .. windows half of the house Does management expect you close door and windows 24 hrs?

invicible grill maybe

You definitely need grilling brother

My observation from houses in malaysia is that builders usually install quite cheap windows without proper locks, only a handle which "clips" over the frame when closed. These are very easy to pull open from the outside with a crow bar or even your bare hands.

I would advise that if you have these cheap windows, change them for windows with actual locks in the frame. Better still, if you can afford it go for double glazing and/or tinting so it's difficult to bypass the lock by breaking the glass instead. And generally you don't need all the panels in the window to open. Say you have five windows all in a row, consider installing fixed panels for 2 or 3 which can't be opened.

As mentioned, alarm sensors on all the windows that can be opened are good too. You can get "glass breaker" sensors too which go off if they detect the sound of glass breaking (or some other loud bang).

I always feel a bit weary about installing grilles. What happens if there is a fire in the house and you need to escape through a window? It seems a bit risky to me.

PS I've just stumbled across a solution for people that want to have a breeze coming through their house but don't have a grille: http://www.locksonline.co.uk/acatalog/Rest...dow_Section.jpg
I wonder if we can get these locks in Malaysia? Or if we can get windows that open like this (not enough to let someone through, LHS of picture): http://pattayatradeframes.com/wp-content/u...n_windows_1.jpg

Anyway I hope this gives you some ideas as alternatives to grilles

This post has been edited by THEALB10N: Aug 20 2014, 10:49 AM

The grill have escape door in case of fire.