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timetable clashing i think is error from your faculty manager or assistant manager side

This reminds me when ICEMS was introduced last time..also so many problems

if not mistaken, a UK company..this system is used by many unis around the world too.

timetable clashing mostly happen because students are not following the structure anymore. so this is one of the reason why it is important to follow the structure, hence the policy. to make it worse, students who are not following the structure are taking different subjects. imagine that and see the multiplication.


This post has been edited by Human Nature: Sep 10 2014, 06:15 PM

the AM will usually arrange it nicely dy..then start getting request, so change here and there, finally become rojak..i used to complain too but after some time, i understand how difficult it is to do the timetable...need to take account of classroom capacity too.

another problem is when the faculty has to offer many repeat subjects, so have to pull lecturer from other subjects, so capacity also affected.

haha several generation..yes..to be fair, as long as a student follow course structure, he must be given a seat...nice slot or not, different story.

if the AM has tried and cannot get an ideal schedule (which is possible due to clashing), then the only solution is, give priority to normal structure, followed by graduating students..those who are not following structure or repeating but clashing, then the student have to make adjustment to their own structure dy..take next trimester, etc. this is the consequence which the student has to bear. this is one timetable.

as for the quality, in an ideal system, the process is fixed and all output, regardless of input, will be of high quality but let's face it, that is impossible to achieve. like you said, there are some poor lecturers, myself have encountered them too and there are some good ones as well. however, education is not just base on lecturers alone. ask your friends, how many of them actually self study with extra materials? my own observation, none. some just rely on the few pages of slides..just to pass...and has been discussed before, some just have no interest at all.

to be honest, our education at primary and secondary level is very very worrying. have you mix around with those new intake students? check out their fundamentals..or maybe, just check out the way they dress, haircut, the language that they use at FB...etc..you can guess the attitude dy

If you ask me, personally my answer is yes. if the subject is not offered next trimester, then take it when it is offered again. there is supplementary test system. meaning you are given two chances. But fortunately, i am not the president

Based on your example, if there is a specific subject that many people fail, the chance for it to be offered in the subsequent trimester is high. I am sure you are aware of this too. In your faculty, the number of repeat subjects being offered is many right? so this all consume resource and affect the normal subjects.

Unforeseen things like not feeling well, etc..there is the supp paper again. If your MC is valid, you take it as first attempt.

I don't get your point on,'why cnt students claim that they cnt be a perfect 1 for the 1st try in final too'. There is the supp system right?

Yes, students can expect everything to be all A+ but are the students willing to pay a higher fee?

On why MMU fail to attract talent and good students, that is a good question. There are some factors that I have come to observe:

First, there are more unis nowadays compared to 5 years ago, so the talent pool gets distributed. There are good students, but the number is not as many as 5 years back. At the same time, scholarships..wealthy families..will always make overseas their top choice.

Second, this may be based on personal observation but all my relatives (the good ones) are going for form 6 and consequently IPTA nowadays...some due to medic course, some due to cost factor. Could this be a trend?

Third, bad publicity. I am not only referring to the last month protest but if you notice, MMU suffer from two things. The grads and students will never fail to mention that MMU is a money making university..and that MMU programs are difficult. This will make potential students to shun away (general, not top students only). At the end of the day, the students themselves will suffer (employer point of view) because of this negative publicity.

Fourth, other IPTS unis are catching in research work. MMU used to be competing with the IPTA on the publications and grants. Nowadays, other unis are challenging as well. Research work is one of the tool to attract talents. Ask yourself why this happen? Is it because all the repeat subjects every trimester, etc are taking away the lecturers' research time?

This post has been edited by Human Nature: Sep 10 2014, 08:36 PM

how to solve? hehe, no idea...but from mmu point of view, the new policy is one of the way to reduce it i guess

seriously, if you are not feeling well..get an MC from the panel..one of the reason why students tend to sit the paper even he is sick, is because of another favorite MMU rumor, that supp paper gonna be tougher

minimum marks for supp paper is 40 only ler..if you cannot get 40, then seriously, better study the whole course again to improve on knowledge and skill.

aiyo, that server issue you bring up to management la..i also face palm see this camsys

funny that you bring up on the advertisement board...one of the many thing about MMU is, the money spent on marketing and advert has been very low all this while compare with other IPTS. In fact, you can hardly find MMU advert all these while until recently. Bear in mind, as in all organization, there will be budget allocation for A, B and C.

as already shown by the slides, facilities improvement works are going on. You cannot expect things to improve in a sudden. The procurement, tender process etc already consume months ler.

you are wrong there. students pay to the university for education and the university pay the lecturers for their services. The three main items are teaching, research and admin works. we are talking about students who fail and retake subjects, which consume extra resources.

on the salary from tuition fee, my statement above is applicable

This post has been edited by Human Nature: Sep 10 2014, 09:20 PM

MMU also the same but not so critical. research and publication are given a lot of focus too but lecturers wont sacrifice teaching because both are equal baskets.

aiyo, you need to read the exam rules and regulation. if you have a valid mc and approved by the board of examiners, you will be granted to sit for supp as 1st attempt..meaning just like normal paper..can even get A+

luckily i no need to log in to anything camsys

then have to eat chicken essence, ginseng, power root, jamu, etc to make sure fit and healthy during exam week

har? 40% consider low cut off point dy..

haha students..kena bar blame lecturers cost of painting high, blame account lecturers, camsys problem blame IT lecturers

i dont deny that ghauth time...mmu golden years..after that...you know, i know..

the advert and marketing, i see it just as a normal marketing tool la..even manchester united so famous, still spend millions on advert..normal..on why now only wanna advert? maybe got a new dynamic marketing team.

some lecturers who went overboard, just complain lor...cannot lump all lecturers into one just because of some negative ones.

You make sure you get a genuine MC from a valid panel..read the regulations properly coz got certain time and duration one..you skipped, then only you get MC..not so convincing mah.

haha need to ask for code..like top secret

how do you relate that the quality has decrease due to lack of good student? please elaborate.

the quality of the programs, if you ask me, have actually increases because we have to follow these tight requirement from the various accreditation bodies.

and if you are talking about the quality of the graduates, those good ones should be able to grad with no problems..quite famous sayings..mmu easy to enter but hard to go out


i don't recall any of us here mention that the lecturers lose interest? wah, dont put words into our mouth...seditious ler again, elaborate on what makes you say that

employ me as lawyer, sure can win the case one

actually will fed up for a while..and then start introducing new stuffs like open book, different assignment topic, plagiarism checker, etc..

wah, i want!


don't get me start on FoL..you should know the lenglui SRC member from FoL right?

This post has been edited by Human Nature: Sep 10 2014, 10:14 PM

no apology needed, this is an open forum

i am sure the lecturers will be more than happy to guide the students..you can see from the posts here, most agree that the lecturers are helpful...but as in everywhere, there will be some bad apples too...and these bad apples, i encourage students to lodge complaints as we need to weed them out.

the SRC committee member

wah, you don't update with SRC news ar after you leave MMU...SRC ler..hah don't want name her la let you curious and investigate abit

your batch all guys?

This post has been edited by Human Nature: Sep 10 2014, 10:25 PM

yeah, should be that one..invite her to lowyat..she can become SRC rep here..can help to reply to students' complaints..sue no problem, i can summon many other law students here to counter

10 consider many dy for ME programs, am i right
later i go post at MMU crushes
aiya..dont want him la..need people with expertise in law
better ask your lecturer why he gave that advice..maybe on certain circumstances only?

This post has been edited by Human Nature: Sep 10 2014, 10:35 PM