Hi Guys,

Just a random comparison on both A250 and GTi, which one would be a better choice?

How long is the waiting list currently for A250 Sport?

*Not sure whether it has been discussed before as most of the threads I see are just A250 vs (BMW Models)
*The reason I'm comparing these two is because the price is about 10k difference (A250 & GTi [Tech Pack])

Feel free to express your views on both cars.




Thank you

I vote for Merc

On paper, performance seems to be more or less the same...

But I'd go for the Merc. Looks much better.

How about the ride comfort, reviews stats that the Merz is quite stiff and harsh and is not suitable for daily drive. How true is that? Is it that bad?

merc more class

Only the Brand "Mercedes Benz" already worth the price and a class above the VW!

Dunno liao..

Not rich enough to bother going to test drive either car.

That's why I said on paper, coz I dont know how it handles.

But Merc exudes much more class than VW.

And the Merc on the road just looks so so good.

I've been always a fan for gti.. Will definitely vote for gti..

VW already classed like Proton here. No thanks the DSG TFSI versions Golf. GTi no problem. I would go for Merc simply because its new as hell, more space, more better looking. But if i wanna smoke here and there with handing to boot, i would go for Gti because of short platform.

I heard someone go to dyno a250, seem hp less compare to on paper..?

A250 is nice looking car..

waiting period is now ard 6-9 months

Is TS buying one?

Hanifah.H pintu suka hati doremon.

1+ merc

However the Amg A45 is really nice, it doesnt have full 1 touch launch control button, it needs to be done semi-manually... interesting...

A250 has more space?

they may be the same or comparable in any other thing,
but the AMG looks classy, while the Golf looks like a soccermom's car.

every gearbox has power loss, so dyno will show less

If looks score high in your requirements, the A250 will have an edge. For everything else, I'm afraid the A250 will not fare better than the GTi. And of course, there is the badge argument.

This post has been edited by dtna7: Aug 1 2014, 02:01 PM

and warranty as well...but you should be able to get about 20+k off for 2013 GTI so the choice is much easier if i'm blessed with having your dilemma

Yup, look at it this way la, the A250 won the race even without having to start the engine

although they are roughly the same price, they are very very diffrent cars for diffrent segments of consumers.

GTI is for drivers...ppl who love to drive, love handling and performance

A250 is for more brand conscious ppl, a car to show neighbors that you have "arrived". I dislike the a250 interior because its too ah beng...the red aircon rings etc..and the horrendous small pop up monitor. The A200 has a more refined interior because of the brush aluminium instead of carbon/red trim

ahh yes. The 4yrs instead of 2+3. How can i forget that.

Yes. 20k+ off is possible. Not for the Tech Pack specified by TS though. These are very hard to come by, and when they do, they are instantly snapped up within days.

Actually the Golf R is just 247k for base spec...just 9k more then a A250, i think that should be the proper comparo

A250 ftw......

What the world has become..race won by look? Now at it at this way pulak...the normal looking car beat the crap out of A250..mana nak letak muka at that time huh?

If looks is your priority - A250
If what you want is a hot hatch with performance - Golf GTI

If u want to be grouped as a high class ahbeng, get merc
If u just wanna enjoy ur ride, plus more practical, get golf gti instead
A class stiff riding, smaller interior, is a big letdown..
If i were u, at this moment of time i would get the golf gti

both are performance car. so, comfort wise should be out of topic ba.

This post has been edited by UncleLim: Aug 1 2014, 04:27 PM

even if you want a hot hatch, getting a car that looked like it belongs to an aunty fetching kids to school is a let-down. that is exactly the kinda look the Golf is giving out.

What i meant is that I saw many automotive blog reviews mentioning the A250 is very stiff and harsh till that it is not suitable for daily drive, therefore I'm asking anyone here especially those who own one whether it is really true of the A250 being that stiff.

Different folks have different views of what a hot hatch is and looks is always a subjective matter. To some, having the power makes all the difference (e.g. a modded A250 with a piggyback and exhaust mod dynos at 219ps at the wheel and a stock GTI Mk7 dynos at 217ps at the wheel, both using the same dyno).

Buying a hot hatch for "looks" alone is a bit of a joke, isn't it?

I think you should first understand what does "hot hatch" means, and why it exist in the first place.

If the R was compared, it wouldn't be a comparison anymore. It would be a humiliation as the performance difference gap is way too huge. R should be compared to the A45 but the price A45 is asking almost makes it a joke to compare with an R.

I am starting to confuse myself here.

This post has been edited by dtna7: Aug 1 2014, 06:39 PM

Mercedes interior look more classy.

This post has been edited by estage9: Aug 1 2014, 06:51 PM

Those looking for the fastest way around a corner will appreciate the likes of GTi / Megane / Fofo ST at that price point.

The A250 caters more to those who thinks "why would I spend RM220k on a VW when I can get a Merc?" and is not particular about track times, but like to have a good looking and luxurious small car to get around.

Not to say the A250 is not capable, just that the badge means it appeals to a mostly different crowd than the VW.

Not so long ago there was a tered where the TS was complaining about the A250's stiff suspension? He certainly wasn't looking for a powerful ride, and seems to have been misled by his SA because he tested the A200 and liked it.

Voted for Vw becus of comfort and performance.

All things to consider, just get a Merc lar.

VW badge does not worth SI much.

Last week, one SA from Hap Seng Star whatsapp me that the waiting period has been reduced to 1 month.

Merc A250 interior like copycat the GTI, red stitching and all. But want bungkus the GTI not so easy lah, VW own this hot hatch category for decades already

Being an owner of the mk7 gti(with tech pack) and having considered and tested both cars, I would go for the gti... No regrets on my purchase! I've never enjoyed driving this much and pretty smile all the time behind the wheel.

This post has been edited by LaminatedButterfly: Aug 1 2014, 09:34 PM

Tested both, if you are the type always eat very full or you like to talk in the car or always have passenger with boobs or spare tire, don't get the A250.
Joke aside, A250 is a fun car to drive on track or driven fast on twisty road. golf gti is more practical day to day car that can be driven fast also. My 2 kupang.

a250 is just a luxury look

Golf gti for real performance

I think the poll results speaks louder here. Performance is not always the absolute need, not to mention the A250 is not exactly losing out by a large margin. Talking about ride comfort, the GTI is not exactly soft either

Today saw a fat 40s auntie fetching some kids riding in her Golf... thumbs up to her. good pick on her choice She looks really good in it, like the car is made for her or the other way round, she was meant for the car...I mean the car is good unisex car.

Last few days saw a white Megane renault RS zoomed pass me...it looks pretty solid, planted and 'wide' and fierce at the same time ...what a sight to behold...the sound is nice...

I think better Golf R vs A250...

As much as I really like the Golf, but I'm not all that hardcore performance person...if after test drive both and you can live with A250 stiff ride, dont mind going with the A250. I everyday stiff ride anyway

Sometime it's not about the image u want to give to other ppl that u ride a MB or that u want to show that you have 'succeeded' in life, that's shallow...sometime the gratification is u give urself...ride a MB is for the holistic package...personal fulfillment and the upclass service, perhaps even network and among other things...is beyond what u want to project to other ppl...partly, some ppl drive what they like to reflect their 'taste' aka exterior design to other ppl...

the A250 is rare at least at here and the exterior really macho to an extent, doesnt matter if it loses out on performance alittle bit...not a hardcore enthusiast...and the interior oozes class, i love it, quote icona pop



This post has been edited by wayfeel: Aug 1 2014, 11:12 PM

The A250 and A45 was created by MB to enter the hot hatch category. What do you expect

Clearly you haven't sat in one before. The difference between a car like A250 with the GTi is like night and day. Are you even aware that the GTi comes with adaptive suspension that has Comfort mode to make the car soft and comfy?

Gawd, this forum is getting worst by the years.

The DCC so called comfort mode is not even soft to begin with. And yes, the two car is different other than their price tag. Just that most will prefer the A250 more, just like the poll results shown. Tried the GTI with the tech package, it does not worth the money... especially with such lousy local VW reputation.

And my friend, please do not always pinpoint people never try sit on or own a particular car before. My previous posts prove that I had tried various makes before & one do not need to boast about it to make an opinion here. You are entitled for your own opinion, so do I

I could care less about your opinion, as they are shallow. It's the utter nonsense spouted here (and claimed as fact) that is an eye sore. If you have "tried or tested" them, I suggest next time you do it with an open heart and open all your senses to really feel the difference of the cars. As clearly, you're "tried" have garnered little to none as a result.

Never expected such a rude reply from you & it clearly shows immaturity. Who are you to call someone shallow & saying nonsense here? Who are you to judge? And not to mention it is you who quoted my reply first and foremost. All my points are valid and factual, as one can find by visiting a VW club forum online and can get all the info about DCC performance in real life. In addition, the poll results here showing the favored car among the two is A FACT! There is no point replying further to someone disrespecting another member replying in a thread as this is not the kopitiam section.

This post has been edited by deeplyheartbroken: Aug 2 2014, 01:20 AM

You tested both on the track?

What do u expect from a fan boy? To compare a vw with a three pointed star ? Joke! Just imagine F1! Do I see vw?

http://www.crankandpiston.com/on-the-road/...ort-white-heat/
TS,
Here's a decent comparison article for your reference.

Cheers!

Wow...i just had a good laugh.

An online poll voted in a forum participated majority by people who never own/drives the cars being put up makes the result FACT

If the brand of the car you are buying does not participates in F1 it automatically makes it inferior to other that does. And I am being labelled a fan boy instead? How ironic.

Sick of arguing monumental "facts" with kids here. Im outta here for good.

This post has been edited by dtna7: Aug 2 2014, 08:18 AM

the problem with the poll results is that its mostly 17 year olds who have never even driven the cars...just "merc is always better"

Bro, gotta agree with ya. I LOLed at the comments too 😁

This post has been edited by LaminatedButterfly: Aug 2 2014, 09:21 AM

err...

BMW is not in F1 - M3/M4/M6
Nissan is not in F1 - GTR
Porsche is not in F1 - 911/cayman/boxster
Subaru is not in F1 - Wrx STI

I would take the GTI over the A250 anyday

Also not in F1 hehe.. Sorry tumpang
Lambo- Huracan/Aventador/Sesto Elemento
Audi- RS5/R8
Honda(soon to be back)- NSX(that burned at the ring), Type R
Lexus/Toyota- LFA
Jaguar- F Type

The problem is a lot of them are unaware of other forms of Motorsport. Wonder who's leading the WRC at the moment.. Hmmm..

This post has been edited by LaminatedButterfly: Aug 2 2014, 09:36 AM

Oh please... why are you guys even replying in this thread if LYN FnF is for kids. And what is the point for a poll function in forums? LYN is the biggest online community in Malaysia, not biggest kids' community in Malaysia. And please do give a FACT & prove now that most LYN FnF users do not own or drive a car. Sick of these name callings & accuse of others not owning this car & that car... now you are a kid & I'm an adult, what is next? I am a king & you are a slave?

And heck, nobody is even saying the GTI is a bad car. Just that with the speed performance (even so a small margin) aside, it loses to the A250. However with such maturity level in your replies, only kids reply this way when they lose in a debate.

We have no prove and fact for that. And let's say there is a margin of error of 15%, still the poll results favored the A250.

I do agree with u bro. I guess for those that have not tried it on themselves, they wouldn't know.

I had some experience myself but let's stop at saying my opinion is only my opinion. If people do not agree, so be it

Since when FNF became a kiddos' sub forum?

Both are great cars, why argue about it? The VW does not completes the MB and vice versa.

By the way I agree on everyone is entitled for their own opinion. Don't force it to someone if you don't agree with it.

That is most probably 1 unit that the previous client booked has gotten his/her loan rejected.

just because the poll results favour a certain car doesnt mean its a better car. If we based cars on poll results or number of buyers, then Vious is the best car in Malaysia.

Theres nothing wrong with liking the A250 more, or the GTI more...but you cant say "See..Poll supports my choice..its FACT!"

go for merc

Well just buy whatever car that will make you smile when you drive it

We all post in Malaysia biggest online forum with a polling thread, the result is indeed factual. What is the problem with that? Yea you can argue its accuracy but think again, what kind of accuracy and what do you expect from a poll asking the members who prefer which car more? It is just preference of oneself, and for this case the A250 has the upper hand.

Nobody is saying A250 is better than GTI in all aspects and rule the world. On the other hand, name calling, degrading one's opinion in the poll and forcing others to accept his/her preference is way worse in nature. Everybody is entitled for their opinion in such a thread.

This post has been edited by deeplyheartbroken: Aug 2 2014, 02:19 PM

What if a poll.
proton vs merc
Then a lot people will vote for merc.
Does merc good?

Come on, everyone has own mind to choose his own. Don't you?

I have and the A250 is way behind the Golf GTI Mk7 in terms of timing (stock vs stock). But again track performance is not something a lot of people consider when buying cars (maybe for the hard core folks). It doesn't take a genius to know that the GTI will go faster than the A250 around Sepang because the GTI has more power on wheel and the car is lighter than the A250.

I still prefer the looks of the A250 over the Golf GTI.

This post has been edited by Mavik: Aug 2 2014, 06:34 PM

ya, very true. each car has own advantages and especially in the look appeal department...most important is what you want.

the GTI is a better performance all rounder than A250 and better daily comfort ride (I dont have to own both to know lol) ...but I dont really like Gti MK6 n mk7 design save for mk5, garang looking but shape stil slightly submissive for me...

I buy car based very much on looks, -yes very shallow- but I look at it everyday, so...
and partly A250 interior way better to me.

The incentive part for me is the branding association and anything that goes with it i.e service, perhps coffee lady lol (not necessarily the MB status, ie. I dont like BMW), provided u can sit on a firmer ride everyday, take the A250 it's ok.

just like daily ride is integra, evo, subaru is acceptable then go ahead.
integra less power, better FC for Evo power but high FC.
If comfort is priority, then the Gti but I wouldnt sacrifice the striking A250 looks for Gti comfort. Else, get a Lexus IS350 F sport that got comfort and look but weaker on power

The examples are endless. life is about compromise. there is no perfect package. Dont let ppl determine your taste otherwise u got no taste

This post has been edited by wayfeel: Aug 2 2014, 09:06 PM

Mind to disclose performance figure of both A250 and Golf GTI?(If have onboard footage lagi )
Do you test it at Sepang full track??
Curious to know

ride definately more stiff but if you want to go for brand and image
definately its the mercedes but overall a better track c ar would be a golf gti

Actually all in all, I think the best is TS go test drive it himself. If i have the money rm2xxK I wont be wasting time here asking this kind of question. If i have d brain to have rm2xxk, im sure I'm the Kind of person who is clear of what I wan especially in a car, surely is smarter than majority lol and already testdrive both cars umpteen time.
Secondly, every one have different tolerance. Once u warm up to the cars, your heart clearly know what it wants ady..

Edit: Once testdrove, baru la open this thread discussing ur limbo of which to get . Imo, Thread input is 20-40% of your decision making

This post has been edited by wayfeel: Aug 3 2014, 03:34 PM

The bolded part, pretty much.

This post has been edited by dares: Aug 3 2014, 05:01 PM

The comfort of A250 is good enough, but don't compare to C Class. Compare to A200, A200 stiffer due to it's run-flat tyre... On paper, the performance between A250 and GTI more or less same. But GTI more aggressive, A250 softer...

I definitely go for merc A250

If Mercedes really want to use the A250 to compete with the Golf GTi, will still think that the selling price will close to the Golf GTi?? At least the price will well above RM300k. Mercedes never intend to compete with GTi, that's why the output power is lower.

Well said
Personally, I like A250 more. Why?
Performance wise, GTi definitely better.
Look wise, A250 better.

I'm just guessing la....i think the A250 is made to really compete with the gti, in fact, is to fill the segment that MB didnt have. VW popularize that segment with its Gti so MB wants to chip in a share as well hehe...

The price i think is to make Gti a runs for its money....the MB brand itself is worth 300k above d, so why price the A250 so affordably 200k ish? so can stray some ppl away from Gti, clearly to compete with Gti...also by using relatively less quality mterial in its A250.

Just personal opinion...

2xxk get a new 2015 WRX lo...boot can smuggle two sweet young thing from thailand across the border...

A250 will be much easier to maintain

while GTi will be a more complete package, value for the price you paid

Golf R?

i dunno if can add other car within same class to discussion but im going to leave this here

well a3 sedan 1.8L quattro would be a good choice
IF it's around 230k range

Why no Suprimak?

If car prices were to come down (potong AP and excise/import tax) would the badge factor be as important? Macam markets like Australia and US?

if we manage to change government first

this gomen good, eveyone has job, house to live, food to eat, clothes to wear, whay change. We must be feel grateful. If sept rumors r true, 30cents increase in fuel will Further spur the economy.





This post has been edited by wayfeel: Aug 5 2014, 01:04 AM

A250....wait for 6-9 months..thats crazy

Oh no ....don't be blind folded by their dirty tricks !!

I am utterly disappointed with your statement above.

I think the G would love more rakyat like you, so they can continue to house their lembu in $250m condo, cuti sambil belajar in fabulous destination with your hard earn taxed money while you cuti locally in taman negara only and buy $224/set screwdriver to screw you totally....the list goes on and on and on

Juz don't understand, some people are juz so happy to be screwed by their beloved G
Malaysia, Truly Asia

haha....gotcha!

If our G is good, proton already reach international level. And we here also could buy either A250 of Golf Gti at more affordable prices.

I waited 8 months for mine .

Put it this way, the golf gti is a very very very very good car!.

But at that price range, i dont mind to sacrifice abit of the driving experience for a much better looking car and a better badge!

a250 hands down !

who would want a vw any more when you have a choice of 3 point star.

p/s: the wait for merc is worth it. vw after-sale service is not.

This post has been edited by 0cto9i: Aug 19 2014, 02:27 PM

ambik kereta serupa kereta Ray Donovan.

always go for luxury...
VW was classify as lower grade of Audi
just like Toyata is a lower grade of LEXUS

Consider fast lo... CLA already 10months ++ waiting period...
AMG A45 lagi teruk... 15months maybe...

Check dis out... really good deal.

Lots of relevant competitors shud be worrying... its a micidis sourced turbo engine.

Paultan review on Infiniti Q50


This post has been edited by SWIZZ: Aug 19 2014, 03:26 PM

is from china right? U like? I remember this car got 5 stars on safety

This tuning is for camera? looks advance enuff


This post has been edited by taitianhin: Aug 19 2014, 05:37 PM