My fren is planning to buy his 1st car in his life...!
He now is thinking btw MyVi and Savvy, dont know which 1 would be a better choice.
He is a normal city driver; so he doesnt need a powerful car, he need a car which is save petrol (but dont want kancil)...
His plan to buy a 40-50k car; pls tell me/us if u hv other good car suggestion..
I really hope to hear some comments from MyVi's and Savvy's owners

If its me i would take MyVi....

reason??

actually, in terms of outlook, brand-image.. MyVi would be a better choice.
but, i read a lot of car reviews (from oversea) saying that Savvy's performance and handling is damm damm good..
it's make me confuse...

This post has been edited by python_king: Aug 23 2006, 02:17 PM

I'll go for savvy.. overall performance better and cheaper. i heard cheaper spare parts compared to myvi

Well i choose MyVI mostly bcoz of the size and look of the car... I tried a friend savvy b4 n for a 5' 8" i find it a bit hard to find a comfortable driving position, and when the position is ok it would eat away the legroom for the occupant behind the driver side.... Boot space is limited also, in one of our trip to melaka, 2 of my friends had to tumpang their luggage in my car coz there is simply no room left in the savvy boot...

MyVI i find more roomier n eases my mind to know that the occupants would b comfortable... Donno bout power of the engine though, it should be ok i think...

i dun own those car.. but i got 1 opinion that wan to share..

i more prefer savvy lah.. but then.. i think the myvi second hand price is more high rite? if comapre to savvy cause more ppl take myvvi if compare to savvy loh..

so.. if he wan to change car often de.. try get myvvi with better second hand price ^^

agree.... heehee

but if u have driven a savvy before, u will not think of it because its such a fun car to trash.... errrr drive

btw, have u seen a pic of a myvvi in an accident b4 compared to a savvy.... form there i think u will know which car to buy.... google it up...\

good luck

well, if ur fren likes a spirited ride, y not go for a satria neo instead?
bigger engine, much better suspension, lower chassis

all else, if ur fren wants an easy to drive car, myvi is still the way to go

i'm in a same dilemma myself.

planning to get a new car.

Savvy looks quite nice - GREY one only. some i still don't like the colour. makes them look ugly. BUT i like the fact that it's AMT and 1.2L for such a price.

Myvi looks nice - i don't mind any color. i like the size, the space, the everything - but auto will cost more and i'd really like to have auto.

so price vs price, it's Myvi 1.0 manual vs Savvy 1.2 AMT.

another reason to get the Savvy is that it's not so common. see Myvi so common until don't feel like getting it already.

and yeah, i was a Savvy-looks-basher and sort of still one but i admit that the grey and green one looks nice, and that Savvys look really nice with the bodykits. (although deep in my heart i still don't like the toilet seat hood and awkward back view)

other reasons for getting Savvy in my book, is that people don't quite like it so therefore lesser demand, therefore lesser theft target. LOL. ok well i have no proof on this, just a POV of mine.

do u hv the url?

Comparing the 2,

If you'd asked me to choose a car based on looking at the accident pics, I'd choose MyVi... BUT, driving a car means trying to avoid the accidents in the first place.

If you'd asked me to choose a car based on looks, I'll also go with MyVi. Sure the Savvy looks cool with the bodykit and the back of the MyVi sometimes do look like an upside down mushroom, but in overall, MyVi still looks nicer and have a hack of a lot more bodykits then Savvy.

If you'd asked me to choose a car based on driving peformance, I'd say go for Savvy for a more powerful ride and better handing. And go with the MyVi for a more comfortable ride. Add a strut bar and step on the accelerator harder, the MyVi can go from 0-100KMh faster then a Wira Manual. So it's not so weak after all and the handling is quite good with the bar.

If you want to save fuel, go with Savvy.

If you want to fetch people, go with MyVi

If you want to have a better and healthier body in terms of bone stucture when you grow older, Get the MyVi. (yeah, I'd just gone through my company's egornomics session.)

And if you're not limited to only these 2 cars, I'd suggest comparing MyVi with Satra Neo instead of Savvy.

And if you have the moolah, Get Honda City instead.

MyVi FTW!

hi folks,

any ideal car for 40-50k? (besides Myvi and Savvy)

for me savvy is good in term of fuel economic and yes the car really look cool in grey..but in term of maintenance i think the europe engine quite hard and expensive to maintain..i prefer MyVi because it spacious and design really appeal me..dunno bout others..but in the end it depend on thread starter and his money

Contrary to popular believe.. it's not that expeanive the parts...maybe RM500 timing belt kit is expensive but price seems ok compare to other makes as it includes water pump kit.

Just some info.

One other nice thing about savvy is the gearbox which contributes to nice driving experience...not talking about AMT though cos different story..

If you like manual tranny car..you'll feel nice changing gears in Savvy manual which is stiff and solid..clutch which is hard also can be tweaked to become softer...

One lady friend who's been drving kancil agrees with me...she feels her kancil like a toy after drving my savvy that is include overall experience also, overall the car feels heavy and drives like a bigger car, might not be a better choice for girls thou... perodua manual gearbox is too soft too lembik..including Myvi manual..

And at least you don't have to bring in certain part from other countries(ie. like drveshaft from japan for corolla altis) since savvy is 100% proton's product.

I'm gonna be a hyprocrite and an idiot at the same time.

Between, MYVI and Savvy, put aside Proton's terribly negative repo and go with Savvy. The one wit R3 bodykit, is really nice in my opinion. The disgusting back lights that look like elephants poo regurgitated from a giraffe's peehole, can be changed. No probs there.
The Satria Neo is also an excellent road-handler. I pusing at 60KM/h, pretty also the car like no challenge ajer. Then I tried up to 80KM/h, not a simple corner either, it still gripped, albeit the ass felt like it was going to tear off the road. The pickup was sucky though.

The myvi....rolling potatoes on size 12 shoes skating off 2 wheeled rollerblades.
It's engine's, choking when u switch the aircond off. But with the aricond switched off, it's pretty vroomy.

On the idiot side, can the feller naik buget? For RM59K, u can get a Honda City 2003 IDSI off motortrder.com.my
Check it out

No offense, but is this even technical at all ? I don't think it should belong here cos its more of an opinion or preference than any technical reasons.

Mod what do you think ?

just about every other car in BSD is a myvi!

anyway,i'd go for the myvi,simple reason:space.

sat in a savvy before,not at all comfortable

Depends.... Both is a great car for these price range.....

If you go for Bigger Interior Space and Outlook
- GO for MyVi

If you go for Handling and performance
- GO for Savvy

i will absolutely go for savvy, myvi just receive tooo much bad fc problem, almost 10 got 9 complain for it ( imean auto car)

just go for savvy, and well take care it, it will serve u best, and further it is AMT

My sister got a green manual savvy. and before i gotmy neo, it's a damn nice car to drive. once i got my neo, rarely drive the savvy unless i really have to

sorry for going off topic.

my feedback:
for a city driving car, savvy is a good choice since it's small but the clutch will kill your driving spirit if you are in a very bad jam. go for the AMT instead. in terms of space, it's only ok-ish. atleast i can ferry two of my friends for TT easily as compared to my neo where the back seat fella have to cramp his legs. myvi should be better than the savvy if compared to passanger space.

though, i'm very eager to try a myvi. been a long time since it was launched and yet haven't sat in one yet. plus not to mention that it's hard to find a test unit in kepong. 1.3DVVT in a small frame, i don't think that it'll be that underpowered (refering to manual version of course)

for me myvi is more intresting

i'll go for myvi.

increase budget a bit, get satria neo.....
it all comes down to what will u use the car for...
if u know u'll gonna be picking up friends, go for myvi.. more space..
myvi is actually a toyota passo and the chassis is quite stiff and it can handle corners with a few bars or so better than savvy for sure.. the manual myvi can be a fuel saver and provide more performance than the auto version...

savvy, amt, erm, its basically a renault under the hood.. limited rear legroom too...
savvy got 3 star euro ncap rating
unofficial rating for myvi is 4 stars... (refered to daihatsu counterpart)

If I show you some accidents pictures of some of the MyVi Club members, you'll sure want to get a MyVi for the safety reasons...

The cabin area are practically untouched. Even the windows are intact without a crack after the car fliped sideways into longkang... Unlike the Savvy accident pics where you can actually see the front pillars bending down slightly.

You may argue on the accident may be of different force of impact... Yup...
But the fact still remains to be unproven by Savvy supporters. The Passo/MyVi/Sirion platform beats the Savvy platform by 1 star in Euro NCAP ratings. That's 4 stars versus 3 stars. and You've seen Jeremy clarkson explaning how you can get your leg amputated and ribs broken in a 3 star car (3 stars is with air bags and our dear malaysian version doesn't comes with it).

Acceleration: If you want handling, get a savvy.. Honestly, that's where the car excels best. But it's pure sluggish when it compares to a 1.3 litre engine of the MyVi. I'm driving a MyVi 1.3 Auto and my friend in a 1.6Waja was complaning about his pickup againts my car. and I've rode in my friend's 1.3 manual and the difference was tremendus. I'm saying it's a 0 to 100 car in less then 10 seconds. Yes, that's a family car which can do less then 10 seconds which the savvy can't. And honestly, the handling isn't bad either. Doing corners are actually better then many cars... Just that it looses to the Savvy... Big deal!!!

Yup. Savvy is a great car...
And Yup... MyVi is also a great car...

But think about this...
If you want handling, Myvi is just as good. Good enough to be modded into a drift car. If you want power, MyVi has plenty of it to even beat cars with bigger engines. If you want to mod, hack... drop in a k3-VET turbo engine with tiptronic gear shift on the myvi and lets see it fly. What mod can the Savvy do besides from a little 3rd party bars and from Proton itself? If you want comfort, there's no doubt about MyVi. If you want petrol savings, go for savvy... But you'll regreat it when you consider the resale value.. HAhahaha.....

I've supported Savvy enough la actually...

if you can fit in the car, why not?

i have torubles seating in the sawi - kinda tight and cramped for my (ever enlarging) size

SAUCE PLEASE!!!!

think bout air bags and think bout when u gonna fetch 3 or 4 peoples or chiqs while clubbing or go somewhere?

for those who height not more than 170cm, maybe savvy still acceptable la... but for those who more than 175cm... feel like u place urself inside a small moving box... i'm 175cm and above... and i found myself uncomfortable when sitting inside a wira, so don't talk bout savvy

daihatsu/toyota product vs proton product... which 1 do u prefer? unless u don't ever care bout quality...

anyway it's just my 2 cent la...

This post has been edited by aH wAi: Sep 5 2006, 01:13 AM

ah... i see both airbags deployed...
not bad for a small car... crumple zones did their job...
cabin still safe... all windows untouched ?

warning if consider myvi, the rear seats, are crap for anyone above 160cm....
your neck will be at the top of the headrest with no way to increase the height..
but myvi is a better car to drive adn to mod in my POV

my experience, myvi handling is so-so only. what u'd expect from mini MPVs? acceleration wise i dun think it's underpowered. can hit 140km/h++ above quite easily. well, for town drving it's ok but for long distance is kinda nightmare. i found out the seat is abit stiff. fc is great 15.9-16.3km/l (my 1.3 sxi stock).

Correction, MyVi is not a Mini MPV. It's a K-Car (Below 1.3litres) hatchback (Boot door directly connected to the body roof and opens upwards).

MPV (Multi purpose Vehicle) is supposed to be able to be used conviniently for family and business purposes such as carrying lots of goods while still fetching 4 people like the Unser or Avanza. Cars like MyVi are not capable of carrying goods like that dispite the folding chairs feature.

i'm close to 180cm and i find the rear seats are roomy all-over.

MyVi is also good for long distance as the spaciousness is rewarding. I would also choose auto (for MyVi or Savvy) since it is more relaxing to drive.


If I'm going to speedy drive, I won't be getting MyVi or Savvy at all. I would take 6-speed manual japanese cars.

i think you mean savvy....

i've sat in a savvy before,cannot sit straight must slouch

best part is,the sales man sits the same way,but says it is comfortable(ofcourse it's comfortable if your ALONE in the back seat!
try sitting 3 people?
long distance will be the last thing on your mind..

K-Car is at 660 cc maximum based from Japanese law...

The last time i checked, we're in m'sia.....
does it really matter the cc's?
i sure don't think it looks like any minimpv

K-Car originates from there........K-Car strictly have fixed dimensions, 660 cc max...

MyVi is not a K-Car, because, the platform itself, is based from 1st generation Toyota Yaris/ Vitz, which itself is not a K-Car....

I have bumped my head on the top of small cars (especially my old kancil) to avoid them at all costs.. the myvi is really good, leg and head room FC not that problematic lah.. RM60 can go at least 380 (usually 400-420km before blinking).. but if city drive (ie around bkt bintang where u tekan brake 90% of the time a kancil 660 is best since almost all the time is idling)

This post has been edited by ceo684: Sep 6 2006, 09:27 PM

Correction: SAVVY IS NOT A 3-star NCAP neither is MyvI. Myvi is not boon or passo. We should take the actual result as a reference not to base the car on other cars.

SAVVY'S NCAP actual result IS NOT OUT yet... a 3-star car mentioned by car mag is just a basis for the car's potential to achieve a minimal ratings for a car with good safety features..
Many journalists have said Savvy has better ride & handling than Myvi...I think this is virtually agreed by all.

Savvy's chassis is tough from the inside frames to exterior panels. It uses some kind of special steel with rigidity almost equivalent to a Rover75. It's the toughest Proton car to date even tougher than Proton's latest hot looking car, the Satria NEO.

I'm 5'9'', 175cm, I find the interior space is reasonable. More spacios than Kelisa and PIcanto. Still find it strange people complaining about space when I feel the rear leg room is pretty big, even if you drive like ah beng with steering far from your shoulder.

If you can't base something with the same platform, same safety features, same body rigidity and same engine to get the same NCAP result, then I have no idea already... Besides, It's already seen in many pictures that the body of the MyVi is very strong even compared to Savvy (Cept for side impact to a tree)

And Savvy is already claimed by Proton to be 3 stars complient by their own design. And usually designers base their assumption via calculations and comparison to their own product range. Which is quite seldom wrong. Unless of course, Proton was being humble (Waaaaaaaa!!!!)

And handling is no doubt Savvy better... I said No doubt it's better.... and I also said... with a few bars added to MyVi (Yalah, stock is shitty), MyVi can still outperform a normal saloon's handling. Even seen Myvi drift cars before with my own eyes.

PS: I'm mistaked about K-Car category then. Was being told by K-Car club member that MyVi is a K-Car last month.

n305er, i think that you should understand by now that hypermount IS a proton fanboy.
seriously dude, myvi, boon, and paso are jointly developed by toyota, daihatsu and perodua. though i'm not sure which part did perodua played, designing the emblem perhaps

i'm about 5"10 (178cm) - i just had went to PE the other day to sit in the Savvy again.

the driver part is fine, i can drive comfortably. however i can't fetch myself, but of course this is normal. i can't fetch myself when i'm on a Satria either, NEO or not.

what i did was adjusted the driver seat to my comfort, then go to the backseat - the one behind the driver.

yup it's cramped. i have to open my legs. my head is near the ceiling and all.

the rear leg room is small. i sat comfortably on a Myvi but not a Savvy.

however i've no problem getting a Savvy cos if ever people sitting at the back, it'll be my parents or in-laws which they're not as tall or as big a build as i am.

(i think i've mentioned this earlier but i'm going to mention this again)
i've considered both Myvi and Savvy. i'm inclined to choose Savvy for the following reasons
1. lesser people drive, see so many Myvi around. bored already.
2. AMT
3. cheaper (with AMT some more)
4. it looks nice with R3 kit, and i don't have to find shops to rice it up for me already
5. it's ugly to most people, so lesser in demand and less likely stolen (ok la this reason sounds a bit dumb. LOL.)
6. nice FC

this one totally agree with u
if me i rather choose comfortable car
imagine u use it for long distance then behind those ppl sure feel not comfortable
i also like u b4
planning to get a car between savy myvi and kenari
and last i get the myvi after we testing it

This post has been edited by kit0: Sep 13 2006, 11:51 AM

still don't understand why people keep argue the 2 famous topic of all time ... savvy vs myvi, then vios vs city

if you like any of the model, just buy it...that's simple...

we're talking about 50k to 80k cars..
not 50 ringgit to 80 ringgit
u plan to main main with your 50 000?

huh? myvi and savvy more then 50k?

Including loan interest?

i would say myvi..coz i nvr try savvy b4

how do u define good handling ?


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50k only wat... still reasonable....
if 500k then different story la

Good handling to me is :
Taking a 180deg. corner in 3rd gear at min.90km/h and with very min. body roll.
Best spot to try is downhill from Jln.D'sara heading towards Jln.Duta.

u meant 90 or 270 degrees rite? coz 180 degrees is just a straight line bro

car tak bergolek dah kira lucky, wat bodyroll sumore.

180 degree corner.... is U-turn ler.....

there is one corner, from kesas to get on to the elite highway....
a kancil can whack that corner at 90 km/h also...

so the kancil handling is as good as savvy ?
kancil is stock

i know cuz its mine

whoa.....i loan u my stock myvi, u think u dare to try that ?

can...
but if the car cannot take it and buang then u settle yourself
no problem

i think we have got it all wrong about what exactly is comfort..

spaciousness is not the only factor

the ride quality does make a major difference

too much body rolls can make you feel nausea.

Mostly what I said is what I had experienced...I saw many passengers of those big MPVs vomiited by the roadside along the winding roads of cameron highlands

then does the rear passengers complain about ride bumpiness even at hi speed PLUS highway?!

savvy excels in this area the ride is firm yet comfortable.

you ask yourself.

still nobody answer my question...
how do u define good handling ?
able to whack corner ?

maybe savy handling can turn corner like initial D and able to perform longkang skill

I never sit on both

If want below 50k, i thought Gen2 1.3 also below 50k? This i also never sit.. just suggestion lar dono about these cars

IMO that car would be under-powered.

Savvy sucks. small leg space, small head space...head rest tilted downwards so my head cant fit it and worst of all, the clock is at the speedometer!! WTF

btw, sharing savvy with my dad till my MyVi comes at January

and one question, why the gear change seems a bit heavy feeling? i mean i shift gears, the gear seems shaking 1

This post has been edited by kobe8byrant: Nov 13 2006, 07:52 PM

u know how to drive first in the first place or not ?


been inside a sports car before or a car with sports transmission?
their clutch is heavy

dude, how tall are you? 8 feet?

rear seat is kinda cramped, but front i find it fine. i'm about 6ft.

then again it depends on the make of your body, some people have longer body some have shorter body.

so in sitting position, it does make a difference.

i had the same dilemma too...but i went for myvi...
already booked...
will get da car in near future...
hehe

i think proton have set a new target lor...they now use persona to fight with myvis...so,definately myvi lose lorr...at the same price range,persona totally beats myvi down..but if u still wanna choose between savvy and myvi,better go for myvi lahh..