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 4 Critical Signs of a Bubble Market V8, DDD finally won. Page 42 onwards.

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post Jul 31 2014, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jul 31 2014, 12:19 PM)
look at hong kong flip tax and stamp duty

sipeh pain.. 20 million property= 2.6 million tax..

direct conversion 10 million MYR= 1.3 million MRY, flippers will go crazy..
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U always makes funny calculation or comparison.... doh.gif doh.gif
Dishwasher in HK can earn HKD15,000.00, earning a lot more than any graduate in Msia..... How to compare? doh.gif doh.gif
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post Jul 31 2014, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Jul 31 2014, 12:43 PM)
Now only dumb asx spent 2K on smart phone, why spend 2K when u can get china brand at 1/3 of the price, same specs  thumbup.gif

U see Huawei, Lennovo, Xiaomi is breathing behind Samsung/apple neck.  whistling.gif
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Those who buy those cina brand also dumb mah..... they need to change 3 phone while those samsung/apple user still using the same phone..... end up also same price as one samsung/apple, but adding additional work/trouble to transfer data/photo and etc.... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Always think they r smart in their narrow and short sighted view..... doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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post Aug 1 2014, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Jul 31 2014, 05:48 PM)
When got people keep phone for long long time, lu buy 2K phone thru 24months contract bayar ansuran, stucked with the phone for 2 years... laugh.gif

I can afford to buy cash coz 1/3 of your price, ur S4 still using snapdragon 600, by next year i use snapdragon 805 already...  laugh.gif

Like u spent 2 millions buy one luxury condo, damn susah to flip, while i gasap 4 units 500K condo si beh senang to flip...wkakakaka
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Wonder hav u taken any IQ test? If u hav not, suggest u dont ever take it....... Result could depress u yoh..... laugh.gif tongue.gif
One jus need a little bit of IQ or common sense will kno tat no way a phone can make any comparison with a prop..... laugh.gif
And u jus need a little bit more knowledge, a phone and contract is 2 seperate issue.... u keep 2 yr contract doesnt mean u need to keep the phone for 2 yr..... whistling.gif
Again with a little bit of IQ and common sense, one will not go for the latest tech phone product especially as those small company/brand dont spend much on R&D....... as the "latest tech" product will not be stable yet and worst u pay a high price for it to be their "white mouse"...... laugh.gif
Whereas for prop...... There is only 2 reason why ppl dont buy 2M prop to flip but buy 4x 500K prop to flip for the same profit return outcome....
1. Financial stability.... it means one do not hav the strong financial to back up if the investment fail, tats why they cannot put all egg in one basket. tongue.gif
2. Weaker foresight.... it means u do not hav the foresight to judge what is good, what is bad, what has great potential and etc....... In short, lack of courage or guts.... tongue.gif
Anyway.... remember dont go for IQ test ya.... it will depress u..... tongue.gif
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post Aug 1 2014, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Aug 1 2014, 12:56 PM)
U need EQ test  whistling.gif
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Wow..... U kno what is EQ ah?? laugh.gif laugh.gif
Whatever Q u also better dont take la...... it will bring down your self confident.... Stay at what u are now is better..... At least u still can proudly say u dont believe those test "without lying"...... laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Aug 10 2014, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 9 2014, 10:01 PM)
These dreamers are more likely ended up in loan default, npl and auction.
Provided they can find enough suiyi to take burden off from them.
At current land price, it is not viable to set up factory for export. Most local factories are SME for local consumption or office cum warehouse.
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U kno in history who are those biggest suiyi or always bought at the highest peak? Ppl who thinks they timed the market well...... Chances u r going to be one of them.....
Market sentiments now may not be good or negative, so u wait as think market will be going down...
However when market didn't go down much and market sentiment starts to turns good, which will also definitely change your view on market (don't tell me u won't since your decision depends so highly on market sentiment)..... Therefore u will be purchasing at the highest peak by then....... LOL
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post Aug 10 2014, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 10 2014, 09:21 AM)
Typical of uuu/BBB herd.
If money could be made so easily like what dreamers believe, no one will need a day job.

Historically in all bull runs, except those exited the market, all punters/flippers end up worst off than the beginning. As most bought property with high leverage, many will ended up with auction and bankruptcy.
Guess you are talking about yourself or your family.
Unless you admitted is a mistake, you have to justify your decision.
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Typical nerd......
U don't need a day job, where do u find capital to invest? Money drop sky? doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
Investing in prop gives u monthly return immediately without start up capital and u don't need money to roll? notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Aug 10 2014, 10:37 AM)
Contradiction. Last time when uuu mentioned keep units vacant ddd curse those who keeping vacant units to die of installments.

Now u Pulak say so n accused me looking down on somebody???
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DDD invest with lotsa extra cash wan....... Their investment is very long term...... They don't flip........ So what they do is all correct....... What those BBB are unethical ppl....... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
No wonder u wants to registered yourself into DDD la...... tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Aug 10 2014, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 10 2014, 12:28 PM)
All bull run will end with a crash, this property bull run is no exception. Only herd members chasing after rising price, hence price bull run.If not buying for ownstay I.e for investment, it won't be too late to buy after it crashed .
Isn't flipping with low entry cost, dibs and quick 200k profit  upon vp or price double in 3 years, money drop from sky?
Property overhang is a certainty but price take years to drop.
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doh.gif doh.gif same old question again la..... When can it crash?
Low entry cost doesn't means "No cost"...... So where to find that low entry cost? And........ If u don't hav stable income bank gonna finance u the 90% or 70%? doh.gif doh.gif
So need to work for money first or not? Using hard earn money to invest is call money drop from sky? And it takes 3 yr to profit, between the 3 yr eat grass ah? doh.gif doh.gif
U really tak cheh tak kah siao liao....... laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Aug 10 2014, 07:26 PM)
But how to exit if die die no enter. hmm.gif
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Then market may hav "short selling" first before buying prop? hmm.gif hmm.gif

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 10 2014, 07:19 PM)
The fascinating part is many flippers still buy these future price property especially from well known developers.
It is not hard to make 200k from any bull run but it is hard to know when to exit. Historically, those didn't leave in time ended up worst off than the beginning.
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Hav u done it before? If no, then u r in no position to say tat woh...... whistling.gif whistling.gif
Can trust one who never sky dive before telling u sky dive is easy?....... Tat will be jumping to death right?..... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 10 2014, 06:41 PM)
Bull run always end earlier than expected.

How much effort or work flippers put in for 200k profit gain upon VP?
Long term economic equilibrium will always prevail.
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Hav I been chatting with a programmed answering machine...... hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif

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QUOTE(CK15 @ Aug 10 2014, 06:47 PM)
Bear2, I didn't said price up every yr wor! I just say making Rm200k from property investment is not hard regardless lu song bei song, buy or not buy!
U r right. Price too high and over value, less people buy, but still got peoples buy with their own reasons using their own assessment methods, lu bei song bo pian lor! I'm same as u, no trans for 2 yrs lor!
Also, my unit will not in the market for u. My kids are lucky to own it after I sell ham-tan.
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He not bei song........ It's si bei si bei bei song....... tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 10 2014, 07:54 PM)
So one needs to be a footballer to talk about world cup, a mp to talk politics, a racer to talk about car, a lawyer to laws, a priest to talk religion, etc?
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Of course anybody can talk..... Tats wat most ppl do these days...... Talk without experience, talk without taking responsibility, freedom of speech mah........ Jus like asking high pay without experience or proving anything lor........ whistling.gif whistling.gif
Talk rubbish lor........ laugh.gif laugh.gif
Anyway here is kopitiam...... U can talk anything u wants..... And so do I ya....... tongue.gif tongue.gif

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QUOTE(zuiko407 @ Aug 15 2014, 12:17 AM)
After I read the way he invest, I also chi 9 lan sin
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post Aug 15 2014, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 15 2014, 09:49 AM)
Herd members can't be influenced by outsider except fellow herd member.
Still student mah.
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U never present yourself as student here leh..... u try to be a lecturer of economy here all these while in here as i sees...... sweat.gif sweat.gif
If u behave like a student, show your keeness to learn.... I'm sure u will never kana bomb...... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Aug 15 2014, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 15 2014, 10:24 AM)
I didn't join the last property frenzy, how to qualify be a herd member?
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Then all your comments all these while also disqualify lor?? brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 15 2014, 10:56 AM)
Well, if I like the property, then I buy lor. If crash, the property I want and in the same location not selling, crash also no point right?
I've been targeting this place and seldom people sell. When someone selling at good price, I just bought lor.

If next year crash, then I mah buy something else lor.

Buying property is very personal.

I tell people next year crash is based on statistic.

I don't just say property UUU because I just bought a property. That is misleading. When all points to property crash but you still tell people its UUU, then you have morality problem.  doh.gif
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U must be here to replace the missing Banana man.......
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Aug 15 2014, 12:10 PM)
Like he go to a badminton forum and comment about rackets, but he never play badminton one..... tongue.gif
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The answering machine will tell u...... Only politician can talk politic? Only footballer can talk soccer? etc.... tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 15 2014, 11:54 AM)
Why you resorting to posting funny picture? If you're real UUU, then show us the statistic that property price is going to go up again in 2015.  icon_idea.gif
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If your strategy is to buy every yr........ why bother so much abt uuu or ddd?? doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(jolokia @ Aug 15 2014, 04:14 PM)
Lost job no income for few year can survive ? business bankrup hutang 30 millions can survive ? keep extra how much extra ?? all dreamer talk..  cool2.gif
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This curious me very much too..... In the past yrs when taking interview, i'm surprise to see there are so many ppl can survive without working for 2-3yrs..... sweat.gif sweat.gif
Anyway.... i always allow them continue their dream.... never employ this group..... tongue.gif tongue.gif

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