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lucifah
post Jul 21 2014, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(Advocatedonn @ Jul 21 2014, 11:10 AM)
Hi Sifus!

Need your expert opinion on the following quote guys! I would truly appreciate any kind of help.



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u didn't give any size or measurements at all


lucifah
post Jul 21 2014, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Jul 21 2014, 04:06 PM)
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without going into too much details, i would suggest the following:
1. go for LWS
2. do up an option of using metal roof instead of recycling your existing roof tiles or epoxy painting over it

why?
your big ticket items are mainly the steel roof truss (RM14k) and supply and install of conc roof tiles (RM8k). RM22k/RM42k.
and plaster ceiling @ RM10k for just approx 1,900sf? that's about RM5.25psf!!!
negotiate for lower price of your plaster ceiling. that's a little absurd!

magic of metal deck roofing.
1. less joints as metal deck are large panel and if custom length, means no joint except at apex. less chance of leakages. less joints also mean no chance of thieves entering. do you know some roofing profiles does not even require any nailings? they use clips to interlock!
2. metal is lighter, hence, you would be able to re-space your LWS spacing to be much less. dependent on profile selected, you may be looking at truss spacing of up to 2m. battens can varies up to 1.2m instead. so expect your RM14k to be greatly reduced.
3. bigger roofing piece means less work. hence installation cost would also reduce. RM8k going down.

things to watch out for:
1. some people dont like the metal look
2. you need to add rockwool for thermal resistant and noise resistant
3. select profile to maximise your truss spacing and batten spacing. this would give you huge cost saving.

good luck!
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i hate metal roof decks

1. it looks cheap
2. it's noisy as hell if it rains (even if you put 4" noise insulating layer)
3. did i mention it looks ugly?

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but you got it all right. you're quite experienced i see. yes, you can save lots of money for materials since you use less materials for the trussess / purlins
lucifah
post Jul 21 2014, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jul 21 2014, 11:43 AM)
good thread.

By the way, I think I got quoted the same as yours. Around RM50k.

Do you think this will last like forever?

I heard plaster ceiling is not good.
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u certainly heard wrong

poor quality plaster ceiling is not good

high quality plaster ceiling is good

likewise, the same can be said for everything in the world wink.gif
lucifah
post Jul 21 2014, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(Advocatedonn @ Jul 21 2014, 04:38 PM)
Yea i just dont want it to be too noise if i go with metal roof. Nevertheless im quite determine to salvage my current cement roof hence im trying to know if this epoxy paint would actually last long.

LWS without plaster ceiling will definitely look like a space station smile.gif But the Option B given was their solution to my argument on its looks. Which does not require me to Plaster the porch ceiling.

Any thoughts on it?
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from my experience, salvaging the concrete roof tiles will cause in breakages. allow for at least 10% breakage

the problem now is to find concrete tiles with the EXACT size & profiles

u can usually find the brand name for the concrete tile maker on the underside. try to find the tiles first before you decide on reusing it

as for option A or Option B, i can't help you decide unless i'm on site.
lucifah
post Jul 22 2014, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Jul 22 2014, 09:55 AM)
looks cheap? hahaha. i did caution on acceptance of metal roof by its users. but do you know that most iconic buildings uses metal roof? try sydney opera house.
if you like the conc roof tiles so much, use the next best thing. imitation. lol.
https://www.google.com/search?q=famous+meta...F%3B2743%3B1822
ok jokes aside, do you know that metal roof, if done with proper insulation for noise and thermal, it is actually cooler and more quiet compared to conc roof tiles.
it's a fact.
but i can understand where you coming from. most malaysians have the same stigma.

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i agree whole hearted with you, provided that the building design is modern type

if it's just the typical house design, metal roof deckings will not make it look any nicer

as for the thermal and acoustic insulation, i also agree with you. but, most of my clients never understand why we quote very high for the insulation layers. they say not necessary.

R50 thermal insulations are expensive, and so does acoustic ones. used properly, they provide superior thermal and acoustic insulations


but for me, i will always prefer the newest material now - recycled vulcanised rubber mats tiles (that looks like roof shingles) and really look nice

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post Jul 23 2014, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(Advocatedonn @ Jul 23 2014, 11:43 AM)
whoa RM15 per sqft.. is that the standard pricing for vulcanized rubber tiles?
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that one is just the rubber tiles

not yet include installation

if you use this, you need a layer of metal sheet to act as water barrier

which explains why you don't see this on many homes - just the high end ones


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post Sep 14 2015, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 14 2015, 12:07 AM)
i didnt know you are also a roofing contractor.. biggrin.gif  apart from selling undergarments. shocking.gif

anyway looking at low pitch roof solutions now.. sweat.gif
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woot... 2014 post worh

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