i hate metal roof decks

1. it looks cheap
2. it's noisy as hell if it rains (even if you put 4" noise insulating layer)
3. did i mention it looks ugly?




but you got it all right. you're quite experienced i see. yes, you can save lots of money for materials since you use less materials for the trussess / purlins

u certainly heard wrong

poor quality plaster ceiling is not good

high quality plaster ceiling is good

likewise, the same can be said for everything in the world

kochin: Fantastic! Thank you chief!

1) Definitely going with LWS.

2) The cement tiles are my concern now. What would my drawback be if I go with epoxy paint the existing cement tiles?

3) Im trying to avoid metal roof purely due to the amount of noise it makes when it rains unless i have been ill advised on some sound proofing that could be done. Could you explain some pro's and cons here compared to epoxy painting current tiles?

4) Agree with you on the Plaster ceiling, ill need to get that clarified myself.

5) Also on the profile to maximize truss spacing and batten spacing. How would I know which would be ideal for my roof design? You lost me here chief!

Lucifah:

I dont have the exact drawings but the area it covers is well within 1900sqft chief.

Yea i just dont want it to be too noise if i go with metal roof. Nevertheless im quite determine to salvage my current cement roof hence im trying to know if this epoxy paint would actually last long.

LWS without plaster ceiling will definitely look like a space station But the Option B given was their solution to my argument on its looks. Which does not require me to Plaster the porch ceiling.

Any thoughts on it?

from my experience, salvaging the concrete roof tiles will cause in breakages. allow for at least 10% breakage

the problem now is to find concrete tiles with the EXACT size & profiles

u can usually find the brand name for the concrete tile maker on the underside. try to find the tiles first before you decide on reusing it

as for option A or Option B, i can't help you decide unless i'm on site.

for the sound n heat insulation you can buy the aluminium foil on your own and ask your contractor to install since they already want to setup your new roof. You can try this. The price is quite cheap for quality product plus got bubble 1 side or 2 sided. Still can nego if you buy more than 2 rolls

http://www.mudah.my/Rock+wool+insulation+d...il-27658123.htm

looks cheap? hahaha. i did caution on acceptance of metal roof by its users. but do you know that most iconic buildings uses metal roof? try sydney opera house.
if you like the conc roof tiles so much, use the next best thing. imitation. lol.
https://www.google.com/search?q=famous+meta...F%3B2743%3B1822
ok jokes aside, do you know that metal roof, if done with proper insulation for noise and thermal, it is actually cooler and more quiet compared to conc roof tiles.
it's a fact.
but i can understand where you coming from. most malaysians have the same stigma.

epoxy is a layer of coating. works very well under normal duress but... a big BUT! when movement occurs, you can kiss your epoxy goodbye. epoxy have a very low tolerance of movement. i forgot whether it's 0.2mm or 2mm. eitherway, once you conc roof tiles starts moving due to heat expansion or simply cracks in your roof tiles, or cats or mice starts taking a stroll on your roof, you might experience problems liao. not trying to scare you but i did say might.
most importantly, concr roof tiles have been around for ages. it's a proven system. it's cheap and durable. but the trick is getting a seasoned and experienced roofer to do the installation.
my aunt renovated her house and omg, leakage like nobody business.
so pls make sure your roofer is experienced, else it doesn't matter what option you take but problems are almost guaranteed.

don't listen to me.
get the experts.
get a monier or la farge sales guy to explain to you the wonders of conc roof tiles.
then get a asim, lysaght or whatever roofing metal deck guy to explain to you wonders of metal deck.

as i have clarified, tests have indeed shown that metal deck (with proper treatment) yields better thermal and noise insulation compared to roof tiles.

lastly, different roofing profiles requires different spacing of both truss and purlins/battens.
for instance, the metal deck comes in a raw form of certain width.
it is 'rolled' or stamped into different profiles.
some profiles are heavier and require closer spacing of truss. some are lighter.
eg. for bhp's product, spandek is good and reliable but fugly. hr29 is a big no no due to it's soft profile and prone to damages by installers. mewah tiles are the exact replica of roof tiles if you still want to look the same. klip lock is good but highly industrial look. if i'm not mistaken, i have trimdek on my extensions. i dont know because it was done by someone else.

good luck boss!

i agree whole hearted with you, provided that the building design is modern type

if it's just the typical house design, metal roof deckings will not make it look any nicer

as for the thermal and acoustic insulation, i also agree with you. but, most of my clients never understand why we quote very high for the insulation layers. they say not necessary.

R50 thermal insulations are expensive, and so does acoustic ones. used properly, they provide superior thermal and acoustic insulations


but for me, i will always prefer the newest material now - recycled vulcanised rubber mats tiles (that looks like roof shingles) and really look nice

Not sure about that, But should not be double up the prize, should be lower then double.

Rm2500 just baiting system only? Not include drilling? I will suggest to do the drilling too as termite normally come from the ground.

Rm700 just for checking is too much for me, I can just check by myself from time to time. Just look at any trace of mud from all the wooden structure and call Rentokil to treat it if found any. Touch wood so far didn't see any sign of termite after the first treatment.

I do keep the contact of Rentokil who done the job for me, pm me if you need it.

Hi sifu,

I was given quotation for a roof tiles job for backyard house where i plan to do cooking. No extension kitchen will be done.

1 Mild Steel Awning with Roof Tiles 176 sf 32.00 5,632.00

Size : 22' x (7' + 1')

2 Mild Steel Awning without Roof Tiles 176 sf 26.00 4,576.00

(workmanship only)

Size : 22' x (7' + 1')

I was advised the roof tiles will be used is GCI Eagle.

Is it worth the money we pay for?

And, any disadvantage from this tiles?

Yea thats what the contractor mentioned as well. Im keeping my fingers cross tat they dont damage much! But ill have to source out additional tiles as backup as well.

Thanks chief!

Goodness me! Brother Kochin im worshipping you from now!

I think as you have mentioned, it all depends how experienced the installer is. Im keeping my fingers cross on it and hope this guy does a good job. Ill post pictures as the work takes place.

As for the metal or concrete roof.. *confused as a duck on which one to settle for..

aiyah... sharing is caring lah.
i only share what my limited knowledge is on the subject.
please ask the experts.

if i were you, i would opt for metal but with proper insulation.
not so much on cost savings but more on safety.
i hate the fact thieves can very easily get into any landed residential via the roof.
good luck!

Two thumbs up!

on the same note, how does clay tiles compare (for tropical weather) to metal and cement tiles yea? Any idea how long would it last?

whoa RM15 per sqft.. is that the standard pricing for vulcanized rubber tiles?

that one is just the rubber tiles

not yet include installation

if you use this, you need a layer of metal sheet to act as water barrier

which explains why you don't see this on many homes - just the high end ones

Plaster ceiling : He charging me RM3.10 /sqft..