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Rotuham
post Aug 5 2014, 09:37 PM

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The need for a star striker was highlighted as soon as suarez left but most ppl said marquee not needed but an overall unit,we dont buy stars we make them and all those idealistic bull crap.

Without that star striker forget the league,top is 4 is looking more bleak.

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post Aug 14 2014, 11:00 AM

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As everyone knows no manager can have 100% success in the transfer market.

So this is whom i think will be successful and flop
Success: Can,markovic,lovren,moreno,manquillo
Flop: lambert,lallana,origi
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post Aug 15 2014, 07:35 PM

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I personally think there is more chance of winning CL than epl.But i wouldnt mind CL and PL double though.
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post Aug 16 2014, 02:49 AM

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i am not sure why people are keen on bony.he is very likely to be another michu jelavic or demba ba.

Instant quality would be lavezzi which would be similar to how united signed van persie and won the league.
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post Aug 16 2014, 03:58 PM

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I feel rodgers planned to bring in a top striker late.It would be easier to convince him to join the project after all the quality players signed so far than say at the beginning of the transfer window where no player has been signed.

Either one of Reus,lavezzi cavani or falcao and this will be the most successful transfer window in the last 25 years.
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post Aug 16 2014, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(kakashi44 @ Aug 16 2014, 03:07 PM)
I don't rate Bony and base on last 2 season performance, 17M for 29 years old Lavezzi is too much. I would rather we paid 27M for Reus.
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I don't think bony would offer anything different from the current players.We are not going too miss the goalscorer suarez as much as the creator suarez.The best person to replace suarez goals is already in the team but somebody to take create space for others and add that fear factor isn't.

Lavezzi allowed messi and di maria to strive in the world cup.So he is the best bet to "replace" suarez.

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post Aug 16 2014, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(hfi @ Aug 16 2014, 06:21 PM)
So we sign Levazzi and improves our wide play but what happens when Sturridge gets injured ? He was decent for Argentina but that team had Higuan, Messi and a semi fit Aguero as strikers. We don't have that kind of depth. We need someone who can step up in case Sturridge gets injured. Lambert is 32 and is purely a back up striker. That's why we initially went for Bony and then nearly signed Remy, before inquiring for Falcao and Cavani, as they are all strikers who could lead the line.
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For the current system employed you want versatile players.Is bony versatile enough?i strongly believe lavezzi is.I remember he scored at anfield in the europa league.He can lead in sturridge absence.All this epl proven has been proven to be bull crap.Can you guarantee bony wont suffer second season syndrome?Will he able to step up to expectations and pressure? From what i have seen he looks like a lazy player.Lavezzi on the other hand is a hardworking player and has champions league experience.

The only advantage bony has is age.Other than that lavezzi hands down.
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post Aug 16 2014, 10:32 PM

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I hope people realise now that bony is not actually good enough.
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post Aug 17 2014, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(yeelong @ Aug 17 2014, 01:51 AM)
Striker that fit to his system, you can see from Suarez, he can beat his man down 1 on 1 and to straight to the goal or assist. Struj is not that kind of player, Sterling can do 1 on 1 but his finishing touch not near Suarez. I think BR need a striker will good finishing, poacher at the goal mouth. Who is better at this moment?
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Sturridge may not have suarez skills but to say he cant beat a man is totally unfair.He still has more pace and skills than most of the other strikers in europe.21 league goals is no small feat either.I predict sturridge to get 25-26 goals this season provided he doesn't get injured too long.I rate him among the top 5 strikers in the world right now.
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post Aug 17 2014, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(digilife @ Aug 17 2014, 02:40 PM)
We as title contenders,  nowadays seldom talk mid table teams anymore.

Lets beat Soton tonite to roll out our title challenge.
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Wait till tonight win then talk bro.If kalah malu only.
Title challenge depends on the striker BR brings in.As of now top 4 looks bright even though all the pundits and media are writing off liverpool's chances.
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post Aug 17 2014, 08:59 PM

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Glen johnson jesus the worst player ever.Cant wait for moreno to take his place.
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post Aug 17 2014, 09:44 PM

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Emre can for lucas please.Attacking wise there is nobody to bring on though.
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post Aug 17 2014, 10:14 PM

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How some people think bony would be a solution is completely out of my understanding.
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post Aug 17 2014, 10:25 PM

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Johnson and lucas in the first plane out of liverpool please.
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post Aug 17 2014, 11:19 PM

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In a way yes after winning this game a title challenge is on the cards.However it's important that mistakes made today are not repeated.Otherwise i can see a city rout next week.

One thing rodgers has done is instill a winning mentality even when not playing well.Top strikers like sturridge can pop out with the winning goal at the crucial moment.
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post Aug 18 2014, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(boomer @ Aug 18 2014, 03:20 PM)
im sayin bout commenting players performance...johnson etc...rodgers has his reason choosing him...he analyze these players everyday...just back them up
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I have been supporting rodgers since day one but are you trying to tell he doesn't make mistakes?
He does alot but the important thing is he learns from them unlike his predecessors.

Sitting there and pretending johnson had a great game is not an option is it?
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post Aug 19 2014, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(hfi @ Aug 19 2014, 07:02 PM)
The combined cost of wage and fee is speculated to be around 30-35mil per ONE year loan. On the up side, he stays fit and scores for fun, we reap the reward and Real will thank us at the end of the season for getting him fit again. The worse case scenario, he plays for 5 matches and gets injured for the rest of the season, and we paid 35mil for nothing.

For me, he's what i call a high risk, high reward target. The potential benefit can be really amazing, but it could also end up being one of our most expensive and wasteful transfer since Andy Carroll.
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Really comparing falcao a proven world class player to a half season wonder?
You do realise that if falcao signs liverpool will go from top 4 contenders to title contenders right?I think you have an agenda to see average players like bony sign by tilting the argument.

Granted falcao leaves at the end of a successful season.The minimum is a top 4 place.What makes you think other top strikers won't want to join then?There will always be top strikers.Besides origi comes back next year.

And you are over exaggerating the loss if falcao flops.You do realise that he can be sent back similar to how sahin was? 200k per week was already going to go to suarez had he stayed.

If the club was gonna give up easily then no way suarez torres would have signed in the past.Even moreno took hard work.Just support the club and rodgers decision.If he ends up getting bony then so be it.You got your wish.
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post Aug 20 2014, 02:53 AM

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If liverpool buy cavani or lavezzi then psg get money to buy di maria which means united will miss out on him.That's killing two birds with one stone.
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post Aug 20 2014, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(wadefak @ Aug 20 2014, 08:10 AM)
well definitely not me. last minute shopping usually triggers panic buys and that is much worse. marquee or not, the player still needs to prove himself worthy for such wage.
please bare in mind that Suarez earned that kind of wage, after playing several seasons for us. for someone who's still a gamble, the price is too high.
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With times you need to adapt or else you will get left behind.If city never broke their wage structure they would have never won their 2 PL titles.
38 million plus 250k a week for aguero at that time seemed a big gamble to many on here who felt signing downing and adam would be more secure.
Besides we are not expecting liverpool to do that for every single player like they did.Just one quality player won't hurt more than it hurt after all this years of paying overpriced british players like downing,adam,robbie keane and carroll.

There was once a time where nobody could earn higher than gerrard.It changed with suarez that they had to offer him higher wages to try keep him.
If you want to challenge for the title you have to push out of your comfort zone and take risks.Do you think city regret paying extra for that quality now?

I don't see people complaining that lallana was overpriced at 25million but are quick to jump as soon as foreign players are involved.
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post Aug 20 2014, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(wadefak @ Aug 20 2014, 12:18 PM)
lala's price tag is 25M, not sure about his wages though. btw i'm not in any manner questioning his price tag, just the wage demand is a bit too much for someone who is yet to prove himself. thats all  biggrin.gif
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He has proved himself where ever he has gone.I would put the chance of him succeeding at about 75%.
There were a lot of doubts too about suarez in the beginning as he came from a much inferior league.

The expectation with a new marquee striker should not be replacing 31 goals that suarez scored.That would be foolish.
I would be very happy if he scored anywhere between 15-20 goals.The main thing is we expect crucial goals at desperate moments like when the scoreline is 2-2 at the 88th minute and your entire team is probing for that winning goal.You just expect that moment of magic from the likes of falcao to make the difference.......Swap that with bony.How hopeful would you be to win if you get what i mean.

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