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SUSadvocado
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Aug 12 2014, 05:41 PM, updated 12y ago
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I mean it's convenient to use, but once credit runs low, reloading is such a hassle, last time can reload at LRT Stations, then they replace with ATM machine which eated my rm20 and never gave back, now they all put T&C reload not available.
Even highway toll station most places already no reload since 2-3 years ago, i don't know Sungei Besi can still reload or not, or have to go inside office to reload.
Not sure RapidKL bus can reload or not, feels like the whole system down, or they purposely do it in favour of Rapidpass card?
I hear petrol station can reload, but not sure how much they charge the fees. Use easy reload difficult, 1st time i hear company so stupid discourage people to top-up funds.
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iwan_smtk
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Aug 12 2014, 05:42 PM
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go reload at 7eleven
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Boy96
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Aug 12 2014, 05:43 PM
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QUOTE(iwan_smtk @ Aug 12 2014, 05:42 PM) My nearby 7 eleven also cant reload.. They say system down/they havent topup their side
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shirley_andy
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Aug 12 2014, 05:43 PM
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reload at watson without RM0.50 charge.
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tamiyasaka12
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Aug 12 2014, 05:43 PM
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7e got maaaaa why la u so complicated weyyy
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SUS2feidei
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Aug 12 2014, 05:43 PM
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usually petronas ada...no service charge one
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DonDropUrSoap
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Aug 12 2014, 05:44 PM
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dulu rapid bus got machine to reload, den they put notice that the machine under maintainance... ltr, they remove the machine
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SUSthis issit!
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Aug 12 2014, 05:44 PM
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xing card
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ijat91
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Aug 12 2014, 05:44 PM
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Auto reload card is the best option
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qreemall
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Aug 12 2014, 05:45 PM
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find those petrol station with "Touch N Go Spot" signboard. no charge.
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cedyy
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Aug 12 2014, 05:45 PM
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QUOTE(2feidei @ Aug 12 2014, 05:43 PM) usually petronas ada...no service charge one petronas got 50 sen charge loh This post has been edited by cedyy: Aug 12 2014, 05:45 PM
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SourLemons
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Aug 12 2014, 05:46 PM
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petrol station dont charge any service charge now
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iwan_smtk
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Aug 12 2014, 05:46 PM
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glam85
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Aug 12 2014, 05:46 PM
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i reload it at PHB petrol station, charge 50 cent for it sometimes i reload it using ATM, some ATM can do so but i do wonder why those shopping mall parking that got TNG service need extra charge 10% for using it.
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XPS1530
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Aug 12 2014, 05:47 PM
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cimb atm....free topup charge
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Saitama
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Aug 12 2014, 05:47 PM
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machine ATM CIMB ada. guna jgn tak guna.
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varialmctwist
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Aug 12 2014, 05:47 PM
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semua nak ikut senang kau je...tampar kang...
bila ada orang nak buat...tanak kene charge...
apa lg lu mau?
This post has been edited by varialmctwist: Aug 12 2014, 05:48 PM
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SUS2feidei
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Aug 12 2014, 05:48 PM
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QUOTE(cedyy @ Aug 12 2014, 05:45 PM) petronas got 50 sen charge loh soree......biasa gua pigi tarak charged punya..... Watson pun tarak charge
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cfa28
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Aug 12 2014, 05:48 PM
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Some KK Mart can reload
Petronas after Sg Besi Tol to KL - no charge for reload
Shell Station after Sg Besi Tol to Kajang - no charge for reload
Petronas Station before Serdang Exit - no charge for reload
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DarkEmotion88
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Aug 12 2014, 05:48 PM
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i topup at shell still eat me rm0.50
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azbro
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Aug 12 2014, 05:48 PM
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First World Problem...wanna reload card also Problem
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netmatrix
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Aug 12 2014, 05:49 PM
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Most petrol stations can reload. Caltex no more 50 cent charge anymore. All Watsons can reload TnG. All LRT stations can reload TnG at counter. 7 Eleven also can already. Maybank ATM also can, but pay 50 cent.
Basically every shopping ctr that has Watson sure can reload. Any kampung that have 7E can reload. Most petrol stations can reload. If stay in Klng Valley so much place to reload. TS lazy and want the places to be along his way only. How i know? Because last time i only used to reload at LDP because on the way. That time no 7E, no Watsons. And the Caltex at the tol charge 50 cent.
Now most places free. Last month Watson reload RM100 free RM5 only with Watson TnG card. This month dunno still got or not. Other card cannot get RM5 back free.
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Anonymous34
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Aug 12 2014, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE(this issit! @ Aug 12 2014, 05:44 PM)
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ichi_24
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Aug 12 2014, 05:49 PM
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Kesian TS masih dalam tempurung kelapa
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anakkk
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Aug 12 2014, 05:50 PM
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gave up on other ways, i only top up at petrol station nowadays.
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ConstantLove
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Aug 12 2014, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE(advocado @ Aug 12 2014, 05:41 PM) I mean it's convenient to use, but once credit runs low, reloading is such a hassle, last time can reload at LRT Stations, then they replace with ATM machine which eated my rm20 and never gave back, now they all put T&C reload not available. Even highway toll station most places already no reload since 2-3 years ago, i don't know Sungei Besi can still reload or not, or have to go inside office to reload. Not sure RapidKL bus can reload or not, feels like the whole system down, or they purposely do it in favour of Rapidpass card? I hear petrol station can reload, but not sure how much they charge the fees. Use easy reload difficult, 1st time i hear company so stupid discourage people to top-up funds. petrol station RM0.50 for reload.. i always reload there, when pump petrol then reload lo
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wizard83
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Aug 12 2014, 05:50 PM
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can reload at LRT station counter ma... no additional charge also.
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GHBZDK
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Aug 12 2014, 05:51 PM
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you can top up at the shell petrol station counter with no additional charges. but i top up in shell tapah, not sure if others are doing the same.
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korgiforlite
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Aug 12 2014, 05:51 PM
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the worst thing is take bus... wait the beep sound is like hell
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ichi_24
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Aug 12 2014, 05:52 PM
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QUOTE(azbro @ Aug 12 2014, 05:48 PM) First World Problem...wanna reload card also Problem More like 3rd world problem OP know where to reload but buat bodoh don't know where to reload
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SamsengFan
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Aug 12 2014, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE(varialmctwist @ Aug 12 2014, 05:47 PM) semua nak ikut senang kau je...tampar kang... bila ada orang nak buat...tanak kene charge... apa lg lu mau? Kesian tak faham apa maksud prepaid. prepaid means pra bayar . They should encourage it. Less crowded. Instant big amount of money. Imagine your customer gives you rm100 and let you deduct rm1.50 everyday. versus paying rm1.50 everyday. You can even earn interest with rm100 from customer. tu la. No business sense. Buat apa apa pun rugi.
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DarkNite
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Aug 12 2014, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(cedyy @ Aug 12 2014, 05:45 PM) petronas got 50 sen charge loh QUOTE(SourLemons @ Aug 12 2014, 05:46 PM) petrol station dont charge any service charge now Some do charge 50sen other dun. Mostly they ones dun are along the Toll highways. Usually you will know cos they advertised "No Charge" on their banners as you approach the petrol station.
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Boy96
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Aug 12 2014, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Aug 12 2014, 05:49 PM) Most petrol stations can reload. Caltex no more 50 cent charge anymore. All Watsons can reload TnG. All LRT stations can reload TnG at counter. 7 Eleven also can already. Maybank ATM also can, but pay 50 cent. Basically every shopping ctr that has Watson sure can reload. Any kampung that have 7E can reload. Most petrol stations can reload. If stay in Klng Valley so much place to reload. TS lazy and want the places to be along his way only. How i know? Because last time i only used to reload at LDP because on the way. That time no 7E, no Watsons. And the Caltex at the tol charge 50 cent. Now most places free. Last month Watson reload RM100 free RM5 only with Watson TnG card. This month dunno still got or not. Other card cannot get RM5 back free. I duno why my area all convenience store, petrol station all say their topup machine rosak.. Waste my time only stopping 1 by 1 shop.. All kata rosak Even the nearest BHP cannot swipe card and get points.. They say system down and no effort to restore it This post has been edited by Boy96: Aug 12 2014, 05:55 PM
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zen_analyst
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Aug 12 2014, 05:54 PM
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petronas, 7e, maybank, cimb all can reload.
how much more convenient u wan?
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wordtalks
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Aug 12 2014, 05:54 PM
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advocado If you want to reload at LRT/KTM station, do it at the counter, the do it FOC, so wont eat your money/credit. Got receipt for you also, in case you want to complain.
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natamhanjing
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Aug 12 2014, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(this issit! @ Aug 12 2014, 05:44 PM)  this is gooding on highway toll, auto reload.  But no auto reload in on TnG parking. Dumbfounded once when want to exit KLIA parking. This post has been edited by natamhanjing: Aug 12 2014, 05:55 PM
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hcolin
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Aug 12 2014, 05:55 PM
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Some ATM can reload too and Batu Tiga Toll got REload lane.
I normally do at the Hub at Bangsar South. You can also do it at KL Sentral TnG Hub near the Coffee Bean there
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alien3d
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Aug 12 2014, 05:55 PM
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Not most adapt issue.50 cents issue. Some parking must have 10 ringgit balance issue
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Boy96
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Aug 12 2014, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE(natamhanjing @ Aug 12 2014, 05:54 PM)  this is gooding on highway toll, auto reload.  But no auto reload in on TnG parking. Dumbfounded once when want to exit KLIA parking. Usually once its at RM50 it will auto reload, what happened at KLIA parking?
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SUSthis issit!
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Aug 12 2014, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE(natamhanjing @ Aug 12 2014, 05:54 PM)  this is gooding on highway toll, auto reload.  But no auto reload in on TnG parking. Dumbfounded once when want to exit KLIA parking. i dont use tng for parking. extra 10 % iirc.
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Uzumaki NaruTo
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Aug 12 2014, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE(SourLemons @ Aug 12 2014, 05:46 PM) petrol station dont charge any service charge now selected petrol station. not all charge. Petronas layby didt not charge but Petronas Bukit Jelutong will chrage.
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THEALB10N
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Aug 12 2014, 05:57 PM
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Can we top up online?
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SUSPepper
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Aug 12 2014, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE(advocado @ Aug 12 2014, 05:41 PM) I mean it's convenient to use, but once credit runs low, reloading is such a hassle, last time can reload at LRT Stations, then they replace with ATM machine which eated my rm20 and never gave back, now they all put T&C reload not available. Even highway toll station most places already no reload since 2-3 years ago, i don't know Sungei Besi can still reload or not, or have to go inside office to reload. Not sure RapidKL bus can reload or not, feels like the whole system down, or they purposely do it in favour of Rapidpass card? I hear petrol station can reload, but not sure how much they charge the fees. Use easy reload difficult, 1st time i hear company so stupid discourage people to top-up funds. petrol station at most charge 50 cent, at least charge nothing.
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crystalfenix
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Aug 12 2014, 05:57 PM
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Dont use TOuch And go card la dei. Use the normal lanes. Hope more ppl follow u la.
Alot jokers clogging up the smart tag and tng lanes at tolls.
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s7ran9er
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Aug 12 2014, 05:58 PM
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Always budget a RM50 to topup the TnG, stop reloading once it hits RM200 or RM150.
You won't have to worry about running low on credit.
TnG should make more exposure and push campaigns so that people actually pay attention.
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shin_daria
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Aug 12 2014, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(qreemall @ Aug 12 2014, 05:45 PM) find those petrol station with "Touch N Go Spot" signboard. no charge. QUOTE(Saitama @ Aug 12 2014, 05:47 PM) machine ATM CIMB ada. guna jgn tak guna. Maybank pun ada. some tesco/giant also got. seriously so many places to topup now. biasalah now and then got server prob.
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party
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Aug 12 2014, 06:00 PM
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Open one reload station next to your room okay?
Lazy said lah...Almost all lrt stations can reload. Or you faceproblem. System down tat time..hahaha
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briantwj
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Aug 12 2014, 06:00 PM
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i always top up at petrol station. Coz u sure fill petrol for ur car wan right. Just go counter and ask. Got reload service anot. Usually got. Mostly I reload in Petronas and Petron. They charge 50 cent ni.
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thespell
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Aug 12 2014, 06:02 PM
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Go top up at Watson, free of charge
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SUSGion
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Aug 12 2014, 06:05 PM
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QUOTE(briantwj @ Aug 12 2014, 06:00 PM) i always top up at petrol station. Coz u sure fill petrol for ur car wan right. Just go counter and ask. Got reload service anot. Usually got. Mostly I reload in Petronas and Petron. They charge 50 cent ni. CIMB atm machine dont charge 0.50 is free
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mancode1009
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Aug 12 2014, 06:06 PM
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TnGo at Sg Buloh drive through
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knskns
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Aug 12 2014, 06:07 PM
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Any place can use credit card to topup TNG? Most of them only accept cash.
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briantwj
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Aug 12 2014, 06:07 PM
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QUOTE(Gion @ Aug 12 2014, 06:05 PM) CIMB atm machine dont charge 0.50 is free  o.0 didn't noe that. Sumore I have a CIMB account. lelelel
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KenAragorn
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Aug 12 2014, 06:07 PM
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just to echo some of the forumers mentioned earlier...some* petrol kiosk they charge 0.50 cent and some they dont charge. Typically those without charge will have "Touch 'n Go Spot" sign.
My advice: ask and check around the place that nearby your work/study/stay location.
Cheers.
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SUSfalzehope
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Aug 12 2014, 06:09 PM
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so TNG is not convenient because it's hard to reload?
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SUSGion
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Aug 12 2014, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE(briantwj @ Aug 12 2014, 06:07 PM) o.0 didn't noe that. Sumore I have a CIMB account. lelelel u will see a tag on ATM machine
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SUStatabun
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Aug 12 2014, 06:10 PM
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i love to reply with the quote left below that makes me somewhat special and different that normal forumers QUOTE(advocado @ Aug 12 2014, 06:41 PM) I mean it's convenient to use, but once credit runs low, reloading is such a hassle, last time can reload at LRT Stations, then they replace with ATM machine which eated my rm20 and never gave back, now they all put T&C reload not available. Even highway toll station most places already no reload since 2-3 years ago, i don't know Sungei Besi can still reload or not, or have to go inside office to reload. Not sure RapidKL bus can reload or not, feels like the whole system down, or they purposely do it in favour of Rapidpass card? I hear petrol station can reload, but not sure how much they charge the fees. Use easy reload difficult, 1st time i hear company so stupid discourage people to top-up funds.
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SUSGion
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Aug 12 2014, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE(knskns @ Aug 12 2014, 06:07 PM) Any place can use credit card to topup TNG? Most of them only accept cash.  go to their main PLUS station, can be found at subang jaya PLUS highway if u want to use CC over there.
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Sai Lin Nia
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Aug 12 2014, 06:14 PM
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BY LEONG SHEN-LI
PETALING JAYA: The Government spent RM10mil to set up electronic fare-card readers at KTM Komuter, monorail and Express Rail Link stations to allow commuters to use Touch 'n Go fare-cards on all systems. This was to make public transport in the Klang Valley more efficient.
But one-and-a-half years later, the fare-card readers remain idle because the rail operators and Rangkaian Segar Sdn Bhd, which runs the Touch 'n Go system, are still wrangling over the commission rate.
Sources said Rangkaian Segar wants 2.5%, while the rail operators were prepared to pay less than 2%.
This disagreement, they added, had resulted in the operators holding back implementation of the system.
“The system is ready. All that is needed is for the operators to agree and the cards can be accepted immediately,” the sources said.
However, there are indications that KTM Komuter is likely to adopt the system in July although KTM Bhd is still unhappy with the commission issue and will continue to push for a lower rate.
Under the common ticketing system, all public transport systems in the Klang Valley are to accept Touch 'n Go cards, allowing commuters to hop from one system to another without needing to buy new tickets.
Currently, KTM Komuter, KL Monorail, KLIA Ekspres and KLIA Transit, which carry a total of about 150,000 passengers a day, do not accept the cards, but the two light rail transit systems – Putraline and Starline – do.
Public transport operators have been reluctant to accept Rangkaian Segar's rate, saying the high commission will eat into their already narrow profit margins.
Rangkaian Segar, they argue, should recognise that public transport operators are not profit-oriented, unlike operators of privatised expressways, and should adjust the commission rate accordingly.
“However, Rangkaian Segar looks unlikely to budge on this matter,” a source said.
According to the sources, the operators have also appealed to the Government to step in but it has been reluctant to intervene directly because commissions are deemed “a commercial matter”.
Nevertheless, the Transport Ministry has organised several meetings between the different parties since the issue surfaced.
The sources said a breakthrough with KTM was finally reached last week.
But KTM was still unhappy with the commission issue and would continue to push for it to be reduced, they said.
Similar breakthroughs were not expected in negotiations with KL Infrastructure Group Bhd, the monorail's operator, and Express Rail Link, which operates the KLIA Ekspres and KLIA Transit.
“The two seem adamant about standing firm,” said a source.
When contacted, KTM Bhd managing director Datuk Mohd Salleh Abdullah declined to comment on the commission issue, but confirmed that KTM was looking at implementing the Touch 'n Go system in July.
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briantwj
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Aug 12 2014, 06:15 PM
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Try touching TnGo at the back of ur phone. U'll hear a weird voice from ur phone. If ur phone got NFC and it's turn on la. Btw, I hope Touch and Go can implement it's technology on our smartphone as an app. Create an app or sumthin. Then we can juz use our phone as Touch and Go. Since nowadays most of the smartphones have NFC dy, we dy have the hardware aka TnGo's card aka NFC. Why not create an android app for it.  Iinm, touch and go no app yet right? In the app itself can check how much balance u have left in ur account. Make it account based instead of card based. Then top up like how a normal prepaid card top up. Buy prepaid card, scratch it, and key in in the TnGo app to top up ur account's moneh. This post has been edited by briantwj: Aug 12 2014, 06:18 PM
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orangutan
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Aug 12 2014, 06:22 PM
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Recently I see some toll can reload now. I think they are starting this service again since they stated in newspaper that they are going to go cashless in future.
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Learjet35
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Aug 12 2014, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE(this issit! @ Aug 12 2014, 05:44 PM)
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natamhanjing
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Aug 12 2014, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Aug 12 2014, 05:56 PM) Usually once its at RM50 it will auto reload, what happened at KLIA parking? Mine CIMB Zing, below 50 should reload 100. Parking usually dont have auto reload function. Zing card also cant manual reload at atm. Park for 3 days = around RM140 + the 10% TNG charge, dah sangkut xleh keluar. QUOTE(this issit! @ Aug 12 2014, 05:56 PM) i dont use tng for parking. extra 10 % iirc. yalor, learnt my lesson. Lucky they change my parking with coin one. But have to wait long time for the parking guy
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hcleong
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Aug 12 2014, 06:32 PM
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Should allowed others card, Touch & Go in monopoly it now and I don't know why it was allowed. In SG, the similiar card need to paid also, but the card itself got value, and you can used over the stored value a bit, when the inside the card have insufficient fund. While in Malaysia, the stupid card cost RM10 and only valid for 10 years, some more if you don't use the card for 1 year, the remaining value in it will be forfeit, wtf....
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tesh94
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Aug 12 2014, 06:33 PM
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petrol station cn reload, ATM cn reload manyak tempat buli u said not convenient when pump petrol reload la. haish fyi petrol station charge RM0.50 per reload.
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lagenda
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Aug 12 2014, 06:38 PM
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i always top up rm100
no need bother bout 50cent
u guys really cheapskate
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idoblu
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Aug 12 2014, 06:41 PM
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get MBB Zing card lo
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samftrmd
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Aug 12 2014, 06:44 PM
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Lrt cannot reload meh? I always reload at lrt stations.
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SUSadvocado
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Aug 12 2014, 06:46 PM
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Drive all the way to petrol station top-up so i can use it on public transport. lol. QUOTE(cfa28 @ Aug 12 2014, 05:48 PM) Some KK Mart can reload Petronas after Sg Besi Tol to KL - no charge for reload Shell Station after Sg Besi Tol to Kajang - no charge for reload Petronas Station before Serdang Exit - no charge for reload
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SUSadvocado
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Aug 12 2014, 06:49 PM
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can someone post the T&C reload not available notice board at all LRT stations? i tried KLCC, Ampang Park, KL Sentral Monorail, BJT Monorail all put the same notice board. QUOTE(wordtalks @ Aug 12 2014, 05:54 PM) advocado If you want to reload at LRT/KTM station, do it at the counter, the do it FOC, so wont eat your money/credit. Got receipt for you also, in case you want to complain.
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SUSadvocado
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Aug 12 2014, 06:55 PM
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i tell u a last time morning go take monorail, card has like rm3, machine don't let me tru coz say insufficient fund. had to go & que to top up. once i lost rm20 to the automatic reload machine coz it will expire after like 10secs i scan scan scan kenot scan, report to T&G, never got refund. BTW how much the T&C card itself worth? Xing card can use like Smartag? QUOTE(hcleong @ Aug 12 2014, 06:32 PM) Should allowed others card, Touch & Go in monopoly it now and I don't know why it was allowed. In SG, the similiar card need to paid also, but the card itself got value, and you can used over the stored value a bit, when the inside the card have insufficient fund. While in Malaysia, the stupid card cost RM10 and only valid for 10 years, some more if you don't use the card for 1 year, the remaining value in it will be forfeit, wtf....
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SUSadvocado
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Aug 12 2014, 06:56 PM
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what is auto reload? QUOTE(Mussolini @ Aug 12 2014, 06:50 PM) Use Xing auto reload card la 
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Aug 12 2014, 07:12 PM
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QUOTE(hcleong @ Aug 12 2014, 06:32 PM) ... some more if you don't use the card for 1 year, the remaining value in it will be forfeit, wtf....  So that's how I lost my $50++ balance in my TnG card that I didn't use for more than a year! I remember I reload but didn't use , then the operator says no more money when I want to use it.
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SUSadvocado
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Aug 12 2014, 07:13 PM
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no way i'm linking anything to my bank account. QUOTE(Mussolini @ Aug 12 2014, 07:07 PM) Sorry, its the Zing TnG card. Means the TnG card is linked to your bank account. When money in card drops below a certain amount, then it'll auto upload
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Aug 12 2014, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE(advocado @ Aug 12 2014, 06:49 PM) can someone post the T&C reload not available notice board at all LRT stations? i tried KLCC, Ampang Park, KL Sentral Monorail, BJT Monorail all put the same notice board. bro, what you talking? T&G reload can be done at LRT counter. Did you top up at machine?? Please dont use machine, those mostly for rapid card only...
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SUSadvocado
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Aug 12 2014, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE(wordtalks @ Aug 12 2014, 07:14 PM) bro, what you talking? T&G reload can be done at LRT counter. Did you top up at machine?? Please dont use machine, those mostly for rapid card only... notice board T&C reload not available.
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torreto
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Aug 12 2014, 07:17 PM
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zing card is the most convenient. even nicer when it's linked to my daddy account. This post has been edited by torreto: Aug 12 2014, 07:18 PM
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SUSadvocado
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Aug 12 2014, 07:20 PM
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zing card got smarttag like function? can use on what? QUOTE(torreto @ Aug 12 2014, 07:17 PM) zing card is the most convenient. even nicer when it's linked to my daddy account. 
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wordtalks
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Aug 12 2014, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE(advocado @ Aug 12 2014, 07:15 PM) notice board T&C reload not available. How is that possible? I just did it like last week at LRT... What about KTM station? But be careful as most KTM station's T&G reload will be offline(system down). Else maybe you can try KL sentral there, the T&G hub, can make T&G with picture also. But iinm, it close at 5pm, so better go early. Else you will have to go 7-11, petrol station, toll plaza which some might include service charge.
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Aug 12 2014, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE(advocado @ Aug 12 2014, 07:20 PM) zing card got smarttag like function? can use on what? Means his daddys bank account la, auto topup his tng card
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SUSadvocado
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Aug 12 2014, 07:36 PM
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i'm asking what can you use with Xing card and does it have smartag like function? QUOTE(Boy96 @ Aug 12 2014, 07:29 PM) Means his daddys bank account la, auto topup his tng card
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Aug 12 2014, 07:38 PM
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this zing card seems nice.
means each time my value in card falls below RM50, i have to go to a touchngo toll lane and tap it to activate the auto-reload?
Any catch regarding this card?
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Aug 12 2014, 07:38 PM
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got ez way to topap..when the credit lower than RM50 auto topap but using credit card i think
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natamhanjing
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Aug 12 2014, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE(advocado @ Aug 12 2014, 07:36 PM) i'm asking what can you use with Xing card and does it have smartag like function? can put in smart tag device one. can use on smart tag lane @ toll gate
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SUSadvocado
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Aug 12 2014, 07:46 PM
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LRT Monorail Rapidkl bus & parking? If manual reload anywhere with T&C reload can also reload? QUOTE(natamhanjing @ Aug 12 2014, 07:44 PM) can put in smart tag device one. can use on smart tag lane @ toll gate This post has been edited by advocado: Aug 12 2014, 07:47 PM
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Aug 12 2014, 07:47 PM
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my card once dropped below 50 will auto reload 100
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Aug 12 2014, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE(advocado @ Aug 12 2014, 07:46 PM) LRT Monorail Rapidkl bus & parking? If manual reload anywhere with T&C reload can also reload? can use at any TnG device. cant manual reload one. auto reload only at Highway. sos: http://www.touchngo.com.my/CMS/Personal/Pr.../Zing-Card-FAQ/This post has been edited by natamhanjing: Aug 12 2014, 07:50 PM
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lyrilmaki
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Aug 12 2014, 07:54 PM
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my TnG link wif my atm card.. Auto reload once run low..
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Johannlo
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Aug 12 2014, 07:55 PM
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QUOTE(torreto @ Aug 12 2014, 07:17 PM) zing card is the most convenient. even nicer when it's linked to my daddy account.  so each time the card value falls below 50 bucks, after auto-reload your new balance will be 150 bucks?
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Hertz96
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Aug 12 2014, 08:03 PM
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Petronas can. No service charge somemore. Buat kecoh apa hal?
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kopiPeng
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Aug 12 2014, 08:09 PM
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QUOTE(shirley_andy @ Aug 12 2014, 05:43 PM) reload at watson without RM0.50 charge. eh?? all watson meh?? this is new to me..
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cybpsych
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Aug 12 2014, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE(advocado @ Aug 12 2014, 05:41 PM) I mean it's convenient to use, but once credit runs low, reloading is such a hassle, last time can reload at LRT Stations, then they replace with ATM machine which eated my rm20 and never gave back, now they all put T&C reload not available. Even highway toll station most places already no reload since 2-3 years ago, i don't know Sungei Besi can still reload or not, or have to go inside office to reload. Not sure RapidKL bus can reload or not, feels like the whole system down, or they purposely do it in favour of Rapidpass card? I hear petrol station can reload, but not sure how much they charge the fees. Use easy reload difficult, 1st time i hear company so stupid discourage people to top-up funds. refer this topic for TnG reload using credit cards whichever have cashback rewards https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3304889FYI knsknsThis post has been edited by cybpsych: Aug 12 2014, 08:30 PM
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skycrew
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Aug 12 2014, 08:23 PM
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reload online
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elmond
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Aug 12 2014, 08:24 PM
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TNG spot, no charge, fuyoh. check their website
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cybpsych
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Aug 12 2014, 08:24 PM
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QUOTE(glam85 @ Aug 12 2014, 05:46 PM) i reload it at PHB petrol station, charge 50 cent for it sometimes i reload it using ATM, some ATM can do so but i do wonder why those shopping mall parking that got TNG service need extra charge 10% for using it. yah, outright robbery using tng for parking. so far, 2 malls wihtout extra charges: The Mines and Alamanda
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Aug 12 2014, 08:26 PM
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sekarang mana2 boleh topup TnG la sohai...kau je yang malas macam taik. last time lrt boleh reload? now still boleh. 7e, petrol station boleh je. kau je yang suka buat benda jadi susah. dah susah nak komplen salahkan orang lain. typical perangai mcm lahanat.
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SUSGlockers
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Aug 12 2014, 08:28 PM
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Ada lagi orang nak reload manual eh...aduyai
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cybpsych
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Aug 12 2014, 08:31 PM
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QUOTE(Glockers @ Aug 12 2014, 08:28 PM) Ada lagi orang nak reload manual eh...aduyai manual reload with credit card is the best. got cashback sommore. previously Watson's 5% rebate (RM100 credit, pay RM95 only). promo ended in May 2014.
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kepong87
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Aug 12 2014, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE(iwan_smtk @ Aug 12 2014, 05:46 PM) this one lagi mahal, i'm using it now, every automatic topup cost you rm2
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regiuseven
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Aug 12 2014, 09:08 PM
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alah, apa mahal sangat pun ada extra charge. kiasu lah korang
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nabielz
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Aug 12 2014, 09:17 PM
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dey ATM machine kan ada.boleh topup maa kenapa mesti jadi bodoh?
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AngAng26
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Aug 12 2014, 09:18 PM
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apply credit card yang ada auto reload la
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chew3344
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Aug 12 2014, 09:18 PM
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here comes advocado again with complain. dah la ko pandai sangat ko buat la sistem baru
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dadurtyz
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Aug 12 2014, 09:45 PM
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Never top up, in use tng zing card that integrated with my credit card
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azxel
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Aug 12 2014, 09:55 PM
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Using. HLB version, auto reload RM100 each time drop below RM50.
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noddless
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Aug 12 2014, 09:56 PM
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apply lar zing card
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SUSeksk
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Aug 12 2014, 09:57 PM
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lagi susah if you wanna top up guna cc..
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SUSapj8188
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Aug 12 2014, 09:59 PM
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Biasalah sini msia. Ada idea bagus tapi execution/enforcement cam tahi tak tau maintenance.
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Powet
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Aug 12 2014, 10:02 PM
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bhp topup. 50 sen charge
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Blackops981
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Aug 12 2014, 10:08 PM
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7e, petrol station, atm machines
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SUSVelocity
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Aug 12 2014, 10:18 PM
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Touch and go it's not made to make it convenient but it's created to show government putting effort and need high maintaince to justify their expenses.
If not they will do like singapore ERP. Everyone IC touch and go but most lane still need people and toll booth
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SUSVelocity
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Aug 12 2014, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(Powet @ Aug 12 2014, 10:02 PM) Awesome planning create a new system then charge people to reload. If not toll won't need pay 10 years
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wyh
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Aug 13 2014, 02:47 AM
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TnGo mmg kacau. selalu mau 0.50 cent...
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alien3d
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Aug 13 2014, 02:51 AM
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QUOTE(Velocity @ Aug 12 2014, 10:18 PM) Touch and go it's not made to make it convenient but it's created to show government putting effort and need high maintaince to justify their expenses. If not they will do like singapore ERP. Everyone IC touch and go but most lane still need people and toll booth I used Ic touch and go.
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aPiT_OxyMoxy
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Aug 13 2014, 03:20 AM
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Nowadays ayam topup RM200 per month via atm no issue so far
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alwinnng
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Aug 13 2014, 03:25 AM
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plus semua petrol kiosk reload free
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replymela
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Aug 13 2014, 04:06 AM
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the dumbest thing about touch and go is the expiry. wtf man, I have an old card which cannot be used. have to buy new, after that don't use for 1 year card invalid  convenience my arse
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DValentine
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Aug 13 2014, 06:00 AM
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QUOTE(advocado @ Aug 12 2014, 07:46 PM) LRT Monorail Rapidkl bus & parking? If manual reload anywhere with T&C reload can also reload? monorail counter boikot TnG wan no belip go see, they oledi tampal kertas besar2 stated: no TnG reload, ini semua permainan rapidKL mau semua orang beli dia punya rapidKL card
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shadow_walker
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Aug 13 2014, 10:14 AM
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farkkk...charge 50 sen oso bising..tunasing knn...i thot ktards all 20k...
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hardcoreangel
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Aug 13 2014, 10:23 AM
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where the fck did you live ? i use touch n go for 3 years and never have reloading issue.
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vin_ann
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Aug 13 2014, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(advocado @ Aug 12 2014, 05:41 PM) I mean it's convenient to use, but once credit runs low, reloading is such a hassle, last time can reload at LRT Stations, then they replace with ATM machine which eated my rm20 and never gave back, now they all put T&C reload not available. Even highway toll station most places already no reload since 2-3 years ago, i don't know Sungei Besi can still reload or not, or have to go inside office to reload. Not sure RapidKL bus can reload or not, feels like the whole system down, or they purposely do it in favour of Rapidpass card? I hear petrol station can reload, but not sure how much they charge the fees. Use easy reload difficult, 1st time i hear company so stupid discourage people to top-up funds. petrol station reload charge 50cents per reload. Maybank ATM reload is best!
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vin_ann
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Aug 13 2014, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE(replymela @ Aug 13 2014, 04:06 AM) the dumbest thing about touch and go is the expiry. wtf man, I have an old card which cannot be used. have to buy new, after that don't use for 1 year card invalid  convenience my arse yaya! fark it. T&G requires at least 1 time of usage per year to keep the card active!
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UntilUComeBack
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Aug 13 2014, 10:30 AM
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petrol station ada atm ada
ktm station ada 7 11 ada
apa lgi u mau
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UntilUComeBack
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Aug 13 2014, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Aug 13 2014, 10:25 AM) petrol station reload charge 50cents per reload. Maybank ATM reload is best! i think petronas only charge? shell and bhp mcm tarak pun
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vin_ann
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Aug 13 2014, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE(UntilUComeBack @ Aug 13 2014, 10:31 AM) i think petronas only charge? shell and bhp mcm tarak pun there's certain BHP station still have 50 cents charges... (smaller one)
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jasonlim
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Aug 13 2014, 10:43 AM
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it is stupid that some place charge 50 cents for reload
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pay parking they charge extra 10%
they should actually give discount to encourage cashless payment la duh...
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UntilUComeBack
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Aug 13 2014, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Aug 13 2014, 10:36 AM) there's certain BHP station still have 50 cents charges... (smaller one) @_@" or maybe the easy way use zing card by cimb.
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exkaizen
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Aug 13 2014, 10:47 AM
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T&G SPOT tarak charge.... tapi you kena carik la... 50 cent only la... ATM can charge... patrol station can charge... toll also can charge... plan you reload schedule la... dah tinggal rm1 baru nak charge memang bahalol la... then complaint kata susah charge...
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fantasy1989
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Aug 13 2014, 10:48 AM
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tak suka 1 shot reload 500 ..
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harizdesu
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Aug 13 2014, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE(replymela @ Aug 13 2014, 04:06 AM) the dumbest thing about touch and go is the expiry. wtf man, I have an old card which cannot be used. have to buy new, after that don't use for 1 year card invalid  convenience my arse rm10 only for a new card.. cheapskate liao
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vin_ann
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Aug 13 2014, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(jasonlim @ Aug 13 2014, 10:43 AM) it is stupid that some place charge 50 cents for reload and pay parking they charge extra 10% they should actually give discount to encourage cashless payment la duh... agreed!!! QUOTE(UntilUComeBack @ Aug 13 2014, 10:44 AM) @_@" or maybe the easy way use zing card by cimb. Zing card? have u read the charges imposed? its RM2 / reload!
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UntilUComeBack
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Aug 13 2014, 11:15 AM
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tahfeikei
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Aug 13 2014, 11:16 AM
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petronas @ usj 20 inside got kaunter for free TnG reload
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catextract
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Aug 13 2014, 11:31 AM
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kalau susah sangat nak reload, baya cash la. beratur mcm orang lain tuh. aku topup sebulan skali touch n go. xde rasa susah pon. yg topup slalu nih poor fag sebab topup 10 ringgit pastu na pakai lama2
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sudustyle
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Aug 13 2014, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(advocado @ Aug 12 2014, 05:41 PM) I mean it's convenient to use, but once credit runs low, reloading is such a hassle, last time can reload at LRT Stations, then they replace with ATM machine which eated my rm20 and never gave back, now they all put T&C reload not available. Even highway toll station most places already no reload since 2-3 years ago, i don't know Sungei Besi can still reload or not, or have to go inside office to reload. Not sure RapidKL bus can reload or not, feels like the whole system down, or they purposely do it in favour of Rapidpass card? I hear petrol station can reload, but not sure how much they charge the fees. Use easy reload difficult, 1st time i hear company so stupid discourage people to top-up funds. ts is a dumbass
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futra
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Aug 13 2014, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(shirley_andy @ Aug 12 2014, 05:43 PM) reload at watson without RM0.50 charge. +1. Your reload will not be charged. You earn Watson points.
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jasonlim
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Aug 13 2014, 11:37 AM
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it should be standardize. not some charge some don't charge
for T&G do we have auto reload through CC? like when it is low in credit it will auto reload
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SUSfuzzy
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Aug 13 2014, 11:39 AM
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Go Bukit Tinggi MyMydin during weekend. Reload there using amex. 5% cash back
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ryanbleeth
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Aug 13 2014, 11:56 AM
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most bank offer auto reload option on touch N go and there is a limit you can set how much to top up and how much credit left to be top up.
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hotjake
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Aug 13 2014, 12:02 PM
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reloading t n g at caltex is free, TS
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iOnine
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Aug 13 2014, 12:02 PM
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caltex station - no fee all petronas can topup - RM0.50 most shell can - RM0.50
TBH, major TOL booths should have 1 lane dedicated for topup open 24hours la. -.-'
Top Up: RM10 RM20 RM50 or RM100
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activexxx
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Aug 13 2014, 12:05 PM
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i use watson member card to reload
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SUSadvocado
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Aug 13 2014, 01:10 PM
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when you say watson, any T&G card can or must be WATSON T&G cards? QUOTE(futra @ Aug 13 2014, 11:35 AM) +1. Your reload will not be charged. You earn Watson points.
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santik
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Aug 13 2014, 07:44 PM
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Reload at Watson no charge.
Certain petrol station no charge.
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D-Frog
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Aug 13 2014, 07:48 PM
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My touch and go auto reload when below rm50 hehe
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hirano
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Aug 13 2014, 08:33 PM
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Wat. I reload at any LRT station, no prob. Always can reload one. What yer prob?
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futra
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Aug 26 2014, 10:41 PM
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Just a reminder, last day this sunday.. Monday onwards just TnGO and smartags only..
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cybpsych
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Aug 27 2014, 07:07 AM
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VanishS
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Aug 27 2014, 07:09 AM
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Yes, what you need is touch on go on your forehead so you can hit your head with the sensors everytime you pay the toll
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cybpsych
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Aug 27 2014, 07:10 AM
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QUOTE(futra @ Aug 26 2014, 10:41 PM) Just a reminder, last day this sunday.. Monday onwards just TnGO and smartags only.. coming 1 September, Batu Tiga and Sungai Rasau toll plazas only la
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VanishS
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Aug 27 2014, 07:12 AM
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QUOTE(futra @ Aug 13 2014, 11:35 AM) +1. Your reload will not be charged. You earn Watson points. Nice thanks for info
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ZforZebra
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Aug 27 2014, 07:23 AM
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go petronas reload. charge rm0.50. very convenient since petronas is like eberywhere
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Nauts
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Aug 27 2014, 07:27 AM
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Use CIMB T&G ?
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mf_yamato
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Aug 27 2014, 07:34 AM
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pebenda la TS ni... nak reload pon payah ke.... 50sen pon berkira...
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ttleng
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Aug 27 2014, 07:46 AM
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Money in your hand is your money. Money reload on their system is their money. Why don't you plan your future money on something which benefit you rather let them spend without interest? Can them guarantee will speed up the traffic and wont jams? Surely cant.. Then why you paid advance with lousy services? If you wan implement it, I suggest we use first pay later
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idoblu
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Aug 27 2014, 07:56 AM
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What is this new Plus Card in the newspaper? Says to offer discount or free till end of the year
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Aug 27 2014, 08:14 AM
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QUOTE(ttleng @ Aug 27 2014, 07:46 AM) Money in your hand is your money. Money reload on their system is their money. Why don't you plan your future money on something which benefit you rather let them spend without interest? Can them guarantee will speed up the traffic and wont jams? Surely cant.. Then why you paid advance with lousy services? If you wan implement it, I suggest we use first pay later Welcum to marehsia where consumer rights no fuk given.
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harizdesu
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Aug 27 2014, 08:14 AM
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QUOTE(futra @ Aug 26 2014, 10:41 PM) Just a reminder, last day this sunday.. Monday onwards just TnGO and smartags only.. Sg Rasau and Batu Tiga only lah.. lololol
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cybpsych
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Aug 27 2014, 08:36 AM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Aug 27 2014, 07:56 AM) What is this new Plus Card that I saw in the newspaper? Says to offer discount or free till end of the year can clairfy what's the full name of the card? which newspaper? date?
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idoblu
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Aug 27 2014, 08:42 AM
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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Aug 27 2014, 08:36 AM) can clairfy what's the full name of the card? which newspaper? date? sorry no info, trying to find it out myself
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SUSblinkxox
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Aug 27 2014, 08:55 AM
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any petrol station got la. rm0.50 per top up.
- smart tag user since its introduction
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highwaykiller
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Aug 27 2014, 08:58 AM
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QUOTE(advocado @ Aug 12 2014, 05:41 PM) I mean it's convenient to use, but once credit runs low, reloading is such a hassle, last time can reload at LRT Stations, then they replace with ATM machine which eated my rm20 and never gave back, now they all put T&C reload not available. Even highway toll station most places already no reload since 2-3 years ago, i don't know Sungei Besi can still reload or not, or have to go inside office to reload. Not sure RapidKL bus can reload or not, feels like the whole system down, or they purposely do it in favour of Rapidpass card? I hear petrol station can reload, but not sure how much they charge the fees. Use easy reload difficult, 1st time i hear company so stupid discourage people to top-up funds. petro station charge 50sen every 100 reload, even reload 10 also kena 50sen charges, but now there is a few petro station have T&Go kiosk which reload for free I just felt that not convenient when I want to redeem cash back, must go to their office....
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arif85124
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Aug 27 2014, 09:01 AM
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tiap2 kali reload rm10 je, memang la menyusahkan
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highwaykiller
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Aug 27 2014, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE(teamjoker @ Aug 27 2014, 09:03 AM) now no more cash back, your problem solved.
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SUS~min~
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Aug 27 2014, 09:24 AM
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ya this thread is so true. yesterday l drive to kuantan, not even 1 place can topup tng. petronas rnr also tng down. lucky just enough balance
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andrewhtf
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Aug 27 2014, 09:32 AM
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QUOTE(arif85124 @ Aug 27 2014, 09:01 AM) tiap2 kali reload rm10 je, memang la menyusahkan true true... satu kali one shot reload 2-3 hundred rm can pakai long time.
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futra
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Aug 27 2014, 09:36 AM
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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Aug 27 2014, 07:10 AM) coming 1 September, Batu Tiga and Sungai Rasau toll plazas only la Exactly. Pardon my mistake. 1st Sept morning, sure got unnecessary jam at the toll, ppl ignore yet complain pretending dunno when did the toll no more accepting money, have to fork out some rm10 to buy TnGo card at that time and queue will be terrible
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ZzZzz...
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Aug 27 2014, 09:47 AM
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my one is auto reload one , zing card
the unbearable part is parking rate in mall using T&G need extra 10% rate..wtf
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cybpsych
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Aug 27 2014, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE(futra @ Aug 27 2014, 09:36 AM) Exactly. Pardon my mistake. 1st Sept morning, sure got unnecessary jam at the toll, ppl ignore yet complain pretending dunno when did the toll no more accepting money, have to fork out some rm10 to buy TnGo card at that time and queue will be terrible  now they offering Plusmile TnG card, RM5 with RM5 preloaded credit (i.e. FREE card). Get it fast fast http://www.plus.com.my/index.php?option=co...emid=69&lang=enQUOTE Additionally, highway users will also be able to purchase preloaded RM5 PLUSMiles Touch ‘n Go cards (card given free of charge) at a promotional rate of RM5 at the dedicated reload lanes and Customer Service Centres at both toll plazas until 30 November 2014.
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cybpsych
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Aug 27 2014, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE(ZzZzz... @ Aug 27 2014, 09:47 AM) my one is auto reload one , zing card the unbearable part is parking rate in mall using T&G need extra 10% rate..wtf do u know that Zing cards have reload fee everytime it autoreload? some charge 50sen, some like maybank zing card charge RM2 per autoreload nia.
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napoli26
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Aug 27 2014, 10:01 AM
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welcome to malaysia
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xavi5567
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Aug 27 2014, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE(advocado @ Aug 12 2014, 05:41 PM) I mean it's convenient to use, but once credit runs low, reloading is such a hassle, last time can reload at LRT Stations, then they replace with ATM machine which eated my rm20 and never gave back, now they all put T&C reload not available. Even highway toll station most places already no reload since 2-3 years ago, i don't know Sungei Besi can still reload or not, or have to go inside office to reload. Not sure RapidKL bus can reload or not, feels like the whole system down, or they purposely do it in favour of Rapidpass card? I hear petrol station can reload, but not sure how much they charge the fees. Use easy reload difficult, 1st time i hear company so stupid discourage people to top-up funds. go sg besi petronas reload la.. u complain too much la... i prefer to drive into sg besi tng centre as i can reload using credit card... earn point while reload... no harm done.. all the win only..
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ZzZzz...
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Aug 27 2014, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Aug 27 2014, 10:01 AM) do u know that Zing cards have reload fee everytime it autoreload? some charge 50sen, some like maybank zing card charge RM2 per autoreload nia. yayaya. im those lazy type that go reload manually. it takes my times and need keep track of the balance left. so auto reload still fit me best
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SUSadvocado
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Aug 27 2014, 10:46 AM
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i have those smarttag without LCD, just wondering, when i press the test button should there be any sound?
i put card & battery in press no sound,
without card keeps beeping,
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bigmac999
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Aug 27 2014, 10:49 AM
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bigmac999
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Aug 27 2014, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE(advocado @ Aug 27 2014, 10:46 AM) i have those smarttag without LCD, just wondering, when i press the test button should there be any sound? i put card & battery in press no sound, without card keeps beeping, change battery?
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vin_ann
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Aug 27 2014, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(advocado @ Aug 27 2014, 10:46 AM) i have those smarttag without LCD, just wondering, when i press the test button should there be any sound? i put card & battery in press no sound, without card keeps beeping, read the manual.
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SUSadvocado
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Aug 27 2014, 10:57 AM
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battery low will have di di, di di sound with card in it, but i press with card no sound press without card keeps dididididi QUOTE(bigmac999 @ Aug 27 2014, 10:50 AM) change battery? 
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bigmac999
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Aug 27 2014, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE(advocado @ Aug 27 2014, 10:57 AM) battery low will have di di, di di sound with card in it, but i press with card no sound press without card keeps dididididi put your didi in
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SUSadvocado
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Aug 27 2014, 11:07 AM
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no manual... anyway forget it i'm just gonna try it on smartag, sucks to be you if you happen to be behind me. QUOTE(vin_ann @ Aug 27 2014, 10:56 AM)
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vin_ann
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Aug 27 2014, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(advocado @ Aug 27 2014, 11:07 AM) no manual... anyway forget it i'm just gonna try it on smartag, sucks to be you if you happen to be behind me. why bother about sound when your Smartag working fine.
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SUSadvocado
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Aug 27 2014, 11:28 AM
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i don't know working fine or not, i just replaced the battery wanna check it's ok, i use cheap battery not everyday. QUOTE(vin_ann @ Aug 27 2014, 11:13 AM) why bother about sound when your Smartag working fine.
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bigmac999
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Aug 27 2014, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE(advocado @ Aug 27 2014, 11:28 AM) i don't know working fine or not, i just replaced the battery wanna check it's ok, i use cheap battery not everyday. go buy energizer/duracell battery laa
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weoili
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Aug 27 2014, 11:32 AM
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Actually the most frustrating part is when want to use in parking. We have to pay extra 10% when using it.
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yusk8
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Aug 27 2014, 11:36 AM
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put didi inside tng device...?
desperate sgt tu....
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JonSpark
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Aug 27 2014, 11:40 AM
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My nearby got 7-11, Maybank ATM, Shell all can reload TnG charge or not doesn't really matter la, unless you reload small amount like RM10~20
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zem
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Aug 27 2014, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE(bigmac999 @ Aug 27 2014, 10:57 AM) my coffee tersembur.
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cybpsych
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Aug 27 2014, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE(yusk8 @ Aug 27 2014, 11:36 AM) put didi inside tng device...? desperate sgt tu.... di-di-diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii ~mampoi~
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